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RE: College Football has largest attendance drop in 34 years
The younger generations don't go to live events, they live on and through their phones. as those 55 and older die so will the crowd size. That is why the NFL has been shrinking stadium size when they rebuild
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RE: College Football has largest attendance drop in 34 years
(02-13-2018 05:17 PM)goodknightfl Wrote:  The younger generations don't go to live events, they live on and through their phones. as those 55 and older die so will the crowd size. That is why the NFL has been shrinking stadium size when they rebuild

I don't necessarily think you're wrong, but I think it's also a reflection of how the current structure of football and other live sports sold their soul to TV and created an in-game atmosphere that's pushes fans away. Millennials and younger Americans in general aren't skipping out on live concerts or bars/parties because you miss out on the experience if you just listen to Spotify or drink at home; on the flip side they're skipping out on live TV since you can just watch it later on Hulu, or stay away from live sports because constant communication makes going to a game to see the result in-person less meaningful as opposed to an era when your only two choices were to go to the game or watch a badly produced broadcast (if it was on TV at all). Nowadays a game can easily turn into a 4+ hour affair when you factor in getting there and back; if you shortened the game to 2 hours 30 minutes with limited interruptions it suddenly becomes less of a hassle for a more interesting experience.

In general I don't doubt these trends at all, but one must also keep in mind that as long as teams are self-reporting attendance some of these numbers are kinda sketchy. A sample size of 130 or so is enough to gauge where it's going, but there isn't a great baseline of comparison as long as we're staying away from butts-in-the-seats due to the stupid NCAA attendance rule.
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RE: College Football has largest attendance drop in 34 years
FWIW, the attendance declines are cross-division. FBS is NOT unique:

FCS --- from 8357 to 8223 (-1.6%)

D2 --- from 3459 to 3273 (-5.4%)

D3 --- from 1954 to 1873 (-4.1%)

http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/stats/football_r...e/2017.pdf
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RE: College Football has largest attendance drop in 34 years
There has been a "playoff", in some form or another, since the BCA in 1992. I don't buy that going from a 2-team playoff to a 4-team has much to do with it.

I do think that there was an explosion of bowls starting in the 90's, and a lot of teams that had been absent from them for years started getting regular bids which generated excitement in the fanbases. That has peaked, and even mid-upper tier bowls aren't the attraction they were even 5 years ago. On top of that, 55" HD TVs are no longer a luxury item, so it's really a better experience for many to watch at home.

Moreover price is the main factor. My buddies and I went to every bowl game in college, AND then took side trips after our game to New Orleans to spend New Years 3 of those years (2 more years we were in the Sugar Bowl itself). That on summer savings, part-time jobs, and credit cards - no parental help. Who the hell could do that now? It's just too damn expensive.
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College Football has largest attendance drop in 34 years
Games are longer with long breaks. Games are pushing 3:30 while NBA clocks in about an hour less and soccer about 90 minutes less.

I travel less because it’s no longer travel vs radio, it’s travel vs TV. When I travel I know it will mean sitting on a bleacher instead of chair back and facing the sun.

Prices are up. Even for G5 fans season tickets and parking mostly have increased faster than wages.

More games end up on weeknights and if you are a P5 fan do you need at hotel for Friday night for an 11:30 kick or Saturday night for a 7pm kick? Usually you have two weeks to find out.


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RE: College Football has largest attendance drop in 34 years
At first I thought it was like a 10% or more drop. But a 3.5% drop isn't as significant. And trying to compare previous years with the overall FBS is faulty since there have been new FBS teams that don't pull hardly much attendance and that is a factor in the overall scheme of things.

If the bottom G5 would get their attendance up, that overall decline would be nullified most likely. Losing Idaho to FCS will help, others who hard have 5k in the stands are the culprits of pulling the average down.
The MAC always hurts the attendance with weekday games along with some of the MW with the late night games. Getting the other dredges of the G5 to increase their attendance will help.....if they can't then they don't belong to FBS and need to drop to FCS.

Soon there will be others following Idaho's move to FCS. While the other university presidents have watched and commended Idaho's move, they are to scare (as of now) to try to move down. However, soon the economics and anemic football attendance at the lower schools will force the issue regardless as athletic budgets keep getting deeper in the red and the students are tired of paying high fees for FBS football.
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(02-13-2018 02:38 PM)Hokie4Skins Wrote:  Major-college football experienced its largest per-game attendance drop in 34 years and second-largest ever, according to recently released NCAA figures.

Attendance among the 129 Football Bowl Subdivision (FBS) teams in 2017 was down an average of 1,409 fans per game from 2016. That marked the largest drop since 1983 when average attendance declined 1,527 fans per game from 1982.

The 2017 FBS average of 42,203 fans per game is the lowest since 1997.

That average attendance drop marked the second-sharpest decline since the NCAA began keeping track of college football attendance in 1948. For the first time in history, average attendance declined nationally for four consecutive seasons.

More at link: https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...-34-years/

I wonder what cost has to do with it.
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(02-13-2018 03:01 PM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  So, an inherently flawed playoff structure only rewards four teams, and, basically, only four teams from major conferences.

There is no incentive to go to games if you have half of FBS basically kept at bay from the championship, and, if you are a major, the season may end after just one loss, but definitely two.

Problem with this theory is the CFP gives the G5 schools more access and exposure than any previous system.

Your snipped section on kickoff times resonated more.
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(02-13-2018 04:21 PM)Hokie4Skins Wrote:  
(02-13-2018 04:17 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  
(02-13-2018 03:01 PM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  So, an inherently flawed playoff structure only rewards four teams, and, basically, only four teams from major conferences.

There is no incentive to go to games if you have half of FBS basically kept at bay from the championship, and, if you are a major, the season may end after just one loss, but definitely two.

Yeah, no crap attendance is dropping.


I'm going to go with this. There are about 10-15 schools that have real shot at winning a NC.

That's always been the case, though.

Nah, nah, nah, not so fast. There are at least 10-15 schools that shouldn't even be FBS. The 90's had it right: about 18-20 bowls and a little over 100 teams.
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(02-13-2018 05:05 PM)XLance Wrote:  
(02-13-2018 04:51 PM)MU88 Wrote:  All sports are having attendance issues. New stadiums and arenas are being built smaller. Remodels involve decreasing seating capacity. Lots of reasons. Too many sports. Too pricey. Technological improvements. Fans disconnect with teams/athletes. But, I think the number one reason is the changes in the interests of youth. My kids play all sorts of sports, but they don't watch any. The boy may watch Lebron. The girl may watch a bit of the Olympics, volleyball or figure skating. But, unless I drag them to a game, they would never go. I would expect attendance to continue to drop and our kids grow up.

I started taking my kids when they were four and two (their Grandmother was appreciative too). They went to every game with us through high school.
Now I buy tickets for my daughter and her family....I get to see my Grandchildren and watch Carolina football all on the same day...it's like being in the Southern part of Heaven...which it is.

Except Fedora is there and not Mack Brown?
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