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(03-21-2018 01:35 PM)TubaCat Wrote:  

(03-21-2018 01:15 PM)jarr Wrote:  Has Mick ever been considered for any other jobs, that were seen as a stepup? I'm not counting UNLV, because that was a step down IMO, and I think that was more a power move than anything.

The rumor is that Pitt is currently offering Hurley over $3 million/year. If Hurley decides to go to UConn, I think that Mick would become a very appealing choice to put out the dumpster fire at Pitt.

Would they offer Mick over $3 million/year?
And if they do, would we make a counter offer?

I don't know if we can afford to, considering that Mick's performance here hasn't yet justified that sort of salary.

After Pitt's foray into slow-defense driven basketball with an over-excitable coach who doesn't recruit at a high level...I'm guessing that they probably wouldn't run at Mick

(03-21-2018 02:04 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(03-21-2018 01:35 PM)TubaCat Wrote:  

(03-21-2018 01:15 PM)jarr Wrote:  Has Mick ever been considered for any other jobs, that were seen as a stepup? I'm not counting UNLV, because that was a step down IMO, and I think that was more a power move than anything.

The rumor is that Pitt is currently offering Hurley over $3 million/year. If Hurley decides to go to UConn, I think that Mick would become a very appealing choice to put out the dumpster fire at Pitt.

Would they offer Mick over $3 million/year?
And if they do, would we make a counter offer?

I don't know if we can afford to, considering that Mick's performance here hasn't yet justified that sort of salary.

After Pitt's foray into slow-defense driven basketball with an over-excitable coach who doesn't recruit at a high level...I'm guessing that they probably wouldn't run at Mick

True!

(03-21-2018 01:57 PM)Marcus Wrote:  I've heard Pitt's AD has an absolutely horrible reputation among coaches and is extremely difficult to work for. I guess a lot of $$ can make those issues go away quickly for a potential candidate, but I'm not sure that is a place coaches are going to be clamoring to go work at.

Interesting. Maybe the AD has one foot on the banana peel right now too? Or Pitt's president is clueless about all things sports related as their program drops further into the abyss.

Well, here's a shoe dropping in Louisville; no surprise on this step...

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/...446547002/

(03-21-2018 01:35 PM)TubaCat Wrote:  

(03-21-2018 01:15 PM)jarr Wrote:  Has Mick ever been considered for any other jobs, that were seen as a stepup? I'm not counting UNLV, because that was a step down IMO, and I think that was more a power move than anything.

The rumor is that Pitt is currently offering Hurley over $3 million/year. If Hurley decides to go to UConn, I think that Mick would become a very appealing choice to put out the dumpster fire at Pitt.

Would they offer Mick over $3 million/year?
And if they do, would we make a counter offer?

I don't know if we can afford to, considering that Mick's performance here hasn't yet justified that sort of salary.

Read an article a few days ago that said Sean Miller would jump at the chance to coach Pitt. It could make a lot of sense for all 3 depending upon exactly what he did or didn't do illegally at U of A.

edit: Thought I'd do a quick search for it and this (among others) popped up:

PITT BASKETBALL SOURCES: SEAN MILLER INTERESTED IN RETURN TO PITT

But then this just came out an hour or two ago:

Arizona coach Sean Miller issues statement denying he is candidate for Pittsburgh vacancy

A couple of relevant tweets:

Let's assume that Chris Mack gets the Louisville job. Just for fun and to drive our friends on Victory Parkway crazy, we should circulate a rumor that La Salle grad Mick has been tapped to replace him and signed to a six year contract. Maybe begin with a revelation that there was a secret, private jet flight from Lunken to GCA (almost as absurd as flights back and forth between Cincy and Louisville, a ninety-minute drive).

Kill two birds with one stone? You decide.

Whomever gets that Pitt job has the true rebuild, no players, and no wins last year in conference. Wow, so much for going to the ACC.

Tay Baker got hired at XU after UC via GCL Elder so Mick to XU via GCL Lasalle makes sense.

(03-21-2018 05:32 PM)dsquare Wrote:  Whomever gets that Pitt job has the true rebuild, no players, and no wins last year in conference. Wow, so much for going to the ACC.

The idiots ran off Jamie Dixon. Has nothing to really do with going to the ACC.

(03-21-2018 05:32 PM)dsquare Wrote:  Whomever gets that Pitt job has the true rebuild, no players, and no wins last year in conference. Wow, so much for going to the ACC.

Only one less player than UC had on Mick's arrival, and in a conference which was basically almost as good then as the ACC is now.

(03-22-2018 06:03 AM)Ring of Black Wrote:  

(03-21-2018 05:32 PM)dsquare Wrote:  Whomever gets that Pitt job has the true rebuild, no players, and no wins last year in conference. Wow, so much for going to the ACC.

Only one less player than UC had on Mick's arrival, and in a conference which was basically almost as good then as the ACC is now.

Which is exactly why I think Mick should be an obvious target for them. He's proven that he can rebuild a totally destroyed program.

(03-22-2018 07:20 AM)TubaCat Wrote:  

(03-22-2018 06:03 AM)Ring of Black Wrote:  

(03-21-2018 05:32 PM)dsquare Wrote:  Whomever gets that Pitt job has the true rebuild, no players, and no wins last year in conference. Wow, so much for going to the ACC.

Only one less player than UC had on Mick's arrival, and in a conference which was basically almost as good then as the ACC is now.

Which is exactly why I think Mick should be an obvious target for them. He's proven that he can rebuild a totally destroyed program.

Zero chance Mick takes a full on rebuild for the rumored 3M a year Pitt is offering.

(03-22-2018 07:20 AM)TubaCat Wrote:  

(03-22-2018 06:03 AM)Ring of Black Wrote:  

(03-21-2018 05:32 PM)dsquare Wrote:  Whomever gets that Pitt job has the true rebuild, no players, and no wins last year in conference. Wow, so much for going to the ACC.

Only one less player than UC had on Mick's arrival, and in a conference which was basically almost as good then as the ACC is now.

Which is exactly why I think Mick should be an obvious target for them. He's proven that he can rebuild a totally destroyed program.

If Mick took the Pitt job, I think that could be a win win for all. I think he would do a nice job there and get them back to respectability, making the tournament and getting 6-8 seeds most years.

At that point we should go all in on Musselman. He is only getting paid $300K right now, and UC could seriously upgrade that salary. Even if he is only here for 4 or 5 years, he could do wonders here. He is an OH native, so this isnt foreign territory to him.

(03-22-2018 07:25 AM)jarr Wrote:  

(03-22-2018 07:20 AM)TubaCat Wrote:  

(03-22-2018 06:03 AM)Ring of Black Wrote:  

(03-21-2018 05:32 PM)dsquare Wrote:  Whomever gets that Pitt job has the true rebuild, no players, and no wins last year in conference. Wow, so much for going to the ACC.

Only one less player than UC had on Mick's arrival, and in a conference which was basically almost as good then as the ACC is now.

Which is exactly why I think Mick should be an obvious target for them. He's proven that he can rebuild a totally destroyed program.

If Mick took the Pitt job, I think that could be a win win for all. I think he would do a nice job there and get them back to respectability, making the tournament and getting 6-8 seeds most years.

At that point we should go all in on Musselman. He is only getting paid $300K right now, and UC could seriously upgrade that salary. Even if he is only here for 4 or 5 years, he could do wonders here. He is an OH native, so this isnt foreign territory to him.

His father was a phenomenal coach up at Ashland for many years before going into the pro ranks. Musselman would be a good hire, and not just because of the last weekend...the only thing I would be worried about is recruitment. All of his players are seemingly transfers, not many (if any) were pulled from high school.

(03-22-2018 07:43 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(03-22-2018 07:25 AM)jarr Wrote:  

(03-22-2018 07:20 AM)TubaCat Wrote:  

(03-22-2018 06:03 AM)Ring of Black Wrote:  

(03-21-2018 05:32 PM)dsquare Wrote:  Whomever gets that Pitt job has the true rebuild, no players, and no wins last year in conference. Wow, so much for going to the ACC.

Only one less player than UC had on Mick's arrival, and in a conference which was basically almost as good then as the ACC is now.

Which is exactly why I think Mick should be an obvious target for them. He's proven that he can rebuild a totally destroyed program.

If Mick took the Pitt job, I think that could be a win win for all. I think he would do a nice job there and get them back to respectability, making the tournament and getting 6-8 seeds most years.

At that point we should go all in on Musselman. He is only getting paid $300K right now, and UC could seriously upgrade that salary. Even if he is only here for 4 or 5 years, he could do wonders here. He is an OH native, so this isnt foreign territory to him.

His father was a phenomenal coach up at Ashland for many years before going into the pro ranks. Musselman would be a good hire, and not just because of the last weekend...the only thing I would be worried about is recruitment. All of his players are seemingly transfers, not many (if any) were pulled from high school.

Maybe he would be able to improve on that, as I imagine recruiting at UC would be much easier than Nevada.

(03-22-2018 07:49 AM)TubaCat Wrote:  

(03-22-2018 07:43 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(03-22-2018 07:25 AM)jarr Wrote:  

(03-22-2018 07:20 AM)TubaCat Wrote:  

(03-22-2018 06:03 AM)Ring of Black Wrote:  Only one less player than UC had on Mick's arrival, and in a conference which was basically almost as good then as the ACC is now.

Which is exactly why I think Mick should be an obvious target for them. He's proven that he can rebuild a totally destroyed program.

If Mick took the Pitt job, I think that could be a win win for all. I think he would do a nice job there and get them back to respectability, making the tournament and getting 6-8 seeds most years.

At that point we should go all in on Musselman. He is only getting paid $300K right now, and UC could seriously upgrade that salary. Even if he is only here for 4 or 5 years, he could do wonders here. He is an OH native, so this isnt foreign territory to him.

His father was a phenomenal coach up at Ashland for many years before going into the pro ranks. Musselman would be a good hire, and not just because of the last weekend...the only thing I would be worried about is recruitment. All of his players are seemingly transfers, not many (if any) were pulled from high school.

Maybe he would be able to improve on that, as I imagine recruiting at UC would be much easier than Nevada.

If somehow Mick took the Pitt or another job, Bohn needs to go all in on Musselman IMO. I am not sure if he is out of reach right now, but we could definitely upgrade his salary. There doesnt look to be many major.job openings this Spring, so he wont be getting many other offers. He would be a home run.

As for the transfers, I've always believed that in order to succeed at this job, taking in transfers should be a major part of your strategy. As well as JUCOs, prep players, ,international players, and establishing a local pipeline, so that you have at least a fighting chance with a local 4 or 5 *. Recruiting 2* and 3* HS players from Texas, Cali, and Florida is not as sustainable.

We aren't lucky enough for Mack to leave X. He's going to leverage the UL offer into a mega counter from X. Why would you want to leave the big east for UL right now? Right or wrong the BE is considered a top 3 bball conference, it is significantly easier to win the Big East than the ACC, great fans and half the pressure at X.

(03-22-2018 08:18 AM)DownOnRohs Wrote:  We aren't lucky enough for Mack to leave X. He's going to leverage the UL offer into a mega counter from X. Why would you want to leave the big east for UL right now? Right or wrong the BE is considered a top 3 bball conference, it is significantly easier to win the Big East than the ACC, great fans and half the pressure at X.

It comes down to scratch...how much can XU pony up vs. UL...it ain't even close. If they want Mack, Mack walks.

XU will find another quality coach...they always do.

I could go for Mussleman or Martin to replace Cronin.

I don't know that Mick gets any offers, however....

(03-22-2018 08:40 AM)Not Duane Wrote:  

(03-22-2018 08:18 AM)DownOnRohs Wrote:  We aren't lucky enough for Mack to leave X. He's going to leverage the UL offer into a mega counter from X. Why would you want to leave the big east for UL right now? Right or wrong the BE is considered a top 3 bball conference, it is significantly easier to win the Big East than the ACC, great fans and half the pressure at X.

It comes down to scratch...how much can XU pony up vs. UL...it ain't even close. If they want Mack, Mack walks.

XU will find another quality coach...they always do.

I could go for Mussleman or Martin to replace Cronin.

I don't know that Mick gets any offers, however....

A scary thought just struck me... what if X takes Musselman before we do? That would pretty much guarantee that X will continue to dominate us as long as Mick is here.