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(03-20-2018 12:50 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(03-20-2018 12:27 PM)BuffaloTN Wrote:  For those with a Facebook account, what do you actually get out of it? Seriously?

For me it's a way to keep up with far-flung family & friends and serves as the business website for my side project niche woodworking hobby/business.



Oh and whenever I feel down about something I go read the comments section on any news organization page and I feel a whole lot better about myself.

Ain't that the truth. I skip the articles sometimes and head straight there or come here lol.
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(03-20-2018 12:27 PM)BuffaloTN Wrote:  For those with a Facebook account, what do you actually get out of it? Seriously?

Well gives me cover to not go to reunions. 03-shhhh

It is incredibly hard to reach consumers if you don't use Facebook. Worst thing is a customer may go to the trouble of liking your site but many of them won't see the content they basically signed up for unless you throw Facebook a few dollars.
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(03-20-2018 01:31 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  Worst thing is a customer may go to the trouble of liking your site but many of them won't see the content they basically signed up for unless you throw Facebook a few dollars.

This guy gets it.
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(03-20-2018 01:40 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  
(03-20-2018 01:31 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  Worst thing is a customer may go to the trouble of liking your site but many of them won't see the content they basically signed up for unless you throw Facebook a few dollars.

This guy gets it.

It's intrusive, but from a business standpoint facebook ads have an awesome ROI. Hard to argue against when I look at traffic numbers and sales conversions from the ads and posts.

My personal page is purposefully contradictory. Don't know if it has any real effect on the value of whatever data they can mine from my profile, but it sure makes stirring the pot a little more interesting.
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(03-20-2018 12:27 PM)BuffaloTN Wrote:  For those with a Facebook account, what do you actually get out of it? Seriously?

Facebook allows my dad to post political rants and for my mom to practice her https://www.reddit.com/r/oldpeoplefacebook/ . My sister also uses it a lot to posture for her social justice de jure.

I just post cool pictures, especially ones of me that when I look at the picture I ask myself "Who’s that handsome guy looking back at me?"

03-lmfao
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Don't use the Facebook or the Twitter.


Get off my lawn.
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(03-20-2018 12:27 PM)BuffaloTN Wrote:  For those with a Facebook account, what do you actually get out of it? Seriously?


Honestly, it has allowed me to reconnect with a bunch of guys I went to college with that I had lost touch with. So much so that about 5 years ago we all decided to get together at the old U on a given weekend and upwards of 30 showed up - from places from Vermont to Arizona to Florida.

We had a really fun get-together.

Beyond that - I can keep up with the goings on in the town where I grew up.

Believe it or not - I NEVER post anything on facebook of a political nature. Have to tape my fingers back sometimes.

Mostly just "Hey, here are some pics of vacation or my wife likes to post grandkid pics and have everyone say "Oh, they're so cute".
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(03-20-2018 02:00 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  
(03-20-2018 01:40 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  
(03-20-2018 01:31 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  Worst thing is a customer may go to the trouble of liking your site but many of them won't see the content they basically signed up for unless you throw Facebook a few dollars.

This guy gets it.

It's intrusive, but from a business standpoint facebook ads have an awesome ROI. Hard to argue against when I look at traffic numbers and sales conversions from the ads and posts.

My personal page is purposefully contradictory. Don't know if it has any real effect on the value of whatever data they can mine from my profile, but it sure makes stirring the pot a little more interesting.

Except a lot of those ads are simply you paying to reach people who already said give me your information.
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(03-20-2018 02:59 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Don't use the Facebook or the Twitter.


Get off my lawn.

Matt Drudge called it two and a half years ago. Make your own playground, get the hell out of google's and zuck's hell pits. This era should be exciting, dynamic, controversial, yet they ("the socials") are recreating the internet in their own image, and it's horrific.


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(03-20-2018 03:21 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(03-20-2018 02:00 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  
(03-20-2018 01:40 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  
(03-20-2018 01:31 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  Worst thing is a customer may go to the trouble of liking your site but many of them won't see the content they basically signed up for unless you throw Facebook a few dollars.

This guy gets it.

It's intrusive, but from a business standpoint facebook ads have an awesome ROI. Hard to argue against when I look at traffic numbers and sales conversions from the ads and posts.

My personal page is purposefully contradictory. Don't know if it has any real effect on the value of whatever data they can mine from my profile, but it sure makes stirring the pot a little more interesting.

Except a lot of those ads are simply you paying to reach people who already said give me your information.

Again this guy gets it. +3 rep.
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(03-20-2018 03:51 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  
(03-20-2018 03:21 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(03-20-2018 02:00 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  
(03-20-2018 01:40 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  
(03-20-2018 01:31 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  Worst thing is a customer may go to the trouble of liking your site but many of them won't see the content they basically signed up for unless you throw Facebook a few dollars.

This guy gets it.

It's intrusive, but from a business standpoint facebook ads have an awesome ROI. Hard to argue against when I look at traffic numbers and sales conversions from the ads and posts.

My personal page is purposefully contradictory. Don't know if it has any real effect on the value of whatever data they can mine from my profile, but it sure makes stirring the pot a little more interesting.

Except a lot of those ads are simply you paying to reach people who already said give me your information.

Again this guy gets it. +3 rep.

Lived it.

6200 likes but posts are seen just over 1000 per week. For $5 I can boost that to 2500ish.
Get basically the same reach with twitter where someone checking an hour after a post you wouldn't expect to see that tweet.
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(03-20-2018 12:27 PM)BuffaloTN Wrote:  For those with a Facebook account, what do you actually get out of it? Seriously?


Periodic updates on HS friends.

Literally, nothing else.
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(03-20-2018 11:33 AM)VA49er Wrote:  
(03-20-2018 11:29 AM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  https://www.marketwatch.com/story/zucker...op_stories

Quote:Facebook Inc. Chief Executive Mark Zuckerberg saw his net worth decline by about $5 billion Monday, but it could have been worse.

Ahead of Facebook’s worst one-day decline since 2012, prompted by news that data affecting 51.3 million members was improperly shared with a political consulting firm, Zuckerberg had been busy selling stock. So far this year, he has sold nearly 5 million shares.

Disposing of those Facebook shares FB, -4.05% before Monday ended up saving about $40 million, according to Securities and Exchange Commission filings and some arithmetic by MarketWatch. At Monday’s close, the 4.9 million shares Zuckerberg has sold this year under a predetermined plan would be worth $855 million. Zuckerberg made about $900 million selling those shares, according to calculations using average weighted prices reported to the Securities and Exchange Commission.

Seems on the up and up, at least with regard to SEC filings, etc. Is the SEC looking into his sells for some reason?

Well, if you take a closer look at the timeline, it starts to seem a bit less on the up and up.

The breach happened in 2014.
By late 2015 Facebook knew about the severity of the breach internally but did and said nothing publicly at that time.
In December of 2015 Mark suddenly announced he wanted to sell 'billions of dollars' worth stock for his 'charity' work. At this point there was no external knowledge outside Facebook of the breach. So to the outside world, this seemed like no big deal. Hindsight though is different. He had just gotten information which could potentially destroy Facebook's profitability if it got out and enough people fled. His reaction? Try to exfiltrate as much wealth as he can into a new bucket which can't be touched.

However even in spite of his announcement in 2015, he did nothing on that front until late 2017.
In Sept 2017 he files to the SEC that he's going to sell over the next 18 months.
In March of 2018 he starts selling.
A few days later the breach information becomes public, and the value of Facebook stock drops rapidly.

There's a couple things here.
1) It's curious that an announcement of 'charity' work is made right after you internally learn of a massive data breach that could destroy trust in your entire company.

2) Even though you announced that charity work... you do nothing on that front for almost two years? It doesn't take you two years to file an SEC form. His attorney's could have done it in a day. This is typical action to make two events not look linked. But the simple fact is... if they were not linked there would have been zero reason for such a delay. Honestly I wouldn't doubt it if his Lawyers instructed him to wait to file the forms so the two would appear to not be causally linked like the announcement now in hindsight appears to be.

3) The SEC form filed, mentioned selling stock over an 18 month period. The length of time is normal so that selling stock in a block does not cause a slump. However even after filing this and stating 18 months... Zucker lets 1/3rd of his time go by with no movement.

4) No one could have expected the result of the Mueller investigation. No one could have predicted would have ended up where it is. So all of a sudden the leak becoming public is inevitable. Days before the leak becomes public knowledge... he starts dumping stock.
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Not to worry, he's giving most of the proceeds to charity. 03-lmfao
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(03-20-2018 03:21 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(03-20-2018 02:00 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  
(03-20-2018 01:40 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  
(03-20-2018 01:31 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  Worst thing is a customer may go to the trouble of liking your site but many of them won't see the content they basically signed up for unless you throw Facebook a few dollars.

This guy gets it.

It's intrusive, but from a business standpoint facebook ads have an awesome ROI. Hard to argue against when I look at traffic numbers and sales conversions from the ads and posts.

My personal page is purposefully contradictory. Don't know if it has any real effect on the value of whatever data they can mine from my profile, but it sure makes stirring the pot a little more interesting.

Except a lot of those ads are simply you paying to reach people who already said give me your information.
It's the sheer number of people reached and referral sales that they bring in. 10 referrals a year is up to a half million in revenue for my company.

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GTS is my zuckerberg. Lmao. He is a benevolt interwebs ruler. Plus I trust gatech folks
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(03-20-2018 02:59 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Don't use the Facebook or the Twitter.


Get off my lawn.

Yep and "bang, bang".
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(03-20-2018 11:42 AM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  
(03-20-2018 11:33 AM)VA49er Wrote:  Seems on the up and up, at least with regard to SEC filings, etc. Is the SEC looking into his sells for some reason?

No, but from everything I know (including others who have met and know him) he's a weapons grade arsehat. And while it seems on the up and up do I believe he knew and intentionally liquidated all he could reasonably get away with? Sure.

I don't like him. And I realllllllllllllllllly don't like how invasive his platform is. Especially when it is wielded as a political tool.

If I didn't need FB for business networking I would have already deleted my account.

Seems hypocritical...

I agree with your original statement and support it by not having a FB account.
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I had to do a little reading but it looks like he has dumbed a decent bit of stock recently.

Facebooks economic influence is immense and if it continues an upward trajectory the government should step in.

Facebook’s control isn’t unlike railroads of the past.
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