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Does a "national search" necessarily mean some outside firm is hired to do the legwork, or does Chasse do the culling himself?
03-13-2018 08:05 AM
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(03-13-2018 08:05 AM)MICHAELSPAPPY Wrote:  Does a "national search" necessarily mean some outside firm is hired to do the legwork, or does Chasse do the culling himself?

Not entirely sure how that works, but my guess is that the firm identifies candidates who are interested, qualified, and who might make a good fit. They probably provide the background info, pluses and minuses, etc. on each candidate for Chase to review, etc. and then decide who he would like to interview, etc. I would speculate that without Eddie Fogler's work last time, we would have never found and hired Chris Beard.
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(03-13-2018 08:05 AM)MICHAELSPAPPY Wrote:  Does a "national search" necessarily mean some outside firm is hired to do the legwork, or does Chasse do the culling himself?

I have not heard anything about a search firm. Hiring Eddie Fogler might not be a bad idea considering he found Beard the first time. Still, Chasse has now been on the job for 3 years and probably feels much more comfortable making the hire himself. Be interesting to know what direction he may be going at this point- previous DI experience (i.e. retread), assistant from a good program, DII or junior college. I guess there are a lot of possibilities. A move from Juco to Di is pretty rare, but sometimes they are able to bring some solid guys with them.
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(03-13-2018 09:42 AM)mjs Wrote:  
(03-13-2018 08:05 AM)MICHAELSPAPPY Wrote:  Does a "national search" necessarily mean some outside firm is hired to do the legwork, or does Chasse do the culling himself?

I have not heard anything about a search firm. Hiring Eddie Fogler might not be a bad idea considering he found Beard the first time. Still, Chasse has now been on the job for 3 years and probably feels much more comfortable making the hire himself. Be interesting to know what direction he may be going at this point- previous DI experience (i.e. retread), assistant from a good program, DII or junior college. I guess there are a lot of possibilities. A move from Juco to Di is pretty rare, but sometimes they are able to bring some solid guys with them.

It is not unusual for ADs with a lot more experience than Chase to hire search firms. It literally broadens the horizon for candidates- ala Chris Beard.
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Search firm makes it easier to dodge FOI. Mohajir at AState is super careful and last two searches the paper ran "here's the top 5" based on FOI. First time they got 2 out 5 right and second time got one out of five right.

The upside of search firm beyond FOI is they will call several agents to see who may be interested. If you have someone you are interested in the firm will take the name(s) to the agents to see if the coach is interested.
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(03-13-2018 09:42 AM)mjs Wrote:  A move from Juco to Di is pretty rare, but sometimes they are able to bring some solid guys with them.

True, and for good reason. However, if he were interested, I definitely would take a look at UAFS' Josh Newman. He has had a very successful D2 program, plus UAFS was a "feeder" juco program (developing high major prospects who couldn't make the grades). They had a very high level of talent when they were juco.
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(03-13-2018 09:49 AM)PTJR Wrote:  It is not unusual for ADs with a lot more experience than Chase to hire search firms. It literally broadens the horizon for candidates- ala Chris Beard.

If nothing else, it just saves the AD a lot of time by doing all the leg work for them. Cull the candidates that do not meet the criteria. Make sure we can meet the candidate's money requirements. Do a little detective work to see if there are any skeletons in his closet. Etc.
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Anyone think the deal will be done before the end of the Dance?
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(03-13-2018 01:30 PM)MICHAELSPAPPY Wrote:  Anyone think the deal will be done before the end of the Dance?

If it someone like Derek Fisher or Darrell Walker, I'd say yes. If not, I'd lean to no.
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(03-13-2018 01:30 PM)MICHAELSPAPPY Wrote:  Anyone think the deal will be done before the end of the Dance?

With the women in the NCAA Tournament this weekend in Florida, which obviously Chase will attend, no announcement before the end of the Dance would be my guess. That would only leave about two weeks, and that is assuming Joe's team gets knocked out in the first round. Never count Coach Foley's teams out, so it could be even a shorter time to the end of the Dance to work with.
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No idea when it might be done. I would think that our new coach would most likely come from within 400-500 miles of Little Rock. I think you would want someone who already has recruiting ties in this part of the country. I'm sure there are great coaching candidates in the Northeast or West Coast, but most would have little knowledge of this area of the country.
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(03-13-2018 03:59 PM)mjs Wrote:  No idea when it might be done. I would think that our new coach would most likely come from within 400-500 miles of Little Rock. I think you would want someone who already has recruiting ties in this part of the country. I'm sure there are great coaching candidates in the Northeast or West Coast, but most would have little knowledge of this area of the country.

Agree about Northeast and West Coast possibly, but recruiting is a far flung thing these days.
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Walker is coaching in Atlanta but he has a roster full of players from Illinois. I remember a pretty good player we had from Chicago that walker sent us. What was his name, Nick zachry?
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(03-13-2018 07:18 PM)ez272 Wrote:  Walker is coaching in Atlanta but he has a roster full of players from Illinois. I remember a pretty good player we had from Chicago that walker sent us. What was his name, Nick zachry?

Yep. Nick Zachary could really shoot it. Unfortunately, he was kicked off the team like most of our "star" players.
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Nick seemed to have had a real attitude problem. It wasn't "us," it was "me."
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“That commitment, along with a strong university in a thriving metropolitan community, will make this a very attractive position as we work through a national search to find a top-notch coach to lead the Little Rock Trojans.”

Reading between the lines of Conque's statement, I would say that he is going to take his time, and it will indeed be an extensive search. "Work through" - that means we are not in a hurry.
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The problem, of course, with a slow, exhaustive, extensive national search is that occasionally a prime candidate might be available and might be interested, but if you piddle around you won't get him, because someone else will snap him up.
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(03-14-2018 07:18 AM)MICHAELSPAPPY Wrote:  Nick seemed to have had a real attitude problem. It wasn't "us," it was "me."

I met Nick one time at a practice, after he was dismissed from the team, and talked with him for quite a long time. He was as nice as any kid I've ever met, and did not say one thing negative about the team or the coach. He still supported the team. That's why he was at the practice. He also didn't bring up the dismissal. That was the only tine I ever talked to him, although I did see him at some games.-
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I was talking more about on the court.
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