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RE: College Basketball Top 25 Rankings 02/12/18 - UC #5 AP , #5 Coaches
Seth Davis, Sunday during the selection show: I would move Cincinnati down to a 3-seed and Michigan St. up to a 2-seed.

Seth Davis, voting for the AP poll: Cincinnati is #8 overall.

Can't catch a break with some of these guys...
 
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RE: College Basketball Top 25 Rankings 02/12/18 - UC #5 AP , #5 Coaches
Well, it's mostly conjecture at this point anyway. UC can further challenge some of the doubters with two more wins this week. Tall order, but I'm beginning to believe this team is demonstrating they have a very high ceiling.
 
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RE: College Basketball Top 25 Rankings 02/12/18 - UC #5 AP , #5 Coaches
(02-12-2018 01:34 PM)Cataclysmo Wrote:  Seth Davis, Sunday during the selection show: I would move Cincinnati down to a 3-seed and Michigan St. up to a 2-seed.

Seth Davis, voting for the AP poll: Cincinnati is #8 overall.

Can't catch a break with some of these guys...
How good a team is and what seed they've earned aren't the same thing. I look at our Kenpom and BPI and I think we're a top 4 team and openly admit we shouldn't be a #1 seed at this point. The opposite of that is I don't have an issue with Xavier's seeding although their predictive analytic numbers say they're in the 10-15 range. Seeding is about what your resume says, not how good you are.
 
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RE: College Basketball Top 25 Rankings 02/12/18 - UC #5 AP , #5 Coaches
(02-12-2018 01:39 PM)RealDeal Wrote:  
(02-12-2018 01:34 PM)Cataclysmo Wrote:  Seth Davis, Sunday during the selection show: I would move Cincinnati down to a 3-seed and Michigan St. up to a 2-seed.

Seth Davis, voting for the AP poll: Cincinnati is #8 overall.

Can't catch a break with some of these guys...
How good a team is and what seed they've earned aren't the same thing. I look at our Kenpom and BPI and I think we're a top 4 team and openly admit we shouldn't be a #1 seed at this point. The opposite of that is I don't have an issue with Xavier's seeding although their predictive analytic numbers say they're in the 10-15 range. Seeding is about what your resume says, not how good you are.

Sure, but, we still have the resume for a 2-seed. It doesn't make sense for someone to rank us #8 and then declare that we don't deserve a 2-seed.
 
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I don't have historical information but I suspect a number of voters were beginning to question Villanova's rankings and seedings after a run of several excellent regular seasons for their program ended early in March Madness. When Jay Wright and company finally broke through for a national championship, the Wildcats starting getting more respect. Fair or not, it's often earned in the tournament.
 
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RE: College Basketball Top 25 Rankings 02/12/18 - UC #5 AP , #5 Coaches
(02-12-2018 01:08 PM)vabearcat Wrote:  UC also has one #1 vote in the Coaches' Poll. Just sayin'.

Are we taking odds who it was? I highlighted a few favorites consisting of past opponents this year and former places of employment.


The USA TODAY Sports Board of Coaches is made up of 32 head coaches at Division I institutions. All are members of the National Association of Basketball Coaches. The board for the 2017-18 season:

Randy Bennett, Saint Mary's; Jim Boeheim, Syracuse; Tad Boyle, Colorado; Todd Bozeman, Morgan State; Glenn Braica, St. Francis Brooklyn; Scott Cherry, High Point; Tim Cluess, Iona; Jon Coffman, IP-Fort Wayne; Scott Drew, Baylor; Matt Driscoll, North Florida; Fran Dunphy, Temple; Bill Evans, Idaho State; Mark Fox, Georgia; John Gallagher, Hartford; Matthew Graves, South Alabama; Steve Hawkins, Western Michigan; Steve Henson, Texas-San Antonio; George Ivory, Arkansas-Pine Bluff; Ben Jacobson, Northern Iowa; James Jones, Yale; Greg Kampe, Oakland; Mike McConathy, Northwestern State; Greg McDermott, Creighton; Matt McMahon, Murray State; Dan Monson, Long Beach State; Chris Mooney, Richmond; Matt Painter, Purdue; Dave Pilipovich, Air Force; Brett Reed, Lehigh; Kareem Richardson, Missouri-Kansas City; Zach Spiker, Drexel; Mike Young, Wofford
 
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I'm good at #5. At least Dookie V. had us higher than #8. Just keep winning.
 
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RE: College Basketball Top 25 Rankings 02/12/18 - UC #5 AP , #5 Coaches
(02-12-2018 02:08 PM)Bearcat2012 Wrote:  
(02-12-2018 01:08 PM)vabearcat Wrote:  UC also has one #1 vote in the Coaches' Poll. Just sayin'.

Are we taking odds who it was? I highlighted a few favorites consisting of past opponents this year and former places of employment.


The USA TODAY Sports Board of Coaches is made up of 32 head coaches at Division I institutions. All are members of the National Association of Basketball Coaches. The board for the 2017-18 season:

Randy Bennett, Saint Mary's; Jim Boeheim, Syracuse; Tad Boyle, Colorado; Todd Bozeman, Morgan State; Glenn Braica, St. Francis Brooklyn; Scott Cherry, High Point; Tim Cluess, Iona; Jon Coffman, IP-Fort Wayne; Scott Drew, Baylor; Matt Driscoll, North Florida; Fran Dunphy, Temple; Bill Evans, Idaho State; Mark Fox, Georgia; John Gallagher, Hartford; Matthew Graves, South Alabama; Steve Hawkins, Western Michigan; Steve Henson, Texas-San Antonio; George Ivory, Arkansas-Pine Bluff; Ben Jacobson, Northern Iowa; James Jones, Yale; Greg Kampe, Oakland; Mike McConathy, Northwestern State; Greg McDermott, Creighton; Matt McMahon, Murray State; Dan Monson, Long Beach State; Chris Mooney, Richmond; Matt Painter, Purdue; Dave Pilipovich, Air Force; Brett Reed, Lehigh; Kareem Richardson, Missouri-Kansas City; Zach Spiker, Drexel; Mike Young, Wofford

Fran would be my guess. The game here I have never seen a coach with such a forlorn look on his face like there was absolutely nothing he could do to change what was going down.
 
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