(02-20-2018 01:19 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote: Sitting here 46 years out from the last mission to the moon, and its getting harder to accept the fact that we went.
Why have we not returned in 46 years? Why did they go for 3 years and just stop cold forever?
They barely even had created a rocket capable of entering orbit in 1969, Look at the rockets and technology we have today in comparison. Our cell phones are a million times more powerful than the computers they were using. We have advanced in ways that are hard to even describe since 1972.
I think its possible we went, but every year now my doubts are growing. Not only have we not returned to the moon, we haven't once left earth's orbit with a manned mission.
It just doesn't add up as the years and decades continue to pile up.
Medieval Europeans probably felt the same way about the Roman Empire.
Lockheed SR-71 Blackbird
Since 1976, the Lockheed SR-71 Blackbird has held the world record for the fastest 'air-breathing manned aircraft' with a recorded speed of 1,905.81 knots (2,193.2 mph; 3,529.6 km/h). That works out to a staggering 36.55 miles/58.83 km per minute
First flight: 22 December 1964
Make America Great Again. We are slippin
Look at what passenger rail once was. 90 mph trains were nothing unusual.
Customer service in stores. People once were polite to each other and didn't spew 4 letter words in public at the drop of a hat.
(02-20-2018 01:19 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote: Sitting here 46 years out from the last mission to the moon, and its getting harder to accept the fact that we went.
Why have we not returned in 46 years? Why did they go for 3 years and just stop cold forever?
They barely even had created a rocket capable of entering orbit in 1969, our cell phones are a million times more powerful than the computers they were using. We have advanced in ways that are hard to even describe since 1972.
I think its possible we went, but every year now my doubts are growing. Not only have we not returned to the moon, we haven't once left earth orbit with a manned mission.
It just doesn't add up as the years and decades continue to pile up.
It makes sense if you factor money into it. There became no benefit to it. No benefit beyond normal Earth orbit.
Sounds like a great excuse, but the money has been available for a long time. Both privately and publically. Not only here but other nations around the world.
NASA's overall budget the last 50 years is microscopic compared to other government-funded programs.
46 years and we are to believe the money was never there for one single trip back in the modern era? That doesn't pass the smell test imo.
We concentrated on things like SkyLab, then the space station, experiments and the like.
What’s the point of returning to a veritable astrological wasteland?
Optics? Hang out? Prove we could do it again?
Kinda like taking the kids to Disneyland in my book, been there, done that, bought the crappy T-shirt and fake, plastic Harry Potter magic wand.
Rode a couple good roller coasters I guess, so what next? Go back?
Meh. No point IMO.
If they can FIND a point, then I’m all in. “Beating the Russians”, yea, we’ve done that.
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And we couldn't do it right now. We don't even have a reliable way to get supplies to the space station. All those people from the 60s have retired.
And yes, I know lots of people who have worked at NASA. And I watched it on TV. Doubting that we went to the moon makes the Trump-Russia collusion people look almost normal.
(02-20-2018 01:19 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote: Sitting here 46 years out from the last mission to the moon, and its getting harder to accept the fact that we went.
Why have we not returned in 46 years? Why did they go for 3 years and just stop cold forever?
They barely even had created a rocket capable of entering orbit in 1969, Look at the rockets and technology we have today in comparison. Our cell phones are a million times more powerful than the computers they were using. We have advanced in ways that are hard to even describe since 1972.
I think its possible we went, but every year now my doubts are growing. Not only have we not returned to the moon, we haven't once left earth's orbit with a manned mission.
It just doesn't add up as the years and decades continue to pile up.
Our guys landed on the moon. Faking it would require thousands of NASA employees
to be in on it. Likewise every astronaut would have to be taken out of the capsule rocket prior to liftoff, in order to conduct fake radio communications, fake film footage, pictures etc. And if there was failure at lift off and reentry ......then the Astronauts who were supposed to be on the mission would have to basically agree to kill themselves. You can't have dead astronauts enjoying life on Earth.
We'll go back to the moon when we find something there worth the cost of doing so. Showing up the Ruskies was worth it in the 1960's, it wasn't in the 1970's. Been there, done that, have the T-shirt.
Once we can make travel to the moon make economic sense, and having a base/settlement there make economic sense, then we will have a permanent presence there, and not 1 dime before.
Lockheed SR-71 Blackbird
Since 1976, the Lockheed SR-71 Blackbird has held the world record for the fastest 'air-breathing manned aircraft' with a recorded speed of 1,905.81 knots (2,193.2 mph; 3,529.6 km/h). That works out to a staggering 36.55 miles/58.83 km per minute
First flight: 22 December 1964
Make America Great Again. We are slippin
I love how the standard evasive action against surface-to-air missiles was to simply fly faster than the missile.
Joking aside, the reason we haven't been back to the moon is there is no "driver" to get us back. Back then it was the USSR, the space race, the drive to one up the Russians and be the first to the moon. Now, that "drive" factor does not exist. Add the lack of no "boogeyman", exorbitant costs, and the fact we've already been there done that, it's of little surprise, to me at least, that we have not been back to the moon.
(02-20-2018 01:19 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote: Sitting here 46 years out from the last mission to the moon, and its getting harder to accept the fact that we went.
Why have we not returned in 46 years? Why did they go for 3 years and just stop cold forever?
They barely even had created a rocket capable of entering orbit in 1969, Look at the rockets and technology we have today in comparison. Our cell phones are a million times more powerful than the computers they were using. We have advanced in ways that are hard to even describe since 1972.
I think its possible we went, but every year now my doubts are growing. Not only have we not returned to the moon, we haven't once left earth's orbit with a manned mission.
It just doesn't add up as the years and decades continue to pile up.
in 1969 we had the technology to go to the moon, but not the technology to fake the moon landing.
Why haven't we gone back? The better question is 'why would we?'. The moon is the lifeless, barren place we knew it to be before we went. Going back serves no purpose.
Going to the moon in 1969 was like sailing from New York to South Africa in a dinghy with only a compass to navigate. Leaving earth orbit and going someplace else (Mars) even today would be like rowing around the world without a compass to navigate.
(02-20-2018 02:03 AM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote: We went, every time... It was a PR stunt to put the Russians in their place and we stopped going because (1) we won the space race and (2) it was too much money.
There is zero practical benefit to putting a man on the moon right now, so we send unmanned probes there.
This is my take on it. It was a PR and political move. Once we find there is nothing of value on the moon, why go back? It's pretty expensive without much return.
The contractors made a lot of money off this and continued to after from the space program.
We can play the "I don't believe the moon landing" without any real argument all day long but at the end of the day we did go. To argue otherwise is just looking for an argument for the sake of arguing on the internetz. A tired and unoriginal argument but an argument nonetheless.
Seems like there are more important topics than this going on in the world right now.
(02-20-2018 01:19 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote: Sitting here 46 years out from the last mission to the moon, and its getting harder to accept the fact that we went.
Why have we not returned in 46 years? Why did they go for 3 years and just stop cold forever?
They barely even had created a rocket capable of entering orbit in 1969, Look at the rockets and technology we have today in comparison. Our cell phones are a million times more powerful than the computers they were using. We have advanced in ways that are hard to even describe since 1972.
I think its possible we went, but every year now my doubts are growing. Not only have we not returned to the moon, we haven't once left earth's orbit with a manned mission.
It just doesn't add up as the years and decades continue to pile up.
Medieval Europeans probably felt the same way about the Roman Empire.
Plus 1000. We are entering the new dark ages.
The same people that believe aliens built the pyramids don't believe we put a man on the moon.
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