(03-24-2018 03:02 AM)_C2_ Wrote:  

(03-23-2018 11:31 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(03-23-2018 10:46 PM)Sactowndog Wrote:  

(03-22-2018 11:00 PM)ohio1317 Wrote:  I prefer football because it actually matters what you do for a season. It has issues, but no fewer than basketball which lets taleted teams play medicore until March and then be called national champs. I like every game having significance and I just never feel that with basketball till March.

Hilarious coming from the team that passed over Penn State who actually did win it on the field. The complete hypocrisy of the regular season argument was exposed when they took Ohio State over Penn State.

Not really. Winning your conference doesn't necessarily mean you had a better season. Ohio State had a better season than Penn State last year.

Then why even play the games? It's not like college basketball where you have no shortage of at-large spots, at least for teams that had a great season without winning an auto-bid.

Short of a team basically not winning any non-conference games, they presumably went 11-2 or better (no team in playoff contention is getting in at 10-3 or worse unless it's a really down/parity filled year). The only thing you could point to is unbalanced scheduling within conferences but that's their fault for overexpanding.

It's just further proof college football is a dog and pony show. I will add the caveat of head-to-head. As long as said proto 10-2 conference champion beat 11-1 non-champ, then 10/11-2 champion should be ahead. If not, especially if 11-1 champ won head-to-head, then place 11-1 team ahead. If from different conferences, then the non-champ should be far and away better.

Not that it's up to me. Still, at the very least, scenarios like that make a mockery of the argument that every week matters. What you do in the season matters, until it doesn't and the most fashionable or arbitrarily determined best team wins.

The weirdness here is that you are touting your position as that of making sure that 'every game matters' when in fact the committee's decision to pick OSU over PSU was more consistent with that philosophy.

The committee's position came from valuing the entire schedule, whereas your view values conference games considerably above OOC games.

Not only does that denigrate part of the season, it denigrates the more important part. What teams do in-conference is nice from the POV of that conference, but it has less meaning nationally, and we are picking teams for a national playoffs.

For that purpose, what you do OOC is more important than what you do in conference, because it is more to the point of your ability to compete nationally, outside of your conference's corner of the sand box, which is what we want to know.

In 2016, during the regular season, Ohio State lost one time - by 3 points on the road at Penn State (heck, HFA is worth 3 points right there). Penn State also lost by 3 on the road, but to a 8-5 Pitt team, and got snot-rocked 49-10 by Michigan. OSU also beat Big 12 champ Oklahoma on the road.

Looking at ALL the games, OSU was clearly better.