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RE: The Sporting News: P5 Divide Now evident in hoops
(Yesterday 01:01 AM)Kittonhead Wrote:  The three categories to me are power, high mid-major and mid major.

Power: P5, BE, AAC
High Mid-Major: G4, A10, WCC, MVC
Mid-Major: Everything Else

I'd say that as with the P5/G5 football split, the AAC is a "tweener" in hoops as well. Not at the level of the P5 and Big East, but also above the A10/WCC/MVC.
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DeCourcy is from Pittsburgh. He should take a look at his hometown Panthers and reconsider his position because there’s no way that Pitt is better than half the mid-major programs out there.

Pitt is winless in the ACC and has lost all but one of those conference games by at least 14 points, including three 35+ point losses.

Pitt is the worst team in major college basketball this year and I don’t believe there is a single Division I conference they could win.
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In terms of conferences strength, 100% agree with Kittonhead view above.

What I like to see improve yesteryear is AAC's current grossly insulting pathetic tv deal.
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RE: The Sporting News: P5 Divide Now evident in hoops
If you standardize all-time NCAA bids by conference (from wiki: "note that these figures represent the total bids received by each current member of the conference, and does not necessarily reflect the number of years that a conference was represented in the tournament."):

+1 to +3 Standard Deviations: ACC, Big Ten, SEC, Pac-12, Big 12, Big East
0 to +1 Standard Deviations: AAC, A10, MWC, WCC, C-USA
-1 to 0 Standard Deviations: The remaining 21 conferences from the Ivy League to the Atlantic Sun

Nevermind, that wiki comment about the current member of conferences makes me skeptical about the validity of this. I'll post if I can find better data.
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(Yesterday 10:27 PM)McKinney Wrote:  If you standardize all-time NCAA bids by conference (from wiki: "note that these figures represent the total bids received by each current member of the conference, and does not necessarily reflect the number of years that a conference was represented in the tournament."):

+1 to +3 Standard Deviations: ACC, Big Ten, SEC, Pac-12, Big 12, Big East
0 to +1 Standard Deviations: AAC, A10, MWC, WCC, C-USA
-1 to 0 Standard Deviations: The remaining 21 conferences from the Ivy League to the Atlantic Sun

Nevermind, that wiki comment about the current member of conferences makes me skeptical about the validity of this. I'll post if I can find better data.

I was concerned that representing bids in this manor was disingenuous from a historical context, since a team could have earned a bid while playing in a prior conference. However, perhaps this is best since it gives a ranking of the profile of teams in each conference RIGHT NOW.
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RE: The Sporting News: P5 Divide Now evident in hoops
(Today 12:55 AM)McKinney Wrote:  
(Yesterday 10:27 PM)McKinney Wrote:  If you standardize all-time NCAA bids by conference (from wiki: "note that these figures represent the total bids received by each current member of the conference, and does not necessarily reflect the number of years that a conference was represented in the tournament."):

+1 to +3 Standard Deviations: ACC, Big Ten, SEC, Pac-12, Big 12, Big East
0 to +1 Standard Deviations: AAC, A10, MWC, WCC, C-USA
-1 to 0 Standard Deviations: The remaining 21 conferences from the Ivy League to the Atlantic Sun

Nevermind, that wiki comment about the current member of conferences makes me skeptical about the validity of this. I'll post if I can find better data.

I was concerned that representing bids in this manor was disingenuous from a historical context, since a team could have earned a bid while playing in a prior conference. However, perhaps this is best since it gives a ranking of the profile of teams in each conference RIGHT NOW.

So can you prove that Conference USA teams are equal to the AAC teams historically(or even recently)? I mean come on now. The teams currently in CUSA have 28 NCAA tourney bids in the last 16 years(with most of them being auto 15/16 seed bids). Meanwhile- the AAC schools have had exactly double that number- 56 in 16 years. And after this year- most likely will be a gap of 59-29(if not 60-29).

And just using the raw number of all time bids by current teams in conference..... The AAC is bare minimum a tweener....
ACC 381/15 25.4 per school
Big Ten 298/14 21.3 per school
SEC 269/14 19.2 per school
Pac 12 248/12 20.7 per school
Big 12 246/10 24.6 per school
Big East 242/10 24.2 per school
AAC 195/12 16.3 per school
A10 148/14 10.6 per school
MWC 118/11 10.7 per school
WCC 118/10 11.8 per school
CUSA 112/14 8 per school

so the groupings would be
ACC-BE
AAC
A10, MWC, WCC
CUSA, IVY(9.25 per school)
everyone else

to act like CUSA is remotely close to the AAC in basketball is moronic. CUSA is far closer to the IVY than they are the AAC.
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