(02-20-2018 09:22 PM)k2tigers Wrote:  

(02-20-2018 08:23 PM)memphistiger89 Wrote:  Louisville getting the hammer just goes to show the NCAA wouldn't have thought twice about stripping Memphis of the title if Chalmers had missed that shot.

shocked that it took 37 posts to mention that

Louisville seems MEH about the vacation from what I read. They don't really care if it's "vacated" because they saw their team win the championship and had a parade.

I suppose we would feel the same about it if Memphis had won. The Chalmers shot really hurt at the time and I will never forget it. I would much rather see Memphis win the Championship regardless of the season being vacated years later.

(02-20-2018 09:28 PM)MemphisTigers2009 Wrote:  

(02-20-2018 09:22 PM)k2tigers Wrote:  

(02-20-2018 08:23 PM)memphistiger89 Wrote:  Louisville getting the hammer just goes to show the NCAA wouldn't have thought twice about stripping Memphis of the title if Chalmers had missed that shot.

shocked that it took 37 posts to mention that

Louisville seems MEH about the vacation from what I read. They don't really care if it's "vacated" because they saw their team win the championship and had a parade.

I suppose we would feel the same about it if Memphis had won. The Chalmers shot really hurt at the time and I will never forget it. I would much rather see Memphis win the Championship period.

I know we are suppose to hate louisville.
But F the NCAA!
Another example of their institution being a joke

(02-20-2018 01:51 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(02-20-2018 01:44 PM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  Not that it truly matters but I never thought they would vacate a national champion.

So there's that.

Nor I.

Me too

They come out better than we did because NO PROBATION. It's not fair and equitable especially considering the offenses. DeCourcey is rightfully furious-article below. We got s*** on.

https://t.co/Lo4O3mUPFI

Will Pitino get rid of his tat.

(02-20-2018 09:58 PM)Bsquared-2 Wrote:  

(02-20-2018 01:51 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(02-20-2018 01:44 PM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  Not that it truly matters but I never thought they would vacate a national champion.

So there's that.

Nor I.

Me too

Which would you guys rather have vacate games already played (and remembered) or probation the next season. I take the vacate any time.

(02-20-2018 07:31 PM)DburgCat Wrote:  

(02-20-2018 03:52 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  University of Kentucky Basketball — Probation, 1989-1992: An investigation of Eric Manuel, who was suspected of cheating on a college entrance exam, led to the uncovering of numerous NCAA violations committed by Eddie Sutton's program. Not only was it discovered that Manuel had partaken in academic fraud by cheating on his ACT, but it was revealed that assistant coach Dwane Casey sent an envelope containing $1,000 in cash was sent to Chris Mills' father — this coming as the program was already on probation for paying recruits. Kentucky narrowly avoided the death penalty, receiving three years' probation, a two-year ban from postseason and a one-year ban from live television.

The cash envelope was a setup. And really, look at those allegations and think about UNC and Louisville today. Those incidences wouldnt be a drop of water in the bucket today.

You should check in with your doctor. There are many new medications out that will help you with your delusions.

(02-20-2018 07:31 PM)DburgCat Wrote:  

(02-20-2018 03:52 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  University of Kentucky Basketball — Probation, 1989-1992: An investigation of Eric Manuel, who was suspected of cheating on a college entrance exam, led to the uncovering of numerous NCAA violations committed by Eddie Sutton's program. Not only was it discovered that Manuel had partaken in academic fraud by cheating on his ACT, but it was revealed that assistant coach Dwane Casey sent an envelope containing $1,000 in cash was sent to Chris Mills' father — this coming as the program was already on probation for paying recruits. Kentucky narrowly avoided the death penalty, receiving three years' probation, a two-year ban from postseason and a one-year ban from live television.

The cash envelope was a setup. And really, look at those allegations and think about UNC and Louisville today. Those incidences wouldnt be a drop of water in the bucket today.

You are correct. Boosters for KY perfected the set-up and transfer of funds to off shore accounts for their recruits.

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So, does Michigan get to hang a 2013 championship banner now?

(02-20-2018 07:33 PM)DburgCat Wrote:  

(02-20-2018 03:51 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  Kentucky was the first basketball program to receive the death penalty, and it was well-deserved. The most serious issue that a sports team or organization can face is the influence of gambling and the game's resulting loss of integrity, so when it was revealed that Alex Groza, Ralph Beard and Dale Barnstable shaved points during the 1948-49 season, a season in which they won the national championship, severe action had to be taken. The NCAA ordered UK to cancel the 1952-53 season, the trio pleaded guilty to accepting $1,500 in bribes for gamblers, and a fourth player, Bill Spivey, was charged with perjury because he refused to testify against his teammates.

This is false. As I said, you need to dig deeper. It was a crime that Alex Groza was blackballed from basketball.

Our of all the blue bloods, UK is by far the cleanest. UCLA, UNC, Duke, Kansas (lol) have way more corruption in their programs.

But none of that matters anymore. We share a rival that we both know is a total POS and bastion of corruption. UK isn't in trouble for anything at all. It's irrelevant to the conversation.

Prostitution for underage recruits, players, and parents.
Money used for escorts were from the coaching staff and university funds.
A brothel on campus for players
Institutional fraud at the highest level
Mob like environment from Tom Jurich
Repeated lies to the ACC about current positioning
Rick Pitino's indiscretions.
Arranged marriages for coverups
Next goes before the board for an FBI scandal that includes Coach 2 (Pitino) arranging 100,000 dollars to a recruit (Bowern)

I could literally keep going.

but that 1,000 dollar cash payment sure is something.

Why do you think Pitino was any different at KY?

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(02-20-2018 11:25 PM)bcspiker Wrote:  

(02-20-2018 07:33 PM)DburgCat Wrote:  

(02-20-2018 03:51 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  Kentucky was the first basketball program to receive the death penalty, and it was well-deserved. The most serious issue that a sports team or organization can face is the influence of gambling and the game's resulting loss of integrity, so when it was revealed that Alex Groza, Ralph Beard and Dale Barnstable shaved points during the 1948-49 season, a season in which they won the national championship, severe action had to be taken. The NCAA ordered UK to cancel the 1952-53 season, the trio pleaded guilty to accepting $1,500 in bribes for gamblers, and a fourth player, Bill Spivey, was charged with perjury because he refused to testify against his teammates.

This is false. As I said, you need to dig deeper. It was a crime that Alex Groza was blackballed from basketball.

Our of all the blue bloods, UK is by far the cleanest. UCLA, UNC, Duke, Kansas (lol) have way more corruption in their programs.

But none of that matters anymore. We share a rival that we both know is a total POS and bastion of corruption. UK isn't in trouble for anything at all. It's irrelevant to the conversation.

Prostitution for underage recruits, players, and parents.
Money used for escorts were from the coaching staff and university funds.
A brothel on campus for players
Institutional fraud at the highest level
Mob like environment from Tom Jurich
Repeated lies to the ACC about current positioning
Rick Pitino's indiscretions.
Arranged marriages for coverups
Next goes before the board for an FBI scandal that includes Coach 2 (Pitino) arranging 100,000 dollars to a recruit (Bowern)

I could literally keep going.

but that 1,000 dollar cash payment sure is something.

Why do you think Pitino was any different at KY?

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(02-20-2018 11:24 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  So, does Michigan get to hang a 2013 championship banner now?

No.

They still lost that game.

Although I enjoy watching Louisville squirm, vacated results unfairly target fans and players with no culpability.

Hard to get excited about the NCAA's actions.

Inconsistent and hypocritical at best.

(02-21-2018 04:21 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  Hard to get excited about the NCAA's actions.

Inconsistent and hypocritical at best.

They either grew balls or was it they had the FBI squeezing theirs? They (NCAA) are the regulators and overseers. They have failed in many regards.

I think the NCAA has all but admitted that the 'scandalous nature' of Louisville's infractions led to this decision.

Which is to say, yeah I think it's about to get a lot worse for both Louisville and everyone else in the FBI investigation.

(02-21-2018 06:30 PM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  I think the NCAA has all but admitted that the 'scandalous nature' of Louisville's infractions led to this decision.

I dunno. They didn’t slam Penn State very hard.

That was the most scandalous stuff I ever heard

Their words, not mine.

It's easy to get outraged over blowjobs and hookers in basketball and nuke them to orbit than it is about child abuse in Paterno's Penn State.