Still say the best course for Vanover is to red shirt. Seems like most here understand he won't contribute much next year, so why are so many against RSing him? He needs to add size to that frame of his, he is tall, not big in any sense of the word. He won't be able to play down low against D1 talent, he'll get pushed around with ease.

(02-27-2018 10:19 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(02-27-2018 10:01 AM)MEMPHIS TIGERS Wrote:  

(02-26-2018 10:09 PM)HometownTiger Wrote:  Connor Vanover
Myreon Jones, Wendell Mitchell, Tyler Harris (2 of the 3)

Would you be ok with it? What if its Jones and Mitchell?

Getting Mitchell is a complete waste.

And getting Mitchell and Jones might very well mean Jones gets redshirted.

Memphis will be returning all 80 minutes (plus) at the guard spots next year. Mitchell will be a junior and doesn't project to take minutes away from Martin or Brewton. And certainly won't take minutes away from Johnson.

So, I don't know where he'll get minutes, unless Tubby decides to use a three guard lineup next year--which then limits minutes to Davenport and the Nickel.

Memphis is already full at the 4/5 with Conover/Azab/Parks/Thornton/Enoh.

We can always use talent at every position ... If you can recruit a player that comes in and can play right away, then do it ... That being said, if you did get 2 of the 3 guards to commit; I doubt you see Martin here next year ... My guess would be that he would be a Grad transfer out of here ...

(02-28-2018 08:33 AM)DDrum1961 Wrote:  

(02-27-2018 10:19 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(02-27-2018 10:01 AM)MEMPHIS TIGERS Wrote:  

(02-26-2018 10:09 PM)HometownTiger Wrote:  Connor Vanover
Myreon Jones, Wendell Mitchell, Tyler Harris (2 of the 3)

Would you be ok with it? What if its Jones and Mitchell?

Getting Mitchell is a complete waste.

And getting Mitchell and Jones might very well mean Jones gets redshirted.

Memphis will be returning all 80 minutes (plus) at the guard spots next year. Mitchell will be a junior and doesn't project to take minutes away from Martin or Brewton. And certainly won't take minutes away from Johnson.

So, I don't know where he'll get minutes, unless Tubby decides to use a three guard lineup next year--which then limits minutes to Davenport and the Nickel.

Memphis is already full at the 4/5 with Conover/Azab/Parks/Thornton/Enoh.

We can always use talent at every position ... If you can recruit a player that comes in and can play right away, then do it ... That being said, if you did get 2 of the 3 guards to commit; I doubt you see Martin here next year ... My guess would be that he would be a Grad transfer out of here ...

Why do you say that? JM is going to get all of the minutes he wants, with the newbies backing him up.

(02-28-2018 08:33 AM)DDrum1961 Wrote:  

(02-27-2018 10:19 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(02-27-2018 10:01 AM)MEMPHIS TIGERS Wrote:  

(02-26-2018 10:09 PM)HometownTiger Wrote:  Connor Vanover
Myreon Jones, Wendell Mitchell, Tyler Harris (2 of the 3)

Would you be ok with it? What if its Jones and Mitchell?

Memphis is already full at the 4/5 with Conover/Azab/Parks/Thornton/Enoh.

We can always use talent at every position ... If you can recruit a player that comes in and can play right away, then do it ... That being said, if you did get 2 of the 3 guards to commit; I doubt you see Martin here next year ... My guess would be that he would be a Grad transfer out of here ...

Think it's past time to drop the Jeremiah might transfer talk. Mark G. reported that he is not on a path to graduate in 3 years anyway. Jason & John were the ones pushing that narrative. I'll let everyone decide on their own why they might have done that.

Martin should be back ... there are no Tubby issues and it's his team to run (as PG). He's a Tiger. I haven't heard anything lately about TJ Moss, and a little foot dragging would probably be a good idea this year considering ... maybe a GT would pop up ... or some trickle down surprise.

(02-27-2018 10:19 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(02-27-2018 10:01 AM)MEMPHIS TIGERS Wrote:  

(02-26-2018 10:09 PM)HometownTiger Wrote:  Connor Vanover
Myreon Jones, Wendell Mitchell, Tyler Harris (2 of the 3)

Would you be ok with it? What if its Jones and Mitchell?

Getting Mitchell is a complete waste.

And getting Mitchell and Jones might very well mean Jones gets redshirted.

Memphis will be returning all 80 minutes (plus) at the guard spots next year. Mitchell will be a junior and doesn't project to take minutes away from Martin or Brewton. And certainly won't take minutes away from Johnson.

So, I don't know where he'll get minutes, unless Tubby decides to use a three guard lineup next year--which then limits minutes to Davenport and the Nickel.

Memphis is already full at the 4/5 with Conover/Azab/Parks/Thornton/Enoh.

Mitchell is who we do need...We need to balance the roster and a Juco guards fits that bill for when Martin and Brewton leave and he will likely be much more ready to contribute than Malik was when he got here.

So now maybe Martins minutes goes down to low 30's, Johnsons and the guards gets some run at the 3 on occasion since Rivers will be gone.

This is not the dire picture you are trying to paint but it is likely a moot point because seems like some serious recruiters are on this kid.

(02-27-2018 09:24 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  He's essentially the 3rd string center behind Bol and Nathan Mensah.

That's where he belongs. FYI, he was at Arkansas Baptist. So a full year of practice against some high level players was going to be better than playing the AB game schedule.

(02-28-2018 10:21 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(02-27-2018 10:19 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(02-27-2018 10:01 AM)MEMPHIS TIGERS Wrote:  

(02-26-2018 10:09 PM)HometownTiger Wrote:  Connor Vanover
Myreon Jones, Wendell Mitchell, Tyler Harris (2 of the 3)

Would you be ok with it? What if its Jones and Mitchell?

Getting Mitchell is a complete waste.

And getting Mitchell and Jones might very well mean Jones gets redshirted.

Memphis will be returning all 80 minutes (plus) at the guard spots next year. Mitchell will be a junior and doesn't project to take minutes away from Martin or Brewton. And certainly won't take minutes away from Johnson.

So, I don't know where he'll get minutes, unless Tubby decides to use a three guard lineup next year--which then limits minutes to Davenport and the Nickel.

Memphis is already full at the 4/5 with Conover/Azab/Parks/Thornton/Enoh.

Mitchell is who we do need...We need to balance the roster and a Juco guards fits that bill for when Martin and Brewton leave and he will likely be much more ready to contribute than Malik was when he got here.

So now maybe Martins minutes goes down to low 30's, Johnsons and the guards gets some run at the 3 on occasion since Rivers will be gone.

This is not the dire picture you are trying to paint but it is likely a moot point because seems like some serious recruiters are on this kid.

It's the OPPOSITE of dire, goofball.

I am noting that Memphis is completely stacked at the 1 and 2. The level of talent being recruited doesn't seem to be good enough to take minutes away from those three.

At least with frosh, you can let them come along slowly, get a few minutes then move on after that and have three years to go.

With Mitchell, there is nothing to indicate he would jump the three in rotation, so 50% of his eligibility would be wasted on being the 4th guy. (Unless, like I ALREADY noted, Memphis goes to a 3 guard rotation).

But then you run into taking minutes away from Davenport and/or the Nickel if a guard starts getting a chunk of minutes at the three.

(02-28-2018 04:46 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(02-28-2018 10:21 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(02-27-2018 10:19 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(02-27-2018 10:01 AM)MEMPHIS TIGERS Wrote:  

(02-26-2018 10:09 PM)HometownTiger Wrote:  Connor Vanover
Myreon Jones, Wendell Mitchell, Tyler Harris (2 of the 3)

Would you be ok with it? What if its Jones and Mitchell?

Getting Mitchell is a complete waste.

And getting Mitchell and Jones might very well mean Jones gets redshirted.

Memphis will be returning all 80 minutes (plus) at the guard spots next year. Mitchell will be a junior and doesn't project to take minutes away from Martin or Brewton. And certainly won't take minutes away from Johnson.

So, I don't know where he'll get minutes, unless Tubby decides to use a three guard lineup next year--which then limits minutes to Davenport and the Nickel.

Memphis is already full at the 4/5 with Conover/Azab/Parks/Thornton/Enoh.

Mitchell is who we do need...We need to balance the roster and a Juco guards fits that bill for when Martin and Brewton leave and he will likely be much more ready to contribute than Malik was when he got here.

So now maybe Martins minutes goes down to low 30's, Johnsons and the guards gets some run at the 3 on occasion since Rivers will be gone.

This is not the dire picture you are trying to paint but it is likely a moot point because seems like some serious recruiters are on this kid.

It's the OPPOSITE of dire, goofball.

I am noting that Memphis is completely stacked at the 1 and 2. The level of talent being recruited doesn't seem to be good enough to take minutes away from those three.

At least with frosh, you can let them come along slowly, get a few minutes then move on after that and have three years to go.

With Mitchell, there is nothing to indicate he would jump the three in rotation, so 50% of his eligibility would be wasted on being the 4th guy. (Unless, like I ALREADY noted, Memphis goes to a 3 guard rotation).

But then you run into taking minutes away from Davenport and/or the Nickel if a guard starts getting a chunk of minutes at the three.

Agreed. Would a class of Jones, Harris and Vanover move the needle at all for you?

Harris, Jones, and Vanover + Jeremiah Martin, Davenport, Brewton, and Johnson...that would be a fun and talented team to watch loaded with upperclassmen and talented freshmen.

(02-28-2018 10:20 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  Harris, Jones, and Vanover + Jeremiah Martin, Davenport, Brewton, and Johnson...that would be a fun and talented team to watch loaded with upperclassmen and talented freshmen.

Don’t forget Parks.

(02-28-2018 10:34 PM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(02-28-2018 10:20 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  Harris, Jones, and Vanover + Jeremiah Martin, Davenport, Brewton, and Johnson...that would be a fun and talented team to watch loaded with upperclassmen and talented freshmen.

Don’t forget Parks.

the talent level would finally match the coaching level...that could be a fun ride.

(02-28-2018 06:02 PM)MEMPHIS TIGERS Wrote:  

(02-28-2018 04:46 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(02-28-2018 10:21 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(02-27-2018 10:19 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(02-27-2018 10:01 AM)MEMPHIS TIGERS Wrote:  Would you be ok with it? What if its Jones and Mitchell?

Getting Mitchell is a complete waste.

And getting Mitchell and Jones might very well mean Jones gets redshirted.

Memphis will be returning all 80 minutes (plus) at the guard spots next year. Mitchell will be a junior and doesn't project to take minutes away from Martin or Brewton. And certainly won't take minutes away from Johnson.

So, I don't know where he'll get minutes, unless Tubby decides to use a three guard lineup next year--which then limits minutes to Davenport and the Nickel.

Memphis is already full at the 4/5 with Conover/Azab/Parks/Thornton/Enoh.

Mitchell is who we do need...We need to balance the roster and a Juco guards fits that bill for when Martin and Brewton leave and he will likely be much more ready to contribute than Malik was when he got here.

So now maybe Martins minutes goes down to low 30's, Johnsons and the guards gets some run at the 3 on occasion since Rivers will be gone.

This is not the dire picture you are trying to paint but it is likely a moot point because seems like some serious recruiters are on this kid.

It's the OPPOSITE of dire, goofball.

I am noting that Memphis is completely stacked at the 1 and 2. The level of talent being recruited doesn't seem to be good enough to take minutes away from those three.

At least with frosh, you can let them come along slowly, get a few minutes then move on after that and have three years to go.

With Mitchell, there is nothing to indicate he would jump the three in rotation, so 50% of his eligibility would be wasted on being the 4th guy. (Unless, like I ALREADY noted, Memphis goes to a 3 guard rotation).

But then you run into taking minutes away from Davenport and/or the Nickel if a guard starts getting a chunk of minutes at the three.

Agreed. Would a class of Jones, Harris and Vanover move the needle at all for you?

It would be a good class. I don't think any of them would truly contribute much next year, BUT (assuming no one transfers) a core of Harris, Jones, Jamal, Nickel, and Enoh would be good.

But they better recruit some more beef....

(03-01-2018 09:36 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(02-28-2018 06:02 PM)MEMPHIS TIGERS Wrote:  

(02-28-2018 04:46 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(02-28-2018 10:21 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(02-27-2018 10:19 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  Getting Mitchell is a complete waste.

And getting Mitchell and Jones might very well mean Jones gets redshirted.

Memphis will be returning all 80 minutes (plus) at the guard spots next year. Mitchell will be a junior and doesn't project to take minutes away from Martin or Brewton. And certainly won't take minutes away from Johnson.

So, I don't know where he'll get minutes, unless Tubby decides to use a three guard lineup next year--which then limits minutes to Davenport and the Nickel.

Memphis is already full at the 4/5 with Conover/Azab/Parks/Thornton/Enoh.

Mitchell is who we do need...We need to balance the roster and a Juco guards fits that bill for when Martin and Brewton leave and he will likely be much more ready to contribute than Malik was when he got here.

So now maybe Martins minutes goes down to low 30's, Johnsons and the guards gets some run at the 3 on occasion since Rivers will be gone.

This is not the dire picture you are trying to paint but it is likely a moot point because seems like some serious recruiters are on this kid.

It's the OPPOSITE of dire, goofball.

I am noting that Memphis is completely stacked at the 1 and 2. The level of talent being recruited doesn't seem to be good enough to take minutes away from those three.

At least with frosh, you can let them come along slowly, get a few minutes then move on after that and have three years to go.

With Mitchell, there is nothing to indicate he would jump the three in rotation, so 50% of his eligibility would be wasted on being the 4th guy. (Unless, like I ALREADY noted, Memphis goes to a 3 guard rotation).

But then you run into taking minutes away from Davenport and/or the Nickel if a guard starts getting a chunk of minutes at the three.

Agreed. Would a class of Jones, Harris and Vanover move the needle at all for you?

It would be a good class. I don't think any of them would truly contribute much next year, BUT (assuming no one transfers) a core of Harris, Jones, Jamal, Nickel, and Enoh would be good.

But they better recruit some more beef....

We have all the Slim Jim coming that we need.

(03-01-2018 09:58 AM)holyterror Wrote:  

(03-01-2018 09:36 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(02-28-2018 06:02 PM)MEMPHIS TIGERS Wrote:  

(02-28-2018 04:46 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(02-28-2018 10:21 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  Mitchell is who we do need...We need to balance the roster and a Juco guards fits that bill for when Martin and Brewton leave and he will likely be much more ready to contribute than Malik was when he got here.

So now maybe Martins minutes goes down to low 30's, Johnsons and the guards gets some run at the 3 on occasion since Rivers will be gone.

This is not the dire picture you are trying to paint but it is likely a moot point because seems like some serious recruiters are on this kid.

It's the OPPOSITE of dire, goofball.

I am noting that Memphis is completely stacked at the 1 and 2. The level of talent being recruited doesn't seem to be good enough to take minutes away from those three.

At least with frosh, you can let them come along slowly, get a few minutes then move on after that and have three years to go.

With Mitchell, there is nothing to indicate he would jump the three in rotation, so 50% of his eligibility would be wasted on being the 4th guy. (Unless, like I ALREADY noted, Memphis goes to a 3 guard rotation).

But then you run into taking minutes away from Davenport and/or the Nickel if a guard starts getting a chunk of minutes at the three.

Agreed. Would a class of Jones, Harris and Vanover move the needle at all for you?

It would be a good class. I don't think any of them would truly contribute much next year, BUT (assuming no one transfers) a core of Harris, Jones, Jamal, Nickel, and Enoh would be good.

But they better recruit some more beef....

We have all the Slim Jim coming that we need.

Just hope no one snaps into him.

(03-01-2018 10:15 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(03-01-2018 09:58 AM)holyterror Wrote:  

(03-01-2018 09:36 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(02-28-2018 06:02 PM)MEMPHIS TIGERS Wrote:  

(02-28-2018 04:46 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  It's the OPPOSITE of dire, goofball.

I am noting that Memphis is completely stacked at the 1 and 2. The level of talent being recruited doesn't seem to be good enough to take minutes away from those three.

At least with frosh, you can let them come along slowly, get a few minutes then move on after that and have three years to go.

With Mitchell, there is nothing to indicate he would jump the three in rotation, so 50% of his eligibility would be wasted on being the 4th guy. (Unless, like I ALREADY noted, Memphis goes to a 3 guard rotation).

But then you run into taking minutes away from Davenport and/or the Nickel if a guard starts getting a chunk of minutes at the three.

Agreed. Would a class of Jones, Harris and Vanover move the needle at all for you?

It would be a good class. I don't think any of them would truly contribute much next year, BUT (assuming no one transfers) a core of Harris, Jones, Jamal, Nickel, and Enoh would be good.

But they better recruit some more beef....

We have all the Slim Jim coming that we need.

Just hope no one snaps into him.

That would be a Savage thing to do

I would be ecstatic if Tubby and his staff was able to land this class. I would be very disappointed in any other coach at Memphis landing it. That is what Tubby has done to us.

It would be fun to see Tyler...but only if he gets the green light to shoot.

(03-01-2018 09:58 AM)holyterror Wrote:  

(03-01-2018 09:36 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(02-28-2018 06:02 PM)MEMPHIS TIGERS Wrote:  

(02-28-2018 04:46 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(02-28-2018 10:21 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  Mitchell is who we do need...We need to balance the roster and a Juco guards fits that bill for when Martin and Brewton leave and he will likely be much more ready to contribute than Malik was when he got here.

So now maybe Martins minutes goes down to low 30's, Johnsons and the guards gets some run at the 3 on occasion since Rivers will be gone.

This is not the dire picture you are trying to paint but it is likely a moot point because seems like some serious recruiters are on this kid.

It's the OPPOSITE of dire, goofball.

I am noting that Memphis is completely stacked at the 1 and 2. The level of talent being recruited doesn't seem to be good enough to take minutes away from those three.

At least with frosh, you can let them come along slowly, get a few minutes then move on after that and have three years to go.

With Mitchell, there is nothing to indicate he would jump the three in rotation, so 50% of his eligibility would be wasted on being the 4th guy. (Unless, like I ALREADY noted, Memphis goes to a 3 guard rotation).

But then you run into taking minutes away from Davenport and/or the Nickel if a guard starts getting a chunk of minutes at the three.

Agreed. Would a class of Jones, Harris and Vanover move the needle at all for you?

It would be a good class. I don't think any of them would truly contribute much next year, BUT (assuming no one transfers) a core of Harris, Jones, Jamal, Nickel, and Enoh would be good.

But they better recruit some more beef....

We have all the Slim Jim coming that we need.

But what if the “slim jim” was the next Keith Lee?

(03-01-2018 03:26 PM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(03-01-2018 09:58 AM)holyterror Wrote:  

(03-01-2018 09:36 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(02-28-2018 06:02 PM)MEMPHIS TIGERS Wrote:  

(02-28-2018 04:46 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  It's the OPPOSITE of dire, goofball.

I am noting that Memphis is completely stacked at the 1 and 2. The level of talent being recruited doesn't seem to be good enough to take minutes away from those three.

At least with frosh, you can let them come along slowly, get a few minutes then move on after that and have three years to go.

With Mitchell, there is nothing to indicate he would jump the three in rotation, so 50% of his eligibility would be wasted on being the 4th guy. (Unless, like I ALREADY noted, Memphis goes to a 3 guard rotation).

But then you run into taking minutes away from Davenport and/or the Nickel if a guard starts getting a chunk of minutes at the three.

Agreed. Would a class of Jones, Harris and Vanover move the needle at all for you?

It would be a good class. I don't think any of them would truly contribute much next year, BUT (assuming no one transfers) a core of Harris, Jones, Jamal, Nickel, and Enoh would be good.

But they better recruit some more beef....

We have all the Slim Jim coming that we need.

But what if the “slim jim” was the next Keith Lee?

It's not 1980. They have this stuff called nutrition and weight rooms.