http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketb...estigation

Hate to hear this, really like Sean Miller. If true, not good for him.

hes gone, lets burn this whole thing down

Not surprised with Miller at all.

So which bluebloods *haven’t* been named? Indiana?

(02-23-2018 10:56 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  Not surprised with Miller at all.

So which bluebloods *haven’t* been named? Indiana?

Stanford, because #StanfordNeverCheats

I'd expect massive self-probation across the NCAA on Monday.

Reminds me of this video:

I hate making consecutive posts here, indeed anywhere, but this video maybe the perfect allegory for the sport:

(02-23-2018 10:56 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  Not surprised with Miller at all.

So which bluebloods *haven’t* been named? Indiana?

No mention of Cuse...

Nobody told Sean that former OSU QB, Johnny Utah, was actually working undercover...

Just when things were turning...

(02-23-2018 11:27 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(02-23-2018 10:56 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  Not surprised with Miller at all.

So which bluebloods *haven’t* been named? Indiana?

No mention of Cuse...

Maybe it's not a coincidence that those are the two bluebloods that have had the roughest last couple years? (Because they're not buying recruits)

(02-24-2018 12:51 AM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  

(02-23-2018 11:27 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(02-23-2018 10:56 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  Not surprised with Miller at all.

So which bluebloods *haven’t* been named? Indiana?

No mention of Cuse...

Maybe it's not a coincidence that those are the two bluebloods that have had the roughest last couple years? (Because they're not buying recruits)

Plus Illinois, which would’ve been considered a blueblood alongside Syracuse and Arizona, until this decade.

(02-24-2018 02:16 AM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  

(02-24-2018 12:51 AM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  

(02-23-2018 11:27 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(02-23-2018 10:56 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  Not surprised with Miller at all.

So which bluebloods *haven’t* been named? Indiana?

No mention of Cuse...

Maybe it's not a coincidence that those are the two bluebloods that have had the roughest last couple years? (Because they're not buying recruits)

Plus Illinois, which would’ve been considered a blueblood alongside Syracuse and Arizona, until this decade.

I've been following college basketball since the 1950's. At no time would I ever have considered Illinois a blueblood.

(02-23-2018 11:44 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  Nobody told Sean that former OSU QB, Johnny Utah, was actually working undercover...

Johnny Utah would’ve gone Pro if he hadn’t hurt his leg in that Rose Bowl,against USC. That’s what Body said anyway.

(02-24-2018 08:59 AM)ken d Wrote:  

(02-24-2018 02:16 AM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  

(02-24-2018 12:51 AM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  

(02-23-2018 11:27 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(02-23-2018 10:56 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  Not surprised with Miller at all.

So which bluebloods *haven’t* been named? Indiana?

No mention of Cuse...

Maybe it's not a coincidence that those are the two bluebloods that have had the roughest last couple years? (Because they're not buying recruits)

Plus Illinois, which would’ve been considered a blueblood alongside Syracuse and Arizona, until this decade.

I've been following college basketball since the 1950's. At no time would I ever have considered Illinois a blueblood.

Illinois a blue blood? Bawhahaha...they had a nice run under Lou Hensen in the 80’s with Kendill Gill and Anderson where they finally made a final 4 but bluebolld? Hahahahaha

(02-24-2018 02:16 AM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  

(02-24-2018 12:51 AM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  

(02-23-2018 11:27 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(02-23-2018 10:56 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  Not surprised with Miller at all.

So which bluebloods *haven’t* been named? Indiana?

No mention of Cuse...:csnbbs:

Maybe it's not a coincidence that those are the two bluebloods that have had the roughest last couple years? (Because they're not buying recruits)

Plus Illinois, which would’ve been considered a blueblood alongside Syracuse and Arizona, until this decade.

Illinois blue blood? hmmmm No

Cuse is down due to scholarship restrictions....and early departures to the NBA

If no one leaves early they'll be Sweet 16 good next year...great class of Freshmen coming in

This isn’t a one-off. Miller paid for a lot of players. That’s really all he’s good for, because he’s not much of a coach

Not to get too off topic but yeah Illinois is not a blue blood in my opinion although they have a much better history than some people think. The 11 “elite” programs in my opinion are Duke, UNC, UCLA, Kentucky, Kansas, Indiana, Arizona, Louisville, Syracuse, Connecticut, and Michigan State.

(02-24-2018 11:11 AM)MKPitt Wrote:  Not to get too off topic but yeah Illinois is not a blue blood in my opinion although they have a much better history than some people think. The 11 “elite” programs in my opinion are Duke, UNC, UCLA, Kentucky, Kansas, Indiana, Arizona, Louisville, Syracuse, Connecticut, and Michigan State.

Agreed... Illinois is in the next batch of 15 or so teams with moderately long streaks of excellence

This has bigger implications than NCAA violations. This is tax evasion and bribery of public officials. AZ clearly, with its football and basketball issues, has a lack of institutional control.

Let's say school A is playing by the rules. Agents are illegally bribing players to leave early without reporting payments, agents are bribing state officials to get kids to school B, other schools are bribing players to come to their schools, and shoe companies are bribing kids to go to another school.

If I'm school A and I spent dozens of hours and $5000 traveling to Finland, bringing a kid in on an official visit from Finland, etc then I why can't I sue the agent, the shoe company, and the dirty coach who illegally paid the kid to go elsewhere for damages?

These people aren't violating NCAA rules; they're committing crimes.