nomad2u2001
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RE: NJ high schools suspends two students for pictures taken at gun range
Hold up. In the article and the update on the story, the only person with knowledge of this suspension was 1 family friend. Not the families of the kids suspended, not the kids, not the kid's friends, etc.
I find it hard to believe that you can find a few families that wouldn't be causing a major stink over this, especially if they feel the school system is this far in the wrong. I mean, my mom has been cursed out by a parent who said the school "allowed" her child to trade their sandwich for M&Ms on a school trip. I think something else is up. The school board won't give details and the parents don't want to give those details out.
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RE: NJ high schools suspends two students for pictures taken at gun range
(03-20-2018 06:10 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote: Hold up. In the article and the update on the story, the only person with real knowledge of this suspension was 1 family friend. Not the families of the kids suspended, not the kids, not the school, etc.
I find it hard to believe that you can find a few families that wouldn't be causing a major stink over this, especially if they feel the school system is this far in the wrong. I think something else is up. The school board won't give details and the parents don't want to give those details out.
If Lawyers are involved, then that could be why nothing has been said by either side.
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nomad2u2001
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RE: NJ high schools suspends two students for pictures taken at gun range
(03-20-2018 06:15 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote: (03-20-2018 06:10 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote: Hold up. In the article and the update on the story, the only person with real knowledge of this suspension was 1 family friend. Not the families of the kids suspended, not the kids, not the school, etc.
I find it hard to believe that you can find a few families that wouldn't be causing a major stink over this, especially if they feel the school system is this far in the wrong. I think something else is up. The school board won't give details and the parents don't want to give those details out.
If Lawyers are involved, then that could be why nothing has been said by either side.
Fair enough. I can just go off my experience as the son of an educator. Usually, when the parents are quiet, they know that their kid did something bad.
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RE: NJ high schools suspends two students for pictures taken at gun range
(03-20-2018 06:32 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote: (03-20-2018 06:15 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote: (03-20-2018 06:10 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote: Hold up. In the article and the update on the story, the only person with real knowledge of this suspension was 1 family friend. Not the families of the kids suspended, not the kids, not the school, etc.
I find it hard to believe that you can find a few families that wouldn't be causing a major stink over this, especially if they feel the school system is this far in the wrong. I think something else is up. The school board won't give details and the parents don't want to give those details out.
If Lawyers are involved, then that could be why nothing has been said by either side.
Fair enough. I can just go off my experience as the son of an educator. Usually, when the parents are quiet, they know that their kid did something bad.
You just see what he saw. As a parent, I can tell you that sometimes parents are just too busy to deal with idiots in the school administration. If these kids are seniors, maybe they are just trying to get through the year and get it behind them and not face retaliation.
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RE: NJ high schools suspends two students for pictures taken at gun range
http://www.nj.com/ocean/index.ssf/2018/0...board.html
Quote:Angered by word of the disciplining of two Lacey High School students for a gun-related social media post, 200 parents, community members and other supporters of the Second Amendment on Monday let the Board of Education know they don't want the district trampling on their rights or meddling in their home lives.
"You guys are reaching into our private life, the private life of our children," said one parent, Lewis Fiordimondo, who has twins in pre-kindergarten and a daughter at the high school. "It's not your place. It's not the school's place."
Another dad, Frank Horvath, whose son is a senior at Lacey High, put things in blunter terms.
"It's none of your damn business what our children do outside of school," Horvath told the seven board members toward the end of a four-hour meeting, most of it occupied by speaker after speaker venting anger and frustration at school officials largely unable to respond due to confidentiality rules.
The unusually large turnout for Monday night's board meeting in the high school auditorium was prompted by a five-day in-school suspension of two senior boys after one of them posted a photo of themselves with guns at a local shooting range, away from school property and not during school hours.
The photo, which showed four rifles, ammunition magazines and a duffel bag, was shared by one of the students on Snapchat with the caption "fun day at the range," said Amanda Buron, whose daughter is a friend of one of the boys. Buron said the suspension was dropped after four days following a public outcry.
Quote:District officials have declined to comment on the incident. After the meeting Monday night, Board President Robert Klaus, Vice President Shawn Giordano and Board Attorney Chris Supsie all refused even to characterize the status of the situation, including whether it remained under investigation.
This after the language of a district policy in the student handbook was quietly amended last week following a local uproar in the Lacey community and the threat of a lawsuit by the Association of Rifle and Pistol Clubs of New Jersey, whose lawyer, Daniel Schmutter, was at Monday's board meeting.
Before the policy was changed, it had stated that, "any student who is reported to be in possession of a weapon of any type for any reason or purpose whether on or off school grounds," would be subject to penalties including up to a one-year suspension.
Now, the policy omits any mention of possessing a weapon off school grounds or the length of a suspension. The revamped policy also adds a note about school buses.
"Students are forbidden to carry any type of weapon or simulated weapon to school," the revamped policy states. "Strict disciplinary action and legal actions will result if this occurs. Any person who knowingly has in his possession any imitation firearm in or upon any part of the building... without the written authorization of the governing officer of the institution, or while on any school bus is a disorderly person."
Quote:One speaker, former Lacey school board member Regina Discenza, defended the district's actions, which were prompted by a report of the photo from a concerned parent, after 17 students and adults were shot and killed at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida.
"In light of what happened in Parkland, Florida, how can anyone say this board did not do its job?" said Discenza, whose remarks were booed by some and prompted one man to stand up and walk out.
The bold above says all one needs to know about the truth in this situation.
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NJ high schools suspends two students for pictures taken at gun range
(03-26-2018 10:00 PM)Kaplony Wrote: http://www.nj.com/ocean/index.ssf/2018/0...board.html
Quote:Angered by word of the disciplining of two Lacey High School students for a gun-related social media post, 200 parents, community members and other supporters of the Second Amendment on Monday let the Board of Education know they don't want the district trampling on their rights or meddling in their home lives.
"You guys are reaching into our private life, the private life of our children," said one parent, Lewis Fiordimondo, who has twins in pre-kindergarten and a daughter at the high school. "It's not your place. It's not the school's place."
Another dad, Frank Horvath, whose son is a senior at Lacey High, put things in blunter terms.
"It's none of your damn business what our children do outside of school," Horvath told the seven board members toward the end of a four-hour meeting, most of it occupied by speaker after speaker venting anger and frustration at school officials largely unable to respond due to confidentiality rules.
The unusually large turnout for Monday night's board meeting in the high school auditorium was prompted by a five-day in-school suspension of two senior boys after one of them posted a photo of themselves with guns at a local shooting range, away from school property and not during school hours.
The photo, which showed four rifles, ammunition magazines and a duffel bag, was shared by one of the students on Snapchat with the caption "fun day at the range," said Amanda Buron, whose daughter is a friend of one of the boys. Buron said the suspension was dropped after four days following a public outcry.
Quote:District officials have declined to comment on the incident. After the meeting Monday night, Board President Robert Klaus, Vice President Shawn Giordano and Board Attorney Chris Supsie all refused even to characterize the status of the situation, including whether it remained under investigation.
This after the language of a district policy in the student handbook was quietly amended last week following a local uproar in the Lacey community and the threat of a lawsuit by the Association of Rifle and Pistol Clubs of New Jersey, whose lawyer, Daniel Schmutter, was at Monday's board meeting.
Before the policy was changed, it had stated that, "any student who is reported to be in possession of a weapon of any type for any reason or purpose whether on or off school grounds," would be subject to penalties including up to a one-year suspension.
Now, the policy omits any mention of possessing a weapon off school grounds or the length of a suspension. The revamped policy also adds a note about school buses.
"Students are forbidden to carry any type of weapon or simulated weapon to school," the revamped policy states. "Strict disciplinary action and legal actions will result if this occurs. Any person who knowingly has in his possession any imitation firearm in or upon any part of the building... without the written authorization of the governing officer of the institution, or while on any school bus is a disorderly person."
Quote:One speaker, former Lacey school board member Regina Discenza, defended the district's actions, which were prompted by a report of the photo from a concerned parent, after 17 students and adults were shot and killed at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida.
"In light of what happened in Parkland, Florida, how can anyone say this board did not do its job?" said Discenza, whose remarks were booed by some and prompted one man to stand up and walk out.
The bold above says all one needs to know about the truth in this situation.
Glad we’ve entered “report your neighbors” nazi territory. Holy shiza.
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