Rice Facebook says Graham is gone.

(04-20-2018 05:19 PM)illiniowl Wrote:  

(04-20-2018 04:07 PM)Antarius Wrote:  

(04-20-2018 01:53 PM)Frizzy Owl Wrote:  

(04-20-2018 01:38 PM)Antarius Wrote:  Arsene Wenger stepping down after this season.

https://www.arsenal.com/news/merci-arsene

Tangential, but a classy way to go out. We can learn something from this.

From that article, I can tell nothing about the circumstances behind it. Was Arsene allowed to resign? Well, so was Greenspan. Just sayin'.

Wenger has been coaching for forever. However over the last several years Arsenal has fallen behind their peers in the championship race. As a result, pressure has been building for a change.

Wenger either was told he was going to be fired at the end of the season and chose a graceful exit or came to the realization that this was it and stepped down.

This wasn't a scandal Greenspan thing. Aresenal isn't what it once was, but things aren't a flaming trainwreck... as a result, Wenger is going out on top and will be celebrated as a top coach.

Not an assessment shared by Gunners fans in the hilarious Arsenal Fan TV clips they like to show on Men in Blazers!

I confess to only casually following the Premier League through the aforementioned Men in Blazers but my impression has been that "Wenger Out!" signs and even skywriting have been quite prevalent for a few seasons now. I mean, is there not a sizable contingent of Arsenal supporters who feel that a year or two or more were wasted in waiting for Wenger to retire of his own accord?

I think you're being overly harsh on Wenger. After all, there may still be a St. Burnleyham's day this year...

(04-22-2018 07:38 AM)ETx Owl Wrote:  Rice Facebook says Graham is gone.

I can’t seem to find the Facebook post. Can u post a link?

(04-22-2018 10:01 AM)Owl1998 Wrote:  

(04-22-2018 07:38 AM)ETx Owl Wrote:  Rice Facebook says Graham is gone.

I can’t seem to find the Facebook post. Can u post a link?

I think maybe ETx Owl may be referring to the unofficial facebook group, which had a link to the same story:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/29093001...864807722/

I haven't seen anything on the official facebook groups.

Link to article referenced on Facebook:

http://www.collegebaseballdaily.com/2018...of-season/

My only comment on this is that it is the AD's job to anticipate and stay in front of the need for coaching changes. Karlgaad needs to work behind the scenes, of course, but also to take charge and demonstrate leadership publicly. Hopefully it is not too late.

realistically Rice should still be a great job for any baseball coach

(04-22-2018 11:00 AM)grol Wrote:  My only comment on this is that it is the AD's job to anticipate and stay in front of the need for coaching changes. Karlgaad needs to work behind the scenes, of course, but also to take charge and demonstrate leadership publicly. Hopefully it is not too late.

Too late for what?

(04-22-2018 11:26 AM)techdawg88 Wrote:  realistically Rice should still be a great job for any baseball coach

I think that the concern is that it now is a good job instead of a great job.

(04-22-2018 11:27 AM)Frizzy Owl Wrote:  

(04-22-2018 11:00 AM)grol Wrote:  My only comment on this is that it is the AD's job to anticipate and stay in front of the need for coaching changes. Karlgaad needs to work behind the scenes, of course, but also to take charge and demonstrate leadership publicly. Hopefully it is not too late.

Too late for what?

Emphasis added

(04-22-2018 03:50 PM)grol Wrote:  

(04-22-2018 11:27 AM)Frizzy Owl Wrote:  

(04-22-2018 11:00 AM)grol Wrote:  My only comment on this is that it is the AD's job to anticipate and stay in front of the need for coaching changes. Karlgaad needs to work behind the scenes, of course, but also to take charge and demonstrate leadership publicly. Hopefully it is not too late.

Too late for what?

Emphasis added

Ok, is he up against some sort of deadline?

(04-22-2018 03:47 PM)Tiki Owl Wrote:  

(04-22-2018 11:26 AM)techdawg88 Wrote:  realistically Rice should still be a great job for any baseball coach

I think that the concern is that it now is a good job instead of a great job.

Tiki, that is just not true, especially since we've got a ton of talent returning next season (perhaps, even Dom DiCap, as well at this point), along with arguably our best recruiting class since the Gray-Salinas-Chandler-Otto-Myers class of 4 years ago. Pitching should be off-the-chart good, especially if Moss and Ackers can stay healthy and Esquivel's elbow can finally rehab, and given we have two very highly regarded pitching recruits arriving on campus (including a southpaw!).

(04-22-2018 06:06 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  

(04-22-2018 03:47 PM)Tiki Owl Wrote:  

(04-22-2018 11:26 AM)techdawg88 Wrote:  realistically Rice should still be a great job for any baseball coach

I think that the concern is that it now is a good job instead of a great job.

Tiki, that is just not true, especially since we've got a ton of talent returning next season (perhaps, even Dom DiCap, as well at this point), along with arguably our best recruiting class since the Gray-Salinas-Chandler-Otto-Myers class of 4 years ago. Pitching should be off-the-chart good, especially if Moss and Ackers can stay healthy and Esquivel's elbow can finally rehab, and given we have two very highly regarded pitching recruits arriving on campus (including a southpaw!).

I don’t know how you can say we’re “loaded” next year when we suck right now. We’re 8 games under .500 right now. An improvement off this team would be top 5 in conference and a regional...

(04-22-2018 06:22 PM)ExcitedOwl18 Wrote:  

(04-22-2018 06:06 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  

(04-22-2018 03:47 PM)Tiki Owl Wrote:  

(04-22-2018 11:26 AM)techdawg88 Wrote:  realistically Rice should still be a great job for any baseball coach

I think that the concern is that it now is a good job instead of a great job.

Tiki, that is just not true, especially since we've got a ton of talent returning next season (perhaps, even Dom DiCap, as well at this point), along with arguably our best recruiting class since the Gray-Salinas-Chandler-Otto-Myers class of 4 years ago. Pitching should be off-the-chart good, especially if Moss and Ackers can stay healthy and Esquivel's elbow can finally rehab, and given we have two very highly regarded pitching recruits arriving on campus (including a southpaw!).

I don’t know how you can say we’re “loaded” next year when we suck right now. We’re 8 games under .500 right now. An improvement off this team would be top 5 in conference and a regional...

It isn’t just the lack of talent but the way we play. This while not as much as an attitude adjustment as Bloomgren is having to do, the attitude inside and outside needs to change. Crowds in the low 100’s isn’t going to attract a current top D1 coach. In the last 5 years this program has been past by quite a few teams that in the first 10 years of this century we regularly beat, like Texas Tech. We used to be a top national job now we hope to beat UH, Sam, DBU. Clearly the HS coaches aren’t as attracted to our program as they were. The recruiting dropped after Taylor/Pierce were replaced with coaches who had little experience in D1 and we paid for it. And what did that Gray et al class accomplish?

I wonder if Roger Clemens would consider Rice since he lives here already and has MLB coaching experience

(04-22-2018 07:34 PM)OldOwl Wrote:  I wonder if Roger Clemens would consider Rice since he lives here already and has MLB coaching experience

Bahahahahaha

(04-22-2018 06:22 PM)ExcitedOwl18 Wrote:  

(04-22-2018 06:06 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  

(04-22-2018 03:47 PM)Tiki Owl Wrote:  

(04-22-2018 11:26 AM)techdawg88 Wrote:  realistically Rice should still be a great job for any baseball coach

I think that the concern is that it now is a good job instead of a great job.

Tiki, that is just not true, especially since we've got a ton of talent returning next season (perhaps, even Dom DiCap, as well at this point), along with arguably our best recruiting class since the Gray-Salinas-Chandler-Otto-Myers class of 4 years ago. Pitching should be off-the-chart good, especially if Moss and Ackers can stay healthy and Esquivel's elbow can finally rehab, and given we have two very highly regarded pitching recruits arriving on campus (including a southpaw!).

I don’t know how you can say we’re “loaded” next year when we suck right now. We’re 8 games under .500 right now. An improvement off this team would be top 5 in conference and a regional...

Walt says we're "going to be loaded next year" at this time every year

(04-22-2018 08:35 PM)westsidewolf1989 Wrote:  

(04-22-2018 06:22 PM)ExcitedOwl18 Wrote:  

(04-22-2018 06:06 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  

(04-22-2018 03:47 PM)Tiki Owl Wrote:  

(04-22-2018 11:26 AM)techdawg88 Wrote:  realistically Rice should still be a great job for any baseball coach

I think that the concern is that it now is a good job instead of a great job.

Tiki, that is just not true, especially since we've got a ton of talent returning next season (perhaps, even Dom DiCap, as well at this point), along with arguably our best recruiting class since the Gray-Salinas-Chandler-Otto-Myers class of 4 years ago. Pitching should be off-the-chart good, especially if Moss and Ackers can stay healthy and Esquivel's elbow can finally rehab, and given we have two very highly regarded pitching recruits arriving on campus (including a southpaw!).

I don’t know how you can say we’re “loaded” next year when we suck right now. We’re 8 games under .500 right now. An improvement off this team would be top 5 in conference and a regional...

Walt says we're "going to be loaded next year" at this time every year

Rice was good partially because of Graham, but even more so because of the talent pipeline that Pierce/Taylor brought to the program. The decline clearly started when those two left.

Do we have any info other than the one tweet-length "article"?

(04-23-2018 09:32 AM)JustAnotherAustinOwlStill Wrote:  Do we have any info other than the one tweet-length "article"?

I have searched but found nothing yet.