(03-10-2018 06:59 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  

(03-10-2018 06:31 PM)MTigerBlue Wrote:  Well, you have expectations and then you have reality. Reality is, we lost by 14 and 30 in the first games of the conference tourneys with the Lawsons and by 10 in the semifinals without them (and our best player.)

Edit: no, my bad. First year they did get to the third game, also. Just last year was the big flop.

Yes but there was an internal problem going on last year that led to the implosion. They were 18-7 and being discussed for the NCAA tournament before whatever it was happened.

This team was 14-11 and then went on a little run against just **** teams sans Houston. I think we can all see now that the problem was Tubby at least as much as it was Lawson.

Saul should not be taking up space on a D1 staff.

If Tubby hadn't been so stubborn it might have all turned out much, much differently.

Tubby didn't handle his business.

That last part, like much of the rest, is your opinion. Regardless, wouldn't you have to say he handled it better this year when we won 7 of the last 9 instead of losing 7 of the last 9? To me, it's either that, or we had better players.

(03-10-2018 06:57 PM)Unionman76 Wrote:  

(03-10-2018 03:43 PM)selleg1 Wrote:  I heard they fired Tubby in the handshake line

By who

There were no chiefs here in Orlando , pretty sad

Well the band looked and sounded good.

(03-10-2018 07:10 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  

(03-10-2018 06:57 PM)Unionman76 Wrote:  

(03-10-2018 03:43 PM)selleg1 Wrote:  I heard they fired Tubby in the handshake line

By who

There were no chiefs here in Orlando , pretty sad

Well the band looked and sounded good.

The tuba player handed him the pink slip.

Word on the street, Shaq interested in joining Penny's staff

(03-10-2018 07:09 PM)MTigerBlue Wrote:  

(03-10-2018 06:59 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  

(03-10-2018 06:31 PM)MTigerBlue Wrote:  Well, you have expectations and then you have reality. Reality is, we lost by 14 and 30 in the first games of the conference tourneys with the Lawsons and by 10 in the semifinals without them (and our best player.)

Edit: no, my bad. First year they did get to the third game, also. Just last year was the big flop.

Yes but there was an internal problem going on last year that led to the implosion. They were 18-7 and being discussed for the NCAA tournament before whatever it was happened.

This team was 14-11 and then went on a little run against just **** teams sans Houston. I think we can all see now that the problem was Tubby at least as much as it was Lawson.

Saul should not be taking up space on a D1 staff.

If Tubby hadn't been so stubborn it might have all turned out much, much differently.

Tubby didn't handle his business.

That last part, like much of the rest, is your opinion. Regardless, wouldn't you have to say he handled it better this year when we won 7 of the last 9 instead of losing 7 of the last 9? To me, it's either that, or we had better players.

Check the schedules

Of course it's my opinion. And?

(03-10-2018 07:23 PM)memphisike Wrote:  Word on the street, Shaq interested in joining Penny's staff

Yeah like Shaq is going to leave his cushy NBA job for a low paying assistant gig for Memphis.

(03-10-2018 07:27 PM)Tigergary Wrote:  

(03-10-2018 07:23 PM)memphisike Wrote:  Word on the street, Shaq interested in joining Penny's staff

Yeah like Shaq is going to leave his cushy NBA job for a low paying assistant gig for Memphis.

Shaq is worth like 400 million, but yeah you're right.

(03-10-2018 07:31 PM)MemphisTigers2009 Wrote:  

(03-10-2018 07:27 PM)Tigergary Wrote:  

(03-10-2018 07:23 PM)memphisike Wrote:  Word on the street, Shaq interested in joining Penny's staff

Yeah like Shaq is going to leave his cushy NBA job for a low paying assistant gig for Memphis.

Shaq is worth like 400 million, but yeah you're right.

I know what he's worth. Hes also said he wanted to be a sheriff. That ain't happened lol.

(03-10-2018 07:09 PM)MTigerBlue Wrote:  

(03-10-2018 06:59 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  

(03-10-2018 06:31 PM)MTigerBlue Wrote:  Well, you have expectations and then you have reality. Reality is, we lost by 14 and 30 in the first games of the conference tourneys with the Lawsons and by 10 in the semifinals without them (and our best player.)

Edit: no, my bad. First year they did get to the third game, also. Just last year was the big flop.

Yes but there was an internal problem going on last year that led to the implosion. They were 18-7 and being discussed for the NCAA tournament before whatever it was happened.

This team was 14-11 and then went on a little run against just **** teams sans Houston. I think we can all see now that the problem was Tubby at least as much as it was Lawson.

Saul should not be taking up space on a D1 staff.

If Tubby hadn't been so stubborn it might have all turned out much, much differently.

Tubby didn't handle his business.

That last part, like much of the rest, is your opinion. Regardless, wouldn't you have to say he handled it better this year when we won 7 of the last 9 instead of losing 7 of the last 9? To me, it's either that, or we had better players.

The 2 losses to ECU and USF said all that needed said.

(03-10-2018 07:26 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  

(03-10-2018 07:09 PM)MTigerBlue Wrote:  That last part, like much of the rest, is your opinion. Regardless, wouldn't you have to say he handled it better this year when we won 7 of the last 9 instead of losing 7 of the last 9? To me, it's either that, or we had better players.

Check the schedules

Of course it's my opinion. And?

So, your opinion is that the reason we went 7-2 to close out this year vs 2-7 to close out last year is because we played USF twice and ECU once this year as opposed to playing UCF twice and Temple once last year? All the rest of the teams were the same. Our two wins last year were Tulane and Tulsa, and our two losses this year were USF and #8 Cincinnati in the conference semifinals. I don't think there's much doubt we did better this year, but that's my opinion.

(03-10-2018 07:45 PM)MTigerBlue Wrote:  

(03-10-2018 07:26 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  

(03-10-2018 07:09 PM)MTigerBlue Wrote:  That last part, like much of the rest, is your opinion. Regardless, wouldn't you have to say he handled it better this year when we won 7 of the last 9 instead of losing 7 of the last 9? To me, it's either that, or we had better players.

Check the schedules

Of course it's my opinion. And?

So, your opinion is that the reason we went 7-2 to close out this year vs 2-7 to close out last year is because we played USF twice and ECU once this year as opposed to playing UCF twice and Temple once last year? All the rest of the teams were the same. Our two wins last year were Tulane and Tulsa, and our two losses this year were USF and #8 Cincinnati in the conference semifinals. I don't think there's much doubt we did better this year, but that's my opinion.

No I think the reason we finished better this year was primarily team chemistry and a little bit schedule.

The reason we finished better this year is because this years team didn't quit. Last year, they had all packed it in. Blame the Lawson's, blame the players, blame the coach, blame us, but, its the coach's job.

(03-10-2018 07:54 PM)cmt Wrote:  The reason we finished better this year is because this years team didn't quit. Last year, they had all packed it in. Blame the Lawson's, blame the players, blame the coach, blame us, but, its the coach's job.

Yep, plain and simple -- they quit. Had nothing to do with schedule, tired legs or anything else. And I think there was plenty of blame to go around. I was glad to get rid of that drama, but it looks like it's reared its ugly head again.