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The Sporting News: P5 Divide Now evident in hoops
http://www.sportingnews.com/amp/ncaa-bas...ssion=true

In a nutshell, Mike Decourcey argues "the worst teams in major conferences no longer stink". The schools in the P5 have such a disparity in resources that the strong recruits are choosing even the worst P5 schools over non P5 programs. There are several quotes from recruiting analysts who indicate the recruits are well aware of the "levels" and want to play at the "highest level"/P5.

He does state with the exception of UC, UConn, Wichita State,, Gonzaga (along with a few others on occasion) the rest are pretty much screwed.
02-14-2018 04:37 PM
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And we will see the result of that this year, when the number of multibid conferences shrinks even further. [/i]
02-14-2018 04:53 PM
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RE: The Sporting News: P5 Divide Now evident in hoops
The move of a lot of programs from the traditionally strong mid major conferences to the P5 or other basketball leagues who are traditionally strong with multi bids (A10, AAC, Big East) doesn't help the trend.
02-14-2018 05:03 PM
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RE: The Sporting News: P5 Divide Now evident in hoops
One quibble with the thread title: the column makes it clear that it is referring to the divide between the *six* power conference (the P5 plus the Big East) compared to everyone else and uses St. John's as a prominent example of how it's the worst team in the Big East yet still beat Duke and Villanova in the same week.
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RE: The Sporting News: P5 Divide Now evident in hoops
(02-14-2018 05:11 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  One quibble with the thread title: the column makes it clear that it is referring to the divide between the *six* power conference (the P5 plus the Big East) compared to everyone else and uses St. John's as a prominent example of how it's the worst team in the Big East yet still beat Duke and Villanova in the same week.

Yea, thread title is (likely intentionally) misleading.
02-14-2018 05:27 PM
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^^ You too need to grow some skin. Excuse me for not including the BE. It is just easier to type P5 vs. P5+BE.
02-14-2018 05:57 PM
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(02-14-2018 05:57 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  ^^ You too need to grow some skin. Excuse me for not including the BE. It is just easier to type P5 vs. P5+BE.

maybe type P6 I'm sure we would all know who 6 is referring to! (even if p5 is a fb term)
02-14-2018 05:59 PM
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RE: The Sporting News: P5 Divide Now evident in hoops
So the "complaint" of this article is that teams like these that "no longer stink" are now trying to win at basketball, and that the internet and recruiting services make it easier for any coach to discover players that might have been ignored by power-conference teams in the past.

Those are not just men's basketball issues -- one could easily make the same observations about women's basketball, baseball, softball, and other sports.
02-14-2018 06:09 PM
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RE: The Sporting News: P5 Divide Now evident in hoops
In the last five years the Missouri Valley, A-10, Mountain West, and C-USA lost Xavier, Butler, Creighton, Wichita, Memphis, and Utah. These 6 teams probably averaged 3 bids in most years. Those bids are no longer going to mid-major conferences.

But it's not because the remaining mid-major schools are any further behind. Rather, the remaining mid-majors (with the exception of Gonzaga, Dayton, and a few more) never had the fan support or resources to compete. They just used to get routinely blown out by the Butlers and Creightons who dominated their conference.
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RE: The Sporting News: P5 Divide Now evident in hoops
(02-14-2018 06:27 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  In the last five years the Missouri Valley, A-10, Mountain West, and C-USA lost Xavier, Butler, Creighton, Wichita, Memphis, and Utah. These 6 teams probably averaged 3 bids in most years. Those bids are no longer going to mid-major conferences.

But it's not because the remaining mid-major schools are any further behind. Rather, the remaining mid-majors (with the exception of Gonzaga, Dayton, and a few more) never had the fan support or resources to compete. They just used to get routinely blown out by the Butlers and Creightons who dominated their conference.

Not true. The Missouri Valley and all but a few programs in the Atlantic 10 were very competitive.
02-14-2018 06:38 PM
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