(02-21-2018 10:54 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: Still waiting for the source of one thing in the dossier that's been proven to be fake...other than your orange overlord telling you so on twitter while he takes a dump at 4 a.m.
Really? The Mach defense? Nothing in the dossier has been proven true. However, a great number of facts in the dossier have been proven false. Any witness that has been proven wrong as many times as the dossier would have zero credibility. The reality? The biggest charge in the dossier HAS been proven false as Mr Mueller has said no American citizen knowingly conspired or colluded with the Russians.
The Dossier is over.
Wrong. I've posted them several times. I ain't doing it again because you guys are oblivious to fact and reason. Has it all been proven? No, of course not. Never said otherwise.
Again---NONE of it has been proven. NONE. It cant be VERIFIED because its unsourced allegations. It has been PROVEN wrong on MANY factual counts that CAN be verified. Finally, the Mueller investigation--which you yourself have pointed to as the final word on the issue---has said the biggest charge in the dossier (collusion) didnt happen.
The only thing new is you no longer are pretending to be a unbiased bystander simply waiting to see how it plays out. You've now revealed yourself to be no better than Mach on this issue. Just another Rachel Madow MSNBC viewer who is convinced that impeachment proceedings will start within a week or so. Sad.
(This post was last modified: 02-21-2018 12:38 PM by Attackcoog.)
(02-21-2018 10:54 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: Still waiting for the source of one thing in the dossier that's been proven to be fake...other than your orange overlord telling you so on twitter while he takes a dump at 4 a.m.
Really? The Mach defense? Nothing in the dossier has been proven true. However, a great number of facts in the dossier have been proven false. Any witness that has been proven wrong as many times as the dossier would have zero credibility. The reality? The biggest charge in the dossier HAS been proven false as Mr Mueller has said no American citizen knowingly conspired or colluded with the Russians.
The Dossier is over.
Wrong. I've posted them several times. I ain't doing it again because you guys are oblivious to fact and reason. Has it all been proven? No, of course not. Never said otherwise.
(02-21-2018 10:54 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: Still waiting for the source of one thing in the dossier that's been proven to be fake...other than your orange overlord telling you so on twitter while he takes a dump at 4 a.m.
Really? The Mach defense? Nothing in the dossier has been proven true. However, a great number of facts in the dossier have been proven false. Any witness that has been proven wrong as many times as the dossier would have zero credibility. The reality? The biggest charge in the dossier HAS been proven false as Mr Mueller has said no American citizen knowingly conspired or colluded with the Russians.
The Dossier is over.
Wrong. I've posted them several times. I ain't doing it again because you guys are oblivious to fact and reason. Has it all been proven? No, of course not. Never said otherwise.
Again---NONE of it has been proven. NONE. It has been PROVEN wrong on MANY factual counts that CAN be verified. Finally, the Mueller investigation--which you yourself have pointed to as the final word on the issue has said the biggest charge in the dossier (collusion) didnt happen.
The only thing new is you no longer are pretending to be a unbiased bystander simply waiting to see how it plays out. You've now revealed yourself to be no better than Mach on this issue. Just another Rachel Madow MSNBC viewer who is convinced that impeachment proceedings will start within a week or so. Sad.
Ridiculous. Hate to break this to you, but collusion has not been claimed by anybody affiliated with the Mueller investigation to not have happened. Now, they haven't claimed it has yet either, but they're not done. You'd be wise to stop reading and trusting the tweets from your demented orange overlord.
(02-21-2018 10:54 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: Still waiting for the source of one thing in the dossier that's been proven to be fake...other than your orange overlord telling you so on twitter while he takes a dump at 4 a.m.
Really? The Mach defense? Nothing in the dossier has been proven true. However, a great number of facts in the dossier have been proven false. Any witness that has been proven wrong as many times as the dossier would have zero credibility. The reality? The biggest charge in the dossier HAS been proven false as Mr Mueller has said no American citizen knowingly conspired or colluded with the Russians.
The Dossier is over.
Wrong. I've posted them several times. I ain't doing it again because you guys are oblivious to fact and reason. Has it all been proven? No, of course not. Never said otherwise.
How about this; Anyone here provides proof that one of the most criminal acts in the dossier is a lie and you don’t show up here again until Trump is impeached.
(02-21-2018 10:54 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: Still waiting for the source of one thing in the dossier that's been proven to be fake...other than your orange overlord telling you so on twitter while he takes a dump at 4 a.m.
Really? The Mach defense? Nothing in the dossier has been proven true. However, a great number of facts in the dossier have been proven false. Any witness that has been proven wrong as many times as the dossier would have zero credibility. The reality? The biggest charge in the dossier HAS been proven false as Mr Mueller has said no American citizen knowingly conspired or colluded with the Russians.
The Dossier is over.
Wrong. I've posted them several times. I ain't doing it again because you guys are oblivious to fact and reason. Has it all been proven? No, of course not. Never said otherwise.
Again---NONE of it has been proven. NONE. It has been PROVEN wrong on MANY factual counts that CAN be verified. Finally, the Mueller investigation--which you yourself have pointed to as the final word on the issue has said the biggest charge in the dossier (collusion) didnt happen.
The only thing new is you no longer are pretending to be a unbiased bystander simply waiting to see how it plays out. You've now revealed yourself to be no better than Mach on this issue. Just another Rachel Madow MSNBC viewer who is convinced that impeachment proceedings will start within a week or so. Sad.
Ridiculous. Hate to break this to you, but collusion has not been claimed by anybody affiliated with the Mueller investigation to not have happened. Now, they haven't claimed it has yet either, but they're not done. You'd be wise to stop reading and trusting the tweets from your demented orange overlord.
lol. You need to watch something other than MSNBC. It's actually stated in the recent Mueller indictment. When a largely anti-Trump article from The Hill and Fox News agree---I think we are talking about an udisputed fact. Even in announcing the indictment, the spokesperson specifically states that any cooperation by American citizens was unwitting and they were unaware of the Russian plot.
Despite a 37-page indictment with a long narrative on a coordinated Russian campaign of interference, the most newsworthy fact comes from the carefully placed adjective “unwitting.” It confirms that the special counsel has found no knowing coordination or collusion between these hackers and Trump officials. The indictment names 13 Russian nationals and three Russian entities in alleged interference in the 2016 presidential election. It describes a coordinated effort by Russians, including the shadowy Internet Research Agency, to wage “information warfare” against the United States.
Mueller is basically telling the nation whats going on. The Russians are using our own political divisions as a weapon. This has nothing to do with who wins an election. They dont care. It has to do with keeping us divided and paralyzed.
(This post was last modified: 02-21-2018 12:58 PM by Attackcoog.)
(02-21-2018 11:52 AM)Attackcoog Wrote: Really? The Mach defense? Nothing in the dossier has been proven true. However, a great number of facts in the dossier have been proven false. Any witness that has been proven wrong as many times as the dossier would have zero credibility. The reality? The biggest charge in the dossier HAS been proven false as Mr Mueller has said no American citizen knowingly conspired or colluded with the Russians.
The Dossier is over.
Wrong. I've posted them several times. I ain't doing it again because you guys are oblivious to fact and reason. Has it all been proven? No, of course not. Never said otherwise.
Again---NONE of it has been proven. NONE. It has been PROVEN wrong on MANY factual counts that CAN be verified. Finally, the Mueller investigation--which you yourself have pointed to as the final word on the issue has said the biggest charge in the dossier (collusion) didnt happen.
The only thing new is you no longer are pretending to be a unbiased bystander simply waiting to see how it plays out. You've now revealed yourself to be no better than Mach on this issue. Just another Rachel Madow MSNBC viewer who is convinced that impeachment proceedings will start within a week or so. Sad.
Ridiculous. Hate to break this to you, but collusion has not been claimed by anybody affiliated with the Mueller investigation to not have happened. Now, they haven't claimed it has yet either, but they're not done. You'd be wise to stop reading and trusting the tweets from your demented orange overlord.
lol. You need to watch something other than MSNBC. It's actually stated in the recent Mueller indictment.
Despite a 37-page indictment with a long narrative on a coordinated Russian campaign of interference, the most newsworthy fact comes from the carefully placed adjective “unwitting.” It confirms that the special counsel has found no knowing coordination or collusion between these hackers and Trump officials. The indictment names 13 Russian nationals and three Russian entities in alleged interference in the 2016 presidential election. It describes a coordinated effort by Russians, including the shadowy Internet Research Agency, to wage “information warfare” against the United States.
(02-21-2018 12:08 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: Wrong. I've posted them several times. I ain't doing it again because you guys are oblivious to fact and reason. Has it all been proven? No, of course not. Never said otherwise.
Again---NONE of it has been proven. NONE. It has been PROVEN wrong on MANY factual counts that CAN be verified. Finally, the Mueller investigation--which you yourself have pointed to as the final word on the issue has said the biggest charge in the dossier (collusion) didnt happen.
The only thing new is you no longer are pretending to be a unbiased bystander simply waiting to see how it plays out. You've now revealed yourself to be no better than Mach on this issue. Just another Rachel Madow MSNBC viewer who is convinced that impeachment proceedings will start within a week or so. Sad.
Ridiculous. Hate to break this to you, but collusion has not been claimed by anybody affiliated with the Mueller investigation to not have happened. Now, they haven't claimed it has yet either, but they're not done. You'd be wise to stop reading and trusting the tweets from your demented orange overlord.
lol. You need to watch something other than MSNBC. It's actually stated in the recent Mueller indictment.
Despite a 37-page indictment with a long narrative on a coordinated Russian campaign of interference, the most newsworthy fact comes from the carefully placed adjective “unwitting.” It confirms that the special counsel has found no knowing coordination or collusion between these hackers and Trump officials. The indictment names 13 Russian nationals and three Russian entities in alleged interference in the 2016 presidential election. It describes a coordinated effort by Russians, including the shadowy Internet Research Agency, to wage “information warfare” against the United States.
(02-21-2018 12:08 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: Wrong. I've posted them several times. I ain't doing it again because you guys are oblivious to fact and reason. Has it all been proven? No, of course not. Never said otherwise.
Again---NONE of it has been proven. NONE. It has been PROVEN wrong on MANY factual counts that CAN be verified. Finally, the Mueller investigation--which you yourself have pointed to as the final word on the issue has said the biggest charge in the dossier (collusion) didnt happen.
The only thing new is you no longer are pretending to be a unbiased bystander simply waiting to see how it plays out. You've now revealed yourself to be no better than Mach on this issue. Just another Rachel Madow MSNBC viewer who is convinced that impeachment proceedings will start within a week or so. Sad.
Ridiculous. Hate to break this to you, but collusion has not been claimed by anybody affiliated with the Mueller investigation to not have happened. Now, they haven't claimed it has yet either, but they're not done. You'd be wise to stop reading and trusting the tweets from your demented orange overlord.
lol. You need to watch something other than MSNBC. It's actually stated in the recent Mueller indictment.
Despite a 37-page indictment with a long narrative on a coordinated Russian campaign of interference, the most newsworthy fact comes from the carefully placed adjective “unwitting.” It confirms that the special counsel has found no knowing coordination or collusion between these hackers and Trump officials. The indictment names 13 Russian nationals and three Russian entities in alleged interference in the 2016 presidential election. It describes a coordinated effort by Russians, including the shadowy Internet Research Agency, to wage “information warfare” against the United States.
AGAIN, that's one indictment in a huge investigation that is still on going. No Mueller official has cleared trump of collusion yet. NONE!
lol....They dont typically publicly announce that your are cleared. They announce indictments. You are correct the investigation isnt over (though I suspect the "collusion" part is). They are certainly still investigating obstruction and financial activities....perhaps even illegal tapping and obstruction of justice back during the Obama administration. They can investigate anything they run across and I suspect some nuggets from the prior administration have been strategically dropped in their lap during this investigation. Mueller's mandate is ridiculously broad.
(This post was last modified: 02-21-2018 01:05 PM by Attackcoog.)
(02-21-2018 12:08 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: Wrong. I've posted them several times. I ain't doing it again because you guys are oblivious to fact and reason. Has it all been proven? No, of course not. Never said otherwise.
Again---NONE of it has been proven. NONE. It has been PROVEN wrong on MANY factual counts that CAN be verified. Finally, the Mueller investigation--which you yourself have pointed to as the final word on the issue has said the biggest charge in the dossier (collusion) didnt happen.
The only thing new is you no longer are pretending to be a unbiased bystander simply waiting to see how it plays out. You've now revealed yourself to be no better than Mach on this issue. Just another Rachel Madow MSNBC viewer who is convinced that impeachment proceedings will start within a week or so. Sad.
Ridiculous. Hate to break this to you, but collusion has not been claimed by anybody affiliated with the Mueller investigation to not have happened. Now, they haven't claimed it has yet either, but they're not done. You'd be wise to stop reading and trusting the tweets from your demented orange overlord.
lol. You need to watch something other than MSNBC. It's actually stated in the recent Mueller indictment.
Despite a 37-page indictment with a long narrative on a coordinated Russian campaign of interference, the most newsworthy fact comes from the carefully placed adjective “unwitting.” It confirms that the special counsel has found no knowing coordination or collusion between these hackers and Trump officials. The indictment names 13 Russian nationals and three Russian entities in alleged interference in the 2016 presidential election. It describes a coordinated effort by Russians, including the shadowy Internet Research Agency, to wage “information warfare” against the United States.
Now, speaking like adults, what would it take to have both houses of congress impeach and remove Trump? That's just short of political suicide, no, so the crime would have to be horrific.
I think at a minimum it would take clear and compelling evidence that Trump and Putin conspired to throw the election. So far, squat.
You dims need to come up with a more realistic wet dream, and while you're at, try to show at least a tiny bit of shame for what Cankles & Crew tried but failed........throwing the election.
(02-21-2018 01:07 PM)TechRocks Wrote: Now, speaking like adults, what would it take to have both houses of congress impeach and remove Trump? That's just short of political suicide, no, so the crime would have to be horrific.
I think at a minimum it would take clear and compelling evidence that Trump and Putin conspired to throw the election. So far, squat.
You dims need to come up with a more realistic wet dream, and while you're at, try to show at least a tiny bit of shame for what Cankles & Crew tried but failed........throwing the election.
Yup, the Russians would love to see impeachment hearings and a vote to impeach. Its basically the aim of the whole Russian program.
(This post was last modified: 02-21-2018 01:33 PM by Attackcoog.)
FWIW - I've said on record probably a dozen times that I do not want him impeached. I'd rather he just resign in disgrace.
Additionally, if the Mueller investigation ends with no finding of collusion, I have no problem whatsoever agreeing with that decision as long as nothing shady is unearthed...and I don't expect there to be.
(This post was last modified: 02-21-2018 02:39 PM by Redwingtom.)
(02-21-2018 02:39 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: FWIW - I've said on record probably a dozen times that I do not want him impeached. I'd rather he just resign in disgrace.
Additionally, if the Mueller investigation ends with no finding of collusion, I have no problem whatsoever agreeing with that decision as long as nothing shady is unearthed...and I don't expect there to be.
In that case, would you conclude that it was a useful expenditure of time and money? Just asking.
(02-21-2018 02:39 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: FWIW - I've said on record probably a dozen times that I do not want him impeached. I'd rather he just resign in disgrace.
Additionally, if the Mueller investigation ends with no finding of collusion, I have no problem whatsoever agreeing with that decision as long as nothing shady is unearthed...and I don't expect there to be.
In that case, would you conclude that it was a useful expenditure of time and money? Just asking.
Based on the indictment of the 13 Russians and those 3 companies. YOU BETCHA! As was mentioned earlier or in another thread, this investigation was into Russian meddling, not trump collusion.
Hopefully we got this and will get the rest done in time to try and limit the Russian impact this November. That is if our worthless excuse for a defender of America and the Constitution president actually follows his oath of office!
(02-21-2018 02:39 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: FWIW - I've said on record probably a dozen times that I do not want him impeached. I'd rather he just resign in disgrace.
Additionally, if the Mueller investigation ends with no finding of collusion, I have no problem whatsoever agreeing with that decision as long as nothing shady is unearthed...and I don't expect there to be.
In that case, would you conclude that it was a useful expenditure of time and money? Just asking.
Based on the indictment of the 13 Russians and those 3 companies. YOU BETCHA! As was mentioned earlier or in another thread, this investigation was into Russian meddling, not trump collusion.
Hopefully we got this and will get the rest done in time to try and limit the Russian impact this November. That is if our worthless excuse for a defender of America and the Constitution president actually follows his oath of office!
Uh, you do realize this scheme started in 2014, don't ya?
(02-21-2018 02:39 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: FWIW - I've said on record probably a dozen times that I do not want him impeached. I'd rather he just resign in disgrace.
Additionally, if the Mueller investigation ends with no finding of collusion, I have no problem whatsoever agreeing with that decision as long as nothing shady is unearthed...and I don't expect there to be.
In that case, would you conclude that it was a useful expenditure of time and money? Just asking.
Based on the indictment of the 13 Russians and those 3 companies. YOU BETCHA! As was mentioned earlier or in another thread, this investigation was into Russian meddling, not trump collusion.
Hopefully we got this and will get the rest done in time to try and limit the Russian impact this November. That is if our worthless excuse for a defender of America and the Constitution president actually follows his oath of office!
An indictment of 13 people over whom we have little to no chance of obtaining jurisdiction. What does that accomplish?
And what do you want Trump to do?
I mean FFS, what do you expect to do to change anything about this? We do it to them, they do it to us, that's how the game has been played since the Trojan Horse.
(02-21-2018 10:45 AM)TechRocks Wrote: Nothing short of amazing how many greasy-fingered dims were involved in this scam.
Hence:
Hillary Clinton: ‘If that f-ing bastard Trump wins, we all hang from nooses’
She knew all along!!
Cheated out the a$$...........................and still lost!!!
In the interest of being fair and balanced, there's some doubt that Hillary ever said such a thing, though I have no doubt the thought flashed through her mind, and that of many others who were hoping their crimes would never come to light.
(02-21-2018 02:39 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: FWIW - I've said on record probably a dozen times that I do not want him impeached. I'd rather he just resign in disgrace.
Additionally, if the Mueller investigation ends with no finding of collusion, I have no problem whatsoever agreeing with that decision as long as nothing shady is unearthed...and I don't expect there to be.
In that case, would you conclude that it was a useful expenditure of time and money? Just asking.
Based on the indictment of the 13 Russians and those 3 companies. YOU BETCHA! As was mentioned earlier or in another thread, this investigation was into Russian meddling, not trump collusion.
Hopefully we got this and will get the rest done in time to try and limit the Russian impact this November. That is if our worthless excuse for a defender of America and the Constitution president actually follows his oath of office!
Uh, you do realize this scheme started in 2014, don't ya?
(02-21-2018 02:39 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: FWIW - I've said on record probably a dozen times that I do not want him impeached. I'd rather he just resign in disgrace.
Additionally, if the Mueller investigation ends with no finding of collusion, I have no problem whatsoever agreeing with that decision as long as nothing shady is unearthed...and I don't expect there to be.
In that case, would you conclude that it was a useful expenditure of time and money? Just asking.
Based on the indictment of the 13 Russians and those 3 companies. YOU BETCHA! As was mentioned earlier or in another thread, this investigation was into Russian meddling, not trump collusion.
Hopefully we got this and will get the rest done in time to try and limit the Russian impact this November. That is if our worthless excuse for a defender of America and the Constitution president actually follows his oath of office!
(02-21-2018 02:39 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: FWIW - I've said on record probably a dozen times that I do not want him impeached. I'd rather he just resign in disgrace.
Additionally, if the Mueller investigation ends with no finding of collusion, I have no problem whatsoever agreeing with that decision as long as nothing shady is unearthed...and I don't expect there to be.
In that case, would you conclude that it was a useful expenditure of time and money? Just asking.
Based on the indictment of the 13 Russians and those 3 companies. YOU BETCHA! As was mentioned earlier or in another thread, this investigation was into Russian meddling, not trump collusion.
Hopefully we got this and will get the rest done in time to try and limit the Russian impact this November. That is if our worthless excuse for a defender of America and the Constitution president actually follows his oath of office!
And what do you want Trump to do?
His ******* job for starters!
I was kind of hoping for something specific. As in, what specifically do you consider to be part of his job that he is not doing? As in, specific acts? And how would you expect that to change things?
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