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Looks like an important three-week stretch for certain coaches.

The standings tonight line up in a very interesting way:

1) Tier One: safe, but ready to move? Grant, Coen and Shaver would probably go 1-2-3 in Coach of the Year voting and all seem very secure in their jobs. I don't think Shaver is looking to go anywhere but both Grant and Coen would seem to be good candidates for other jobs, especially if either wins the regular season & CAAT.
2) Tier Two: solid programs but what's up this year? You would think Mihalich, Skerry and Matheny would all be secure in their jobs. In fact, a regular season championship and winning the CAAT might have made any of these candidates to move up. Instead, as of now, each of their teams has underwhelmed this year. Is it possible they could feel some heat? (I don't think so but ...)
3) Tier Three: what is his name again? McGrath, Spiker, Inglesby and Rowe have a combined seven years at their respective schools. Their jobs are safe and they aren't going anywhere - yet.

A lot can change in the next three years. Shaka Smart was feeling some heat at VCU prior to their deep NCAA run. Any team can get hot and totally change the dynamic around their coach.
02-10-2018 09:30 PM
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(02-10-2018 09:30 PM)tribeinexile Wrote:  Looks like an important three-week stretch for certain coaches.

The standings tonight line up in a very interesting way:

1) Tier One: safe, but ready to move? Grant, Coen and Shaver would probably go 1-2-3 in Coach of the Year voting and all seem very secure in their jobs. I don't think Shaver is looking to go anywhere but both Grant and Coen would seem to be good candidates for other jobs, especially if either wins the regular season & CAAT.
2) Tier Two: solid programs but what's up this year? You would think Mihalich, Skerry and Matheny would all be secure in their jobs. In fact, a regular season championship and winning the CAAT might have made any of these candidates to move up. Instead, as of now, each of their teams has underwhelmed this year. Is it possible they could feel some heat? (I don't think so but ...)
3) Tier Three: what is his name again? McGrath, Spiker, Inglesby and Rowe have a combined seven years at their respective schools. Their jobs are safe and they aren't going anywhere - yet.

A lot can change in the next three years. Shaka Smart was feeling some heat at VCU prior to their deep NCAA run. Any team can get hot and totally change the dynamic around their coach.

Smart had 27 wins year 1 and a CBI championship, and made the final 4 year two.
02-10-2018 09:52 PM
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Serves me right for looking at other school's message boards. I do remember a lot of wailing and moaning, gnashing of teeth over losing Grant as coach. And VCU was 5th and 4th in the CAA regular season in Smart's first two years while Grant had them in regular season 1st place the prior three years.

So maybe it was just noise. Smart's VCU record in retrospect was certainly stellar. But how were the fans feeling at the end of the regular season his second year?

Right now the Hofstra, Towson and Elon message boards are fussing and fuming over their coaches. I think it's just noise but it is interesting.
02-10-2018 10:07 PM
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I think considering what he lost last season Shaver is coach of ths year
As for Grant leaving CofC we have several things going for us. He was raised here. His wife graduated from.CofC. She has expressed more than once she wants to live close to family. Not saying the right money would not lure him away but having decent job where your roots are means a lot to some people.
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I would have Coen and Shaver as 1A and 1B for coach of the year. Charleston was supposed to run away with the conference this season with what they returned, so I don't think Grant deserves to get it over the other 2.

I might give it to Shaver just ever so slightly because of the short rotation due to Whitman and Malinowski bailing on us and having to gameplan knowing we pretty much only give extended minutes to 1 player on the bench.
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Saw this tweeted today:

"Add Tony Shaver from William and Mary to the hot seat list

Samantha Huge has ambition to move up, and even though Tony has done a solid job given the restraints, he has made his own bed by being there 15 years with 0 NCAA tournaments"

While I disagree and believe Tony is safe, the next statement got my attention. Apparently, the outside perception of some is that Huge has ambition to move up. I don't think I've heard that directly stated before.
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(02-18-2018 04:46 PM)mrjoolius Wrote:  Saw this tweeted today:

"Add Tony Shaver from William and Mary to the hot seat list

Samantha Huge has ambition to move up, and even though Tony has done a solid job given the restraints, he has made his own bed by being there 15 years with 0 NCAA tournaments"

While I disagree and believe Tony is safe, the next statement got my attention. Apparently, the outside perception of some is that Huge has ambition to move up. I don't think I've heard that directly stated before.
This could be the simple, “don’t believe everything you read on the internet” deal, but move up where?
I understand why he’s on the hot seat but I don’t at the same time. We don’t have many seniors on this team (roughly 2 get actual minutes). They’re all young.
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Whoa whoa whoa. If that's true, its a MASSIVE shift in program, and perhaps department, philosophy. Do you know who tweeted that?

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(02-18-2018 05:11 PM)zablenoise Wrote:  Whoa whoa whoa. If that's true, its a MASSIVE shift in program, and perhaps department, philosophy. Do you know who tweeted that?

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I'm going to do my best to make this unbias.

Pros
Great person
Numerous winning seasons
A few 20+ winning seasons
Entrenched
Multiple COY
Fans seem to love him
Does things the W&M way as far as the student-athlete experience and expectations.
W&M has no history of winning / low expectations as far as winning

Cons
No CAA Titles / NCAAT appearances
Hasn't been here so long that it would impossible to move him. In other words, in another few years, he will stay as long as he wants.
Huge owes him nothing.
Huge seems to want to make a statement and possibly move on to a big school

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