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Notre Dame forfeits 21 wins and whines
02-13-2018 02:54 PM
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Folks should be very worried about how investigations will go moving forward. It's not so much that UNC or others get away with things, but how they get away with things not helping or even hindering a NCAA investigation. Place that to those who are fully cooperative with the body, and then self-sanction, only to receive additional punishments from the body.

No, that's not how it works, NCAA.
02-13-2018 03:07 PM
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Unreal. UNC skips all punishment and sanctions on the exact same argument that ND made for its case.

Get ready. This is the beginning of the end for the NCAA. They just made an enemy out of a top power conference school.
02-13-2018 03:13 PM
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After this, I never want to hear that stupid line again about how "when big schools do something bad, small schools get punished by the NCAA."
02-13-2018 03:18 PM
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Another kick in the privates. Welcome to Miami, SMU and any private school that the NCAA wants to kick. God forbid that LSU, Bama, OSU or any enormous state u skirts the rules.
02-13-2018 03:47 PM
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ND self reported and cooperated.

They suspended the players immediately. No good deed....

The punishment is no big deal, though. Who really cares about "vacated wins"?
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02-13-2018 04:42 PM
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The cited infractions pertain to incidents over five years ago. There is still no real time consequences. These delay tactics and long appeal processes just water-down the consequences, sometimes to nothing.
Notre Dame has to vacate dated wins, though it did include a championship season, which they are not happy about. Swofford used his get-out-of-jail free chips on UNC.

The politics in this stuff is immense. Some of the biggest named schools receive wrist slaps for rhe most serious
Infractions. Others less influential, can receive harsher penalties. So much of the dirty activities are never exposed; particular the illegal money exchanges and "gifts", delivered in clever ways.

Either overhaul the system and take political power influences out of it, or just end the farce altogether.
02-13-2018 04:45 PM
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(02-13-2018 03:47 PM)exowlswimmer Wrote:  Another kick in the privates. Welcome to Miami, SMU and any private school that the NCAA wants to kick. God forbid that LSU, Bama, OSU or any enormous state u skirts the rules.

By OSU, I assume you mean Ohio State? They DID skirt the rules (free tattoos for players), and they got hit hard for it.

1-year bowl ban, 9 scholarships removed (3 for three years), $339k fine, and a show-cause penalty for their head coach.
02-13-2018 04:46 PM
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(02-13-2018 04:42 PM)TerryD Wrote:  ND self reported and cooperated.

They suspended the players immediately. No good deed....

The punishment is no big deal, though. Who really cares about "vacated wins"?

The NCAA has no business in any aspect of a Universities Academic affairs.
02-13-2018 04:50 PM
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03-idea Time to retire the NCAA's existence! 07-coffee3
02-13-2018 05:04 PM
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