If you want to spend some time trying to figure out why refs are calling certain things, you could watch this (Jordan Baker makes an appearance just after the 15 minute mark):
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Quote:The 2018 NIT will feature four rules modifications:
• The three-point line will be extended by approximately 1 foot 8 inches to the same distance used by FIBA for international competition (22 feet 1.75 inches).
• The free throw lane will be widened from 12 feet to 16 feet, consistent with the width used by the NBA.
• The games will be divided into four 10-minute quarters as opposed to two 20-minute halves. Teams will shoot two free throws beginning with the fifth foul of each quarter.
• The shot clock will reset to 20 seconds after an offensive rebound instead of the full 30 seconds.
Not a big fan of the shot-clock reset rule on offensive boards. If you can maintain possession after a miss, you've earned the right to a fresh 30. Besides, often those rebounds are a) turned into putbacks a second or two later, or b) three-point misses, and teams that get a lot of those are generally aren't likely to milk the shot clock anyway. I guess the most profound impact will be near the end of the game when a team is trying to hold on to a lead, but again, you get an offensive rebound on a critical possession, why should you get 10 less seconds to fritter away than you would if the opposing ballhandler dribbles it off his shoe?
The quarters rule was inevitable with the women's game going to it. Long overdue; nearly every other level of basketball does quarters, and there's really no strong argument for maintaining halves outside of tradition. Especially since with mandatory TV timeouts you've essentially divided the game into eighths anyway.
(02-27-2018 02:38 PM)Cyniclone Wrote: Not a big fan of the shot-clock reset rule on offensive boards. If you can maintain possession after a miss, you've earned the right to a fresh 30. Besides, often those rebounds are a) turned into putbacks a second or two later, or b) three-point misses, and teams that get a lot of those are generally aren't likely to milk the shot clock anyway. I guess the most profound impact will be near the end of the game when a team is trying to hold on to a lead, but again, you get an offensive rebound on a critical possession, why should you get 10 less seconds to fritter away than you would if the opposing ballhandler dribbles it off his shoe?
The quarters rule was inevitable with the women's game going to it. Long overdue; nearly every other level of basketball does quarters, and there's really no strong argument for maintaining halves outside of tradition. Especially since with mandatory TV timeouts you've essentially divided the game into eighths anyway.
By the same token, why do we need quarters? So they can make the freethrow rules more confusing? Tradition means something.
I agree that the 3 point line needs to move back. I think I am cool with the wider lane, and I agree that the shot clock rule is stupid.
(02-27-2018 02:38 PM)Cyniclone Wrote: Not a big fan of the shot-clock reset rule on offensive boards. If you can maintain possession after a miss, you've earned the right to a fresh 30. Besides, often those rebounds are a) turned into putbacks a second or two later, or b) three-point misses, and teams that get a lot of those are generally aren't likely to milk the shot clock anyway. I guess the most profound impact will be near the end of the game when a team is trying to hold on to a lead, but again, you get an offensive rebound on a critical possession, why should you get 10 less seconds to fritter away than you would if the opposing ballhandler dribbles it off his shoe?
The quarters rule was inevitable with the women's game going to it. Long overdue; nearly every other level of basketball does quarters, and there's really no strong argument for maintaining halves outside of tradition. Especially since with mandatory TV timeouts you've essentially divided the game into eighths anyway.
OTOH, you already have the ball in the frontcourt and don't have to spend time bringing it up the court. I actually think I like that rule to speed up possessions a little bit.
(02-27-2018 04:03 PM)Monarchblue Wrote: Why is everyone always trying to speed up possessions? Offense is already bad enough, we don't need to make it harder for them to get a good shot.
Offense has been getting much better as they work to speed up possessions. For the third consecutive season, free-throw percentage and 3-point attempts are at all-time highs. For the second consecutive season, 2-point percentage is at an all-time high. And 3-point percentage is the highest it’s been since the line was moved to its current location 10 seasons ago.
(02-27-2018 04:03 PM)Monarchblue Wrote: Why is everyone always trying to speed up possessions? Offense is already bad enough, we don't need to make it harder for them to get a good shot.
Offense has been getting much better as they work to speed up possessions. For the third consecutive season, free-throw percentage and 3-point attempts are at all-time highs. For the second consecutive season, 2-point percentage is at an all-time high. And 3-point percentage is the highest it’s been since the line was moved to its current location 10 seasons ago.
And offense consists of watching 100 pick & rolls per game.
(02-27-2018 04:03 PM)Monarchblue Wrote: Why is everyone always trying to speed up possessions? Offense is already bad enough, we don't need to make it harder for them to get a good shot.
Offense has been getting much better as they work to speed up possessions. For the third consecutive season, free-throw percentage and 3-point attempts are at all-time highs. For the second consecutive season, 2-point percentage is at an all-time high. And 3-point percentage is the highest it’s been since the line was moved to its current location 10 seasons ago.
And offense consists of watching 100 pick & rolls per game.
(02-27-2018 04:03 PM)Monarchblue Wrote: Why is everyone always trying to speed up possessions? Offense is already bad enough, we don't need to make it harder for them to get a good shot.
Offense has been getting much better as they work to speed up possessions. For the third consecutive season, free-throw percentage and 3-point attempts are at all-time highs. For the second consecutive season, 2-point percentage is at an all-time high. And 3-point percentage is the highest it’s been since the line was moved to its current location 10 seasons ago.
And offense consists of watching 100 pick & rolls per game.
That's a fair point.
Until something better comes along or the rules change, thats what you are going to get.
(02-27-2018 04:03 PM)Monarchblue Wrote: Why is everyone always trying to speed up possessions? Offense is already bad enough, we don't need to make it harder for them to get a good shot.
Offense has been getting much better as they work to speed up possessions. For the third consecutive season, free-throw percentage and 3-point attempts are at all-time highs. For the second consecutive season, 2-point percentage is at an all-time high. And 3-point percentage is the highest it’s been since the line was moved to its current location 10 seasons ago.
And offense consists of watching 100 pick & rolls per game.
That's a fair point.
Until something better comes along or the rules change, thats what you are going to get.
Don't see it much against zones which is one of several reasons I would like to see ODU play more of it than they do.
(02-27-2018 04:03 PM)Monarchblue Wrote: Why is everyone always trying to speed up possessions? Offense is already bad enough, we don't need to make it harder for them to get a good shot.
They want to speed up the game so more offense is played. Mid-majors use good defense as an equalizer against sharp shooting P5s. The NCAA probably recognizes that and therefore will act quickly to put a stop to it. :)
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(02-27-2018 04:03 PM)Monarchblue Wrote: Why is everyone always trying to speed up possessions? Offense is already bad enough, we don't need to make it harder for them to get a good shot.
They want to speed up the game so more offense is played. Mid-majors use good defense as an equalizer against sharp shooting P5s. The NCAA probably recognizes that and therefore will act quickly to put a stop to it. :)
(02-27-2018 04:03 PM)Monarchblue Wrote: Why is everyone always trying to speed up possessions? Offense is already bad enough, we don't need to make it harder for them to get a good shot.
They want to speed up the game so more offense is played. Mid-majors use good defense as an equalizer against sharp shooting P5s. The NCAA probably recognizes that and therefore will act quickly to put a stop to it. :)
I know this was tongue in cheek, but the constantly shortening shot clock is the reason a team like Virginia can be a top 5 team every year. The less time teams have to run offense against them, the more we will see teams scoring 13 points in a half. Reality is if a team is as committed to playing that level of defense, it will become next to impossible to score against them if the shot clock keeps getting shorter.
(02-27-2018 04:03 PM)Monarchblue Wrote: Why is everyone always trying to speed up possessions? Offense is already bad enough, we don't need to make it harder for them to get a good shot.
They want to speed up the game so more offense is played. Mid-majors use good defense as an equalizer against sharp shooting P5s. The NCAA probably recognizes that and therefore will act quickly to put a stop to it. :)
I know this was tongue in cheek, but the constantly shortening shot clock is the reason a team like Virginia can be a top 5 team every year. The less time teams have to run offense against them, the more we will see teams scoring 13 points in a half. Reality is if a team is as committed to playing that level of defense, it will become next to impossible to score against them if the shot clock keeps getting shorter.
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Alternately, does a longer shot clock give Virginia opponents fewer possessions? The way they play D, you could give opponents a minute per possession and it probably wouldn't do them much good.
(02-27-2018 04:03 PM)Monarchblue Wrote: Why is everyone always trying to speed up possessions? Offense is already bad enough, we don't need to make it harder for them to get a good shot.
They want to speed up the game so more offense is played. Mid-majors use good defense as an equalizer against sharp shooting P5s. The NCAA probably recognizes that and therefore will act quickly to put a stop to it. :)
I know this was tongue in cheek, but the constantly shortening shot clock is the reason a team like Virginia can be a top 5 team every year. The less time teams have to run offense against them, the more we will see teams scoring 13 points in a half. Reality is if a team is as committed to playing that level of defense, it will become next to impossible to score against them if the shot clock keeps getting shorter.
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Alternately, does a longer shot clock give Virginia opponents fewer possessions? The way they play D, you could give opponents a minute per possession and it probably wouldn't do them much good.
But if you had to defend at the level of effort and concentration for 45 seconds it would be very difficult to maintain. Of course there is also the fact that the shorter clock means less opportunity to move the ball until you get someone out of position as well.
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