WMU Broncos

Hello There, Guest! (LoginRegister)

Post Reply 
Jake Moreland is now the OC
Author Message
tayle's mullet Offline
1st String
*

Posts: 1,432
Joined: Aug 2011
Reputation: 18
I Root For: WMU
Location: West Coast
Post: #1
Jake Moreland is now the OC
Congrats to Jake and hope he does well! Go Broncos
02-15-2018 03:30 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Advertisement


flushtheherd Offline
Hall of Famer
*

Posts: 11,747
Joined: May 2007
Reputation: 88
I Root For: WMU
Location: Grand Rapids, MI
Post: #2
RE: Jake Moreland is now the OC
I really like Moreland... but this is an underwhelming turn of events. I wish him well.
02-15-2018 03:39 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
RunningGame Offline
All American
*

Posts: 3,310
Joined: Mar 2017
Reputation: 28
I Root For: WMU
Location: Michigan
Post: #3
RE: Jake Moreland is now the OC
I'm going to believe that he is qualified, given that he's a smart guy who has played in the NFL, our head coach is a former FBS offensive coordinator, and our assistant head coach is a long-time FBS OC too. He is definitely unproven, though.

Maybe Malone really didn't want to deal with the hassle, or is being used for a more strategic purpose?

The new safeties coach is also co-special teams coordinator. Lester sure loves co-coordinators. Me, I think of two coordinators like playing two quarterbacks.
02-15-2018 03:45 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
ColinApocalypse Online
Moderator
*

Posts: 9,968
Joined: Jul 2012
Reputation: 111
I Root For: WMU
Location: Kalamazoo, MI
Post: #4
RE: Jake Moreland is now the OC
Yeah I dunno what's with all the "co" coaches. Just seems like unnecessary complication.

I also figured Malone would be a no-brainer pick for OC. I hope Moreland is up to the task.
02-15-2018 04:02 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
flushtheherd Offline
Hall of Famer
*

Posts: 11,747
Joined: May 2007
Reputation: 88
I Root For: WMU
Location: Grand Rapids, MI
Post: #5
RE: Jake Moreland is now the OC
I have an uneasy “get the band back together” feeling about this staff. Like TL is just keeping friends around him... Moreland has a great resume but has NEVER been an OC at any level. Johns didn’t impress me at all. Maybe this is a step in the right direction... who knows.

I think TL is the real OC but has to be HC first.
02-15-2018 05:52 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Advertisement


Doo Online
1st String
*

Posts: 2,016
Joined: Jun 2014
Reputation: 36
I Root For: WMU
Location:
Post: #6
RE: Jake Moreland is now the OC
Two things.

1) thrilled for Jake and his opportunity for him.

2) we have a former Big Ten OC with NFL experience on staff, and he is not getting the OC nod.

Maybe Malone is at the point in his career where he doesn’t want it anymore. Maybe Moreland is better. Maybe Morelands friendship with Lester ways very heavy in this decision.
02-15-2018 06:05 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
brovol Offline
Heisman
*

Posts: 5,947
Joined: Nov 2007
Reputation: 181
I Root For: WMU/ARMY
Location:
Post: #7
RE: Jake Moreland is now the OC
I don't put as much value on "coordinator experience ", as I do philosophy. I suspect JM has plenty enough experience to do well as a coordinator, but I am very curious how much influence he has on our offensive philosophy last season. If he had significant influence, I have serious concerns.

There are some distinctive drawbacks to a coach hiring a dear friend as an assistant. Most are obvious, so I won't get into them. However, there are also some advantages, one of which is that a close friend can speak frankly, without concern for offending.

I reserve judgement on JM, and look forward to seeing what he does as OC. TL needs to change his philosophies, in my judgement, or we will have serious issues this season, regardless of our players and assistants. Hope he does. But good luck to Jake.
02-15-2018 06:30 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Wheres_Waldo? Offline
Special Teams
*

Posts: 508
Joined: Jul 2013
Reputation: 1
I Root For: WMU
Location:
Post: #8
RE: Jake Moreland is now the OC
can't wait to see what the offensive philosophy will be
02-15-2018 07:19 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Chipdip2 Offline
Heisman
*

Posts: 9,663
Joined: May 2007
Reputation: 64
I Root For: America
Location: Planet Earth
Post: #9
RE: Jake Moreland is now the OC
(02-15-2018 06:30 PM)brovol Wrote:  I don't put as much value on "coordinator experience ", as I do philosophy. I suspect JM has plenty enough experience to do well as a coordinator, but I am very curious how much influence he has on our offensive philosophy last season. If he had significant influence, I have serious concerns.

There are some distinctive drawbacks to a coach hiring a dear friend as an assistant. Most are obvious, so I won't get into them. However, there are also some advantages, one of which is that a close friend can speak frankly, without concern for offending.

I reserve judgement on JM, and look forward to seeing what he does as OC. TL needs to change his philosophies, in my judgement, or we will have serious issues this season, regardless of our players and assistants. Hope he does. But good luck to Jake.

Hello, McFly!!!

Bellamy, Bogan, Watson, Wassink, season ending injuries.

Freshmen QB, all new WR’s

PHILOSOPHY?????

When your entire offense is in traction you work with what you have. Frankly, I’m surprised they won 6 with what they had left. Offensive philosophy......03-drunk
(This post was last modified: 02-15-2018 07:57 PM by Chipdip2.)
02-15-2018 07:55 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Advertisement


BaldingBroncoFan Offline
1st String
*

Posts: 1,135
Joined: Apr 2007
Reputation: 10
I Root For:
Location:
Post: #10
RE: Jake Moreland is now the OC
Saw on WWMT that Lester will be calling the plays this year and that Wassink is good to go.
(This post was last modified: 02-15-2018 08:22 PM by BaldingBroncoFan.)
02-15-2018 08:21 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Stampede your face!! Offline
All American
*

Posts: 3,777
Joined: Oct 2008
Reputation: 45
I Root For: WMU
Location:
Post: #11
RE: Jake Moreland is now the OC
(02-15-2018 08:21 PM)BaldingBroncoFan Wrote:  Saw on WWMT that Lester will be calling the plays this year and that Wassink is good to go.

So our offensive coordinator won't call the plays? Then why call him offensive coordinator? This whole shuffling of the staff seems strange. Given Malone's experience.
02-15-2018 08:26 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Doo Online
1st String
*

Posts: 2,016
Joined: Jun 2014
Reputation: 36
I Root For: WMU
Location:
Post: #12
RE: Jake Moreland is now the OC
Asking OL coaches to be OC is a big undertaking. OL is a big job at this level.
02-15-2018 08:45 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Stampede your face!! Offline
All American
*

Posts: 3,777
Joined: Oct 2008
Reputation: 45
I Root For: WMU
Location:
Post: #13
RE: Jake Moreland is now the OC
(02-15-2018 08:45 PM)Doo Wrote:  Asking OL coaches to be OC is a big undertaking. OL is a big job at this level.

Yeah, at least take the offensive line responsibilities away, you have a guy in Malone that is experienced with it. I'm sorry but, this move is a head scratcher.
02-15-2018 09:15 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Advertisement


NYbronco Offline
Bench Warmer
*

Posts: 121
Joined: Dec 2016
Reputation: 0
I Root For: WMU
Location:
Post: #14
RE: Jake Moreland is now the OC
An o line coach who played tight end and liked to catch balls. As OC i will assume that Moreland will be in the box and talking with Lester. Lester will be calling the plays in as he is an offensive guy. Lester will still be involved with playcalls on D and special teams which is wear the OC title comes in for Moreland to be fully invested in the offense. The fact that the coaches are all friends does lead to the fact that they can talk and have disagreements and discussions without fear and that is good.
02-15-2018 11:29 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
ColinApocalypse Online
Moderator
*

Posts: 9,968
Joined: Jul 2012
Reputation: 111
I Root For: WMU
Location: Kalamazoo, MI
Post: #15
RE: Jake Moreland is now the OC
It's interesting to note that of the top 4 coaches (Lester-HC, Moreland-OC/OL, Daoust-DC, Esposito Co-DC/DL), 2 are alumni and all 4 had former stints on the Bronco coaching staff. It really does feel like a "getting the band back together" situation.
(This post was last modified: 02-15-2018 11:54 PM by ColinApocalypse.)
02-15-2018 11:54 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
BroncoPhilly Offline
Hall of Famer
*

Posts: 16,457
Joined: Apr 2007
Reputation: 76
I Root For:
Location:
Post: #16
RE: Jake Moreland is now the OC
(02-15-2018 05:52 PM)flushtheherd Wrote:  I have an uneasy “get the band back together” feeling about this staff. Like TL is just keeping friends around him... Moreland has a great resume but has NEVER been an OC at any level. Johns didn’t impress me at all. Maybe this is a step in the right direction... who knows.

I think TL is the real OC but has to be HC first.

Being the HC and OC destroyed the Cubit program. I said it then and I'll say it now, any HC who tries to be a coordinator as well is setting himself up for failure.
02-16-2018 12:45 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
brovol Offline
Heisman
*

Posts: 5,947
Joined: Nov 2007
Reputation: 181
I Root For: WMU/ARMY
Location:
Post: #17
RE: Jake Moreland is now the OC
(02-15-2018 07:55 PM)Chipdip2 Wrote:  
(02-15-2018 06:30 PM)brovol Wrote:  I don't put as much value on "coordinator experience ", as I do philosophy. I suspect JM has plenty enough experience to do well as a coordinator, but I am very curious how much influence he has on our offensive philosophy last season. If he had significant influence, I have serious concerns.

There are some distinctive drawbacks to a coach hiring a dear friend as an assistant. Most are obvious, so I won't get into them. However, there are also some advantages, one of which is that a close friend can speak frankly, without concern for offending.

I reserve judgement on JM, and look forward to seeing what he does as OC. TL needs to change his philosophies, in my judgement, or we will have serious issues this season, regardless of our players and assistants. Hope he does. But good luck to Jake.

Hello, McFly!!!

Bellamy, Bogan, Watson, Wassink, season ending injuries.

Freshmen QB, all new WR’s

PHILOSOPHY?????

When your entire offense is in traction you work with what you have. Frankly, I’m surprised they won 6 with what they had left. Offensive philosophy......03-drunk

Yes, philosophy.

Situation: new QB and receivers, solid line and backs. Objective: move the ball, score points, while avoiding situations where QB is under excessive pressure, or too often compelled to make difficult decisions while under pressure. Master Class Coaches Key: never allow your opponents defense to consistently predict what you are about to do.

Philosophical Choice "A" (AKA Dip/Lester plan): telegraph offensive strategy each week by doing the obvious, and exactly what you have done each and every game before; run on first and second downs (preferably interior runs), because you have a good line and backs, even as defenses load the box to stop the run, then let young QB and receivers deal with third and long when defenses know you will be throwing the ball, and blitz or simply plan for a pass play, which will come, and expect your QB to be "successful", even when that strategy has never worked in the history of football, despite the fact that the Matt Millens of the world keep saying that this is "good football, and the Bill Belichicks of the world laugh at that and do just the opposite; or, Philosophical Choice "B": Throw on first down at least as often as you run, thus allowing your young QB and receivers to pitch and catch when there is single coverage and defenses are playing for the run, less likely to have a "pass rush", AND, therefore, keeping defenses "honest" and without the ability to count on a run, which conversely will provide a better opportunity to be successful when we do run on early downs (this same philosophy works well on third and long downs, but in reverse--run the ball when the defense is committing to a pass).

****IMPORTANT**** Philosophy "B" is even more necessary when your team suffers key injuries, as it becomes more critical to "keep defenses off balance" when you are undermanned!!

Now this concept may seem simple and commonsensicall, but that is just because it is, so if you are scratching your head you can stop. And I am sorry if you are upset that I insulted Matt Millen, because I know those of you who liked WMU's offensive strategy last season are likely fans of how Matt Millen thinks, but I needed a good example to illustrate perspective.

So there you have it; the basics on distinctions in offensive philosophy. For those who wish to sign up for the advanced class, please continue to follow this forum for notices and updates.
(This post was last modified: 02-16-2018 10:31 AM by brovol.)
02-16-2018 10:22 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Advertisement


RunningGame Offline
All American
*

Posts: 3,310
Joined: Mar 2017
Reputation: 28
I Root For: WMU
Location: Michigan
Post: #18
RE: Jake Moreland is now the OC
(02-16-2018 12:45 AM)BroncoPhilly Wrote:  
(02-15-2018 05:52 PM)flushtheherd Wrote:  I have an uneasy “get the band back together” feeling about this staff. Like TL is just keeping friends around him... Moreland has a great resume but has NEVER been an OC at any level. Johns didn’t impress me at all. Maybe this is a step in the right direction... who knows.

I think TL is the real OC but has to be HC first.

Being the HC and OC destroyed the Cubit program. I said it then and I'll say it now, any HC who tries to be a coordinator as well is setting himself up for failure.

Yeah, I'm going to agree this adds unnecessary difficulty, like asking the CEO to run the sales department as well. Fleck was able to focus on his strengths and limit his liabilities by just being the head coach and chiming in when he wanted.

Lester may be a good playcaller, and hell, he was a QB, but I hope if he's doing this that his other responsibilities won't suffer. And I hope he doesn't completely ignore the defense like Cubit did. I liked the man but it was embarrassing that he couldn't talk about the opponent's offense at all in press conferences.

Maybe Lester wasn't entirely happy with Johns play-calling and thinks he needs to assert his vision more. Maybe he wants to ease Moreland in. Does anyone know if Lester was the playcaller in his previous head coaching stints?
02-16-2018 11:05 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Bronc33 Offline
1st String
*

Posts: 1,704
Joined: Dec 2015
Reputation: 32
I Root For: WMU
Location:
Post: #19
RE: Jake Moreland is now the OC
(02-16-2018 12:45 AM)BroncoPhilly Wrote:  any HC who tries to be a coordinator as well is setting himself up for failure.

Lincoln Riley did it and made the playoffs.
(This post was last modified: 02-16-2018 01:01 PM by Bronc33.)
02-16-2018 01:01 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
MajorHoople Offline
Hall of Famer
*

Posts: 14,245
Joined: Apr 2007
Reputation: 176
I Root For: WMU Broncos
Location: Waldo, Read, Hyames
Post: #20
RE: Jake Moreland is now the OC
(02-16-2018 01:01 PM)Bronc33 Wrote:  
(02-16-2018 12:45 AM)BroncoPhilly Wrote:  any HC who tries to be a coordinator as well is setting himself up for failure.

Lincoln Riley did it and made the playoffs.

...and Doug Pederson just won the Super Bowl.
02-16-2018 06:14 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Post Reply 




User(s) browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)


Copyright © 2002-2024 Collegiate Sports Nation Bulletin Board System (CSNbbs), All Rights Reserved.
CSNbbs is an independent fan site and is in no way affiliated to the NCAA or any of the schools and conferences it represents.
This site monetizes links. FTC Disclosure.
We allow third-party companies to serve ads and/or collect certain anonymous information when you visit our web site. These companies may use non-personally identifiable information (e.g., click stream information, browser type, time and date, subject of advertisements clicked or scrolled over) during your visits to this and other Web sites in order to provide advertisements about goods and services likely to be of greater interest to you. These companies typically use a cookie or third party web beacon to collect this information. To learn more about this behavioral advertising practice or to opt-out of this type of advertising, you can visit http://www.networkadvertising.org.
Powered By MyBB, © 2002-2024 MyBB Group.