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RE: Brennan on Trump: Unstable, inexperienced, unethical, inept
(03-04-2018 08:24 AM)JMUDunk Wrote:  
(03-04-2018 01:02 AM)Zombiewoof Wrote:  
(03-04-2018 12:44 AM)Jjoey52 Wrote:  And only 7 more years.


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You may be right, but indicators suggest that may not be the case. Direction of the country polls strongly suggest that the majority of Americans don't care for the direction we are going. The best figures for Trump was 39% last March.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls...y-902.html

His job performance and personal approval numbers have been consistently poor and given his propensity to find new groups of people to offend, I don't see those numbers improving significantly.

Before someone goes off on a rant about how poor the polls were prior to the 2016 election, I agree that they were way off the mark. He had no job performance at that time and I have seen a lot of Trump supporters fall away since he has taken office. Some of the people I knew that were 100% for him over HRC aren't likely to vote for him again.


It’s gonna all depend (mostly) on two things.

The economy, meaning jobs, wages and job security.

The alternative.

Trot out the Warren/Waters ticket and we’ll see 1984 all over again.

Trade war looming, unpopular and costly tariffs looming, stock market in strong negative reaction to tariff talk. No telling how long or deep this will run, but it certainly doesn't paint a promising picture for the economy.

If anyone as bad as HRC gets nominated, even I'll change parties. ANYONE the dems could nominated other than HRC would have trounced Trump. If they come up with someone with just moderate appeal across the lines, that person will be the next prez and this nightmare will be over.
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RE: Brennan on Trump: Unstable, inexperienced, unethical, inept
(03-04-2018 12:21 PM)Old Dominion Wrote:  
(03-04-2018 08:24 AM)JMUDunk Wrote:  
(03-04-2018 01:02 AM)Zombiewoof Wrote:  
(03-04-2018 12:44 AM)Jjoey52 Wrote:  And only 7 more years.


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You may be right, but indicators suggest that may not be the case. Direction of the country polls strongly suggest that the majority of Americans don't care for the direction we are going. The best figures for Trump was 39% last March.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls...y-902.html

His job performance and personal approval numbers have been consistently poor and given his propensity to find new groups of people to offend, I don't see those numbers improving significantly.

Before someone goes off on a rant about how poor the polls were prior to the 2016 election, I agree that they were way off the mark. He had no job performance at that time and I have seen a lot of Trump supporters fall away since he has taken office. Some of the people I knew that were 100% for him over HRC aren't likely to vote for him again.


It’s gonna all depend (mostly) on two things.

The economy, meaning jobs, wages and job security.

The alternative.

Trot out the Warren/Waters ticket and we’ll see 1984 all over again.

Trade war looming, unpopular and costly tariffs looming, stock market in strong negative reaction to tariff talk. No telling how long or deep this will run, but it certainly doesn't paint a promising picture for the economy.

If anyone as bad as HRC gets nominated, even I'll change parties. ANYONE the dems could nominated other than HRC would have trounced Trump. If they come up with someone with just moderate appeal across the lines, that person will be the next prez and this nightmare will be over.

Best get to searching because there's nobody currently in your party that comes to mind.
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RE: Brennan on Trump: Unstable, inexperienced, unethical, inept
(03-04-2018 12:21 PM)Old Dominion Wrote:  
(03-04-2018 08:24 AM)JMUDunk Wrote:  
(03-04-2018 01:02 AM)Zombiewoof Wrote:  
(03-04-2018 12:44 AM)Jjoey52 Wrote:  And only 7 more years.
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You may be right, but indicators suggest that may not be the case. Direction of the country polls strongly suggest that the majority of Americans don't care for the direction we are going. The best figures for Trump was 39% last March.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls...y-902.html
His job performance and personal approval numbers have been consistently poor and given his propensity to find new groups of people to offend, I don't see those numbers improving significantly.
Before someone goes off on a rant about how poor the polls were prior to the 2016 election, I agree that they were way off the mark. He had no job performance at that time and I have seen a lot of Trump supporters fall away since he has taken office. Some of the people I knew that were 100% for him over HRC aren't likely to vote for him again.
It’s gonna all depend (mostly) on two things.
The economy, meaning jobs, wages and job security.
The alternative.
Trot out the Warren/Waters ticket and we’ll see 1984 all over again.
Trade war looming, unpopular and costly tariffs looming, stock market in strong negative reaction to tariff talk. No telling how long or deep this will run, but it certainly doesn't paint a promising picture for the economy.
If anyone as bad as HRC gets nominated, even I'll change parties. ANYONE the dems could nominated other than HRC would have trounced Trump. If they come up with someone with just moderate appeal across the lines, that person will be the next prez and this nightmare will be over.

The closest person to a moderate who has a chance of getting either party's nomination as things now stand is...

Donald Trump.
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RE: Brennan on Trump: Unstable, inexperienced, unethical, inept
(03-04-2018 01:03 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(03-04-2018 12:21 PM)Old Dominion Wrote:  
(03-04-2018 08:24 AM)JMUDunk Wrote:  
(03-04-2018 01:02 AM)Zombiewoof Wrote:  
(03-04-2018 12:44 AM)Jjoey52 Wrote:  And only 7 more years.
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You may be right, but indicators suggest that may not be the case. Direction of the country polls strongly suggest that the majority of Americans don't care for the direction we are going. The best figures for Trump was 39% last March.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls...y-902.html
His job performance and personal approval numbers have been consistently poor and given his propensity to find new groups of people to offend, I don't see those numbers improving significantly.
Before someone goes off on a rant about how poor the polls were prior to the 2016 election, I agree that they were way off the mark. He had no job performance at that time and I have seen a lot of Trump supporters fall away since he has taken office. Some of the people I knew that were 100% for him over HRC aren't likely to vote for him again.
It’s gonna all depend (mostly) on two things.
The economy, meaning jobs, wages and job security.
The alternative.
Trot out the Warren/Waters ticket and we’ll see 1984 all over again.
Trade war looming, unpopular and costly tariffs looming, stock market in strong negative reaction to tariff talk. No telling how long or deep this will run, but it certainly doesn't paint a promising picture for the economy.
If anyone as bad as HRC gets nominated, even I'll change parties. ANYONE the dems could nominated other than HRC would have trounced Trump. If they come up with someone with just moderate appeal across the lines, that person will be the next prez and this nightmare will be over.

The closest person to a moderate who has a chance of getting either party's nomination as things now stand is...

Donald Trump.

I'd have voted for Jim Webb over Trump, but Jim Webb stands less of a chance of getting the nomination in today's democratic party as Lindsey Graham.
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RE: Brennan on Trump: Unstable, inexperienced, unethical, inept
If Jim Webb had correctly attacked Hillary and her email server, he may not have won the last time around, but he would be in beautiful shape this time around.
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Brennan on Trump: Unstable, inexperienced, unethical, inept
(03-04-2018 12:21 PM)Old Dominion Wrote:  
(03-04-2018 08:24 AM)JMUDunk Wrote:  
(03-04-2018 01:02 AM)Zombiewoof Wrote:  
(03-04-2018 12:44 AM)Jjoey52 Wrote:  And only 7 more years.


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You may be right, but indicators suggest that may not be the case. Direction of the country polls strongly suggest that the majority of Americans don't care for the direction we are going. The best figures for Trump was 39% last March.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls...y-902.html

His job performance and personal approval numbers have been consistently poor and given his propensity to find new groups of people to offend, I don't see those numbers improving significantly.

Before someone goes off on a rant about how poor the polls were prior to the 2016 election, I agree that they were way off the mark. He had no job performance at that time and I have seen a lot of Trump supporters fall away since he has taken office. Some of the people I knew that were 100% for him over HRC aren't likely to vote for him again.


It’s gonna all depend (mostly) on two things.

The economy, meaning jobs, wages and job security.

The alternative.

Trot out the Warren/Waters ticket and we’ll see 1984 all over again.

Trade war looming, unpopular and costly tariffs looming, stock market in strong negative reaction to tariff talk. No telling how long or deep this will run, but it certainly doesn't paint a promising picture for the economy.

If anyone as bad as HRC gets nominated, even I'll change parties. ANYONE the dems could nominated other than HRC would have trounced Trump. If they come up with someone with just moderate appeal across the lines, that person will be the next prez and this nightmare will be over.


Yea, good luck with that.

The party of illegal aliens and increasing socialism will be serving up a hot plate of Corey Booker or Kamala Harris.

That party is moving further left, as in Bernville hard left, not to “moderation”.

Not sure what “as bad as” means. her crap campaign? Rank corruption? Unlikeable, condescending and patronizing personality? Her sense of entitlement to the office?

Be hard to find someone as bad again, so I guess you’ve got a pretty easy out...
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Brennan on Trump: Unstable, inexperienced, unethical, inept
(03-04-2018 01:50 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(03-04-2018 01:03 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(03-04-2018 12:21 PM)Old Dominion Wrote:  
(03-04-2018 08:24 AM)JMUDunk Wrote:  
(03-04-2018 01:02 AM)Zombiewoof Wrote:  You may be right, but indicators suggest that may not be the case. Direction of the country polls strongly suggest that the majority of Americans don't care for the direction we are going. The best figures for Trump was 39% last March.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls...y-902.html
His job performance and personal approval numbers have been consistently poor and given his propensity to find new groups of people to offend, I don't see those numbers improving significantly.
Before someone goes off on a rant about how poor the polls were prior to the 2016 election, I agree that they were way off the mark. He had no job performance at that time and I have seen a lot of Trump supporters fall away since he has taken office. Some of the people I knew that were 100% for him over HRC aren't likely to vote for him again.
It’s gonna all depend (mostly) on two things.
The economy, meaning jobs, wages and job security.
The alternative.
Trot out the Warren/Waters ticket and we’ll see 1984 all over again.
Trade war looming, unpopular and costly tariffs looming, stock market in strong negative reaction to tariff talk. No telling how long or deep this will run, but it certainly doesn't paint a promising picture for the economy.
If anyone as bad as HRC gets nominated, even I'll change parties. ANYONE the dems could nominated other than HRC would have trounced Trump. If they come up with someone with just moderate appeal across the lines, that person will be the next prez and this nightmare will be over.

The closest person to a moderate who has a chance of getting either party's nomination as things now stand is...

Donald Trump.

I'd have voted for Jim Webb over Trump, but Jim Webb stands less of a chance of getting the nomination in today's democratic party as Lindsey Graham.


Webb’s a decent guy with a pretty outstanding resume. I may well have voted for him too, depending on how far left he would have had to move to get the nomination.

He had less of a shot in that process than that mumbling socialistlite wanna be Marty O ‘Malley. You know, the former Mayor of that leftist utopia, Baltimore...

Webb looked like a deer in the headlights up there, as in “Holy schit, where am I, who are these 3 other nutjobs and what’s happened to the democrat party?!?”.
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RE: Brennan on Trump: Unstable, inexperienced, unethical, inept
(03-04-2018 01:50 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(03-04-2018 01:03 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(03-04-2018 12:21 PM)Old Dominion Wrote:  
(03-04-2018 08:24 AM)JMUDunk Wrote:  
(03-04-2018 01:02 AM)Zombiewoof Wrote:  You may be right, but indicators suggest that may not be the case. Direction of the country polls strongly suggest that the majority of Americans don't care for the direction we are going. The best figures for Trump was 39% last March.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls...y-902.html
His job performance and personal approval numbers have been consistently poor and given his propensity to find new groups of people to offend, I don't see those numbers improving significantly.
Before someone goes off on a rant about how poor the polls were prior to the 2016 election, I agree that they were way off the mark. He had no job performance at that time and I have seen a lot of Trump supporters fall away since he has taken office. Some of the people I knew that were 100% for him over HRC aren't likely to vote for him again.
It’s gonna all depend (mostly) on two things.
The economy, meaning jobs, wages and job security.
The alternative.
Trot out the Warren/Waters ticket and we’ll see 1984 all over again.
Trade war looming, unpopular and costly tariffs looming, stock market in strong negative reaction to tariff talk. No telling how long or deep this will run, but it certainly doesn't paint a promising picture for the economy.
If anyone as bad as HRC gets nominated, even I'll change parties. ANYONE the dems could nominated other than HRC would have trounced Trump. If they come up with someone with just moderate appeal across the lines, that person will be the next prez and this nightmare will be over.

The closest person to a moderate who has a chance of getting either party's nomination as things now stand is...

Donald Trump.

I'd have voted for Jim Webb over Trump, but Jim Webb stands less of a chance of getting the nomination in today's democratic party as Lindsey Graham.

I would have as well. I think he has no more chance than Ted Cruz would have of getting the Democratic nomination (you can't get any lower than zero).
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Mach sure bailed on this thread fairly quick when confronted with facts.
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RE: Brennan on Trump: Unstable, inexperienced, unethical, inept
(03-04-2018 03:00 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  
(03-04-2018 01:50 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(03-04-2018 01:03 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(03-04-2018 12:21 PM)Old Dominion Wrote:  
(03-04-2018 08:24 AM)JMUDunk Wrote:  It’s gonna all depend (mostly) on two things.
The economy, meaning jobs, wages and job security.
The alternative.
Trot out the Warren/Waters ticket and we’ll see 1984 all over again.
Trade war looming, unpopular and costly tariffs looming, stock market in strong negative reaction to tariff talk. No telling how long or deep this will run, but it certainly doesn't paint a promising picture for the economy.
If anyone as bad as HRC gets nominated, even I'll change parties. ANYONE the dems could nominated other than HRC would have trounced Trump. If they come up with someone with just moderate appeal across the lines, that person will be the next prez and this nightmare will be over.

The closest person to a moderate who has a chance of getting either party's nomination as things now stand is...

Donald Trump.

I'd have voted for Jim Webb over Trump, but Jim Webb stands less of a chance of getting the nomination in today's democratic party as Lindsey Graham.


Webb’s a decent guy with a pretty outstanding resume. I may well have voted for him too, depending on how far left he would have had to move to get the nomination.

He had less of a shot in that process than that mumbling socialistlite wanna be Marty O ‘Malley. You know, the former Mayor of that leftist utopia, Baltimore...

Webb looked like a deer in the headlights up there, as in “Holy schit, where am I, who are these 3 other nutjobs and what’s happened to the democrat party?!?”.
I was pulling for Lincoln Chafee. What a terrific bench the democrats have.

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RE: Brennan on Trump: Unstable, inexperienced, unethical, inept
(03-04-2018 03:18 AM)Zombiewoof Wrote:  
(03-04-2018 01:58 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(03-04-2018 01:46 AM)Zombiewoof Wrote:  
(03-04-2018 01:10 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(03-04-2018 01:02 AM)Zombiewoof Wrote:  You may be right, but indicators suggest that may not be the case. Direction of the country polls strongly suggest that the majority of Americans don't care for the direction we are going. The best figures for Trump was 39% last March.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls...y-902.html

His job performance and personal approval numbers have been consistently poor and given his propensity to find new groups of people to offend, I don't see those numbers improving significantly.

Before someone goes off on a rant about how poor the polls were prior to the 2016 election, I agree that they were way off the mark. He had no job performance at that time and I have seen a lot of Trump supporters fall away since he has taken office. Some of the people I knew that were 100% for him over HRC aren't likely to vote for him again.

Thats no doubt true. But that's 3 years from the election where Trump is the only target to shoot at. In 3 years, if the economy is still doing nicely, the tax cut is universally popular, and we are seeing jobs coming back to the US from overseas--Trump may be looked at differently.

Additionally, dont forget, the Democrats are going to have a primary. Once some of those folks see the radical left crazy nut job that finally is able to win the Dem primary by being more anti-middle class than every other democrat--well---those folks might be right back in the Trump camp. Thats how I got there. I didnt want Hillary picking the next Supreme Court Justice. Trump was more conservative than Hillary. lol....Its not like there were alot of choices on the menu. 04-cheers

That could absolutely happen. In my little corner of Mississippi, there were a lot of hardcore Trump supporters, but possibly just as many who didn't want Hillary (or Bernie) within a million miles of the White House. Hillary is simply hated around here. If the Democrats pick a candidate who appeals to their far left base, they will have zero chance of picking up votes around here, no matter how much traction Trump has lost here. On the other hand, Trump gets us in another war, we start hemorrhaging jobs or they nominate someone who at least seems reasonable (maybe a Jim Webb type), then Trump would have no shot.

Maybe thats why I am like I am when it comes to Trump. He wasnt my guy in the primary--but he was better than Hillary. I picked him to get a conservative SC justice. I liked some of his ideas, but just as I expected, I knew the press would have a field day with his mouth.

Funny thing happned---I had little expectation that he'd actually get to follow through on the stuff I iiked in his speeches---but surprise---he actually kept his word for the most part.

I got my conservative SC justice in his first few months. He cut taxes. He created a more business friendly environment. He at least tired to get rid of Obamacare. He continues to move toward building the wall and he has worked to create trade deals that will give the American worker a fair shake. lol...and his mouth has also landed him in trouble--but I figured that would happen. Bottom line---I have been pleasantly surprised that he actually followed through with much of the part I liked about his campaign and actually got some of it implemented.

Right now--Im pleased. lol....But who knows what will happen next week. This time reminds me in some ways of Reagan. That was my first time voting for president. I was very excited to vote for RR and was equally happy to get rid of Jimmy Carter. I was young--and some thought I nuts to vote for Reagan. Many folks thought Reagan was a joke, an idiot, and some though him unfit for office. My guess is that Trump is much like Reagan in that he knows what needs to be done. What he lacks is Reagans charm and Regans's ability to poke fun at himself--something that ended up endearing him to the American people. In the end, I suspect Trump will end up being pretty good for the country (something that may even one day be a widely shared opinion)--despite that, he will probably never enjoy much over 50% popularity because of his personality.

LOL! I have a few elections on you. My first was Richard Nixon's re-election. Now there was a guy that few had a real fondness for personally, but thought he was doing a pretty good job as POTUS. My biggest gripe with him was when he pulled a rabbit out of the Democrats' hat with wage and price controls. Dang I was ticked off at him for that, but voted for him a couple of years later anyway. If he hadn't been caught up in Watergate, he would have been pretty highly regarded among presidents in my lifetime. Although I was pretty down on Clinton, Carter and Obama, the president I disliked most was and is Lyndon Johnson. There isn't enough room in a message board post for me to expound on how much I dislike him.

I don't share the optimism you have about Trump. I was happy with his SCOTUS choice and the kickstart on the business climate, but until the tax reform legislation, it hasn't been a stellar showing IMO. I am still not sure the tax bill is going to be a long term benefit, considering the cost, but if he follows through on some of the cuts and doesn't get to overspend elsewhere, there is a chance for it to work out. My stance on this administration, given it's volatile leader, is to expect the worst and pray for the best.

I see Nixon as a huge CF initiating the 'war on mary-j' and how that's played out to date.....I also view Clinton as the best attempting to 'level' socialism vs. economics in my lifetime.....

....completely agree with LBJ......he was kick-started the entire thingy we currently are dealing with.....

regardless, you're right......a bbs is hardly the place to post a dissertation....it's pointless...

btw, what part of the 'sip are you currently located.....fwiw, I'm still in the 'burg after 9 yrs. of Stl (43.6 here now)....
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I hope the GOP is half as vicious to the next democrat elected POTUS. Obama was a left wing socialist, but because he was also very corrupt and had a DOJ that took out his political enemies he was untouchable. If Trump does drain the swamp, hopefully the DOJ will once again become independent.
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