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RE: 2018 CUSA Tourney Bracket
(02-09-2018 10:20 PM)Magic95Fan Wrote:  According to the Conference USA website, ODU is indeed in 2nd place. I guess overall record trumps head to head?

Conference USA uses alphabetical order on its standings. They use the tiebreakers when determining tourney seeding but not on standings.
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(02-09-2018 10:20 PM)Magic95Fan Wrote:  According to the Conference USA website, ODU is indeed in 2nd place. I guess overall record trumps head to head?

Overall record. Explain please. We play them again in a couple weeks and should we beat them it will be a moot point but if not then a true tie. I think we have a harder in conf schedule than anyone else. Play all the top teams twice. Not sure anyone else does.
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RE: 2018 CUSA Tourney Bracket
(02-10-2018 01:04 PM)69topper Wrote:  
(02-09-2018 10:20 PM)Magic95Fan Wrote:  According to the Conference USA website, ODU is indeed in 2nd place. I guess overall record trumps head to head?

Overall record. Explain please. We play them again in a couple weeks and should we beat them it will be a moot point but if not then a true tie. I think we have a harder in conf schedule than anyone else. Play all the top teams twice. Not sure anyone else does.

I was just speculating on why the conference had ODU ahead, but the poster that said they do it in alphabetical order makes sense.

Would be helpful for the conference to actually show true standings on their official website. We shouldnt have to figure it out ourselves.
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While we’re talking tiebreakers you are correct with UTEP in the 12 seed as they beat Rice head-to-head and would have it “if tourney started today”.
But like the other tiebreaker, we get another shot at them (at our place this time). You can pencil us in, by the way 03-wink
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RE: 2018 CUSA Tourney Bracket
Went ahead and updated it for 2.11.18. Currently it appears that WKU has the tiebreaker of ODU, UNT has it over UTSA, LTU has it over USM, and UTEP has it over Rice with all of those games getting a rematch.
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Interesting seeing LATech & USM tied in the standings with as you mentioned a rematch scheduled AND another (projected) rematch in Frisco. Yet their first meeting was one of the most lopsided games all year in CUSA play. Probably just a case of two teams showing promising upside yet ‘consistently inconsistent’.
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RE: 2018 CUSA Tourney Bracket
(02-10-2018 01:04 PM)69topper Wrote:  
(02-09-2018 10:20 PM)Magic95Fan Wrote:  According to the Conference USA website, ODU is indeed in 2nd place. I guess overall record trumps head to head?

Overall record. Explain please. We play them again in a couple weeks and should we beat them it will be a moot point but if not then a true tie. I think we have a harder in conf schedule than anyone else. Play all the top teams twice. Not sure anyone else does.

Here's a list of tiebreakers:

http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/c-us...eakers.pdf

So head to head is first. If we split then it'll go to win percentage against top teams. Then to overall record but it seems extremely unlikely to get to that point.

So assuming we split the games and are still tied and using current records. We're both 0fer against MT, we're tied for second so move on to fourth place which is Marshall. We're 1-0 against Marshall and you're 2-0. Both are 100% but the rules state 2-0 beats 1-0 so you'd be 2nd seed and we'd be 3rd.
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RE: 2018 CUSA Tourney Bracket
(02-11-2018 12:10 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  
(02-10-2018 01:04 PM)69topper Wrote:  
(02-09-2018 10:20 PM)Magic95Fan Wrote:  According to the Conference USA website, ODU is indeed in 2nd place. I guess overall record trumps head to head?

Overall record. Explain please. We play them again in a couple weeks and should we beat them it will be a moot point but if not then a true tie. I think we have a harder in conf schedule than anyone else. Play all the top teams twice. Not sure anyone else does.

Here's a list of tiebreakers:

http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/c-us...eakers.pdf

So head to head is first. If we split then it'll go to win perscentage against top teams. Then to overall record but it seems extremely unlikely to get to that point.

So assuming we split the games and are still tied and using current records. We're both 0fer against MT, we're tied for second so move on to fourth place which is Marshall. We're 1-0 against Marshall and you're 2-0. Both are 100% but the rules state 2-0 beats 1-0 so you'd be 2nd seed and we'd be 3rd.

The only advantage of playing all the top teams twice I guess since playing them all twice enhances your chances of having more loses.
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RE: 2018 CUSA Tourney Bracket
(02-10-2018 01:04 PM)69topper Wrote:  
(02-09-2018 10:20 PM)Magic95Fan Wrote:  According to the Conference USA website, ODU is indeed in 2nd place. I guess overall record trumps head to head?

Overall record. Explain please. We play them again in a couple weeks and should we beat them it will be a moot point but if not then a true tie. I think we have a harder in conf schedule than anyone else. Play all the top teams twice. Not sure anyone else does.

We do. Or at least did when UAB was a top team. We play you, ODU, MTSU twice and UAB twice from the west.
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RE: 2018 CUSA Tourney Bracket
(02-11-2018 12:10 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  
(02-10-2018 01:04 PM)69topper Wrote:  
(02-09-2018 10:20 PM)Magic95Fan Wrote:  According to the Conference USA website, ODU is indeed in 2nd place. I guess overall record trumps head to head?

Overall record. Explain please. We play them again in a couple weeks and should we beat them it will be a moot point but if not then a true tie. I think we have a harder in conf schedule than anyone else. Play all the top teams twice. Not sure anyone else does.

Here's a list of tiebreakers:

http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/c-us...eakers.pdf

So head to head is first. If we split then it'll go to win percentage against top teams. Then to overall record but it seems extremely unlikely to get to that point.

So assuming we split the games and are still tied and using current records. We're both 0fer against MT, we're tied for second so move on to fourth place which is Marshall. We're 1-0 against Marshall and you're 2-0. Both are 100% but the rules state 2-0 beats 1-0 so you'd be 2nd seed and we'd be 3rd.

ODU plays Marshall again but now it occurs to me that it won't get that far because WKU plays Middle again. If WKU wins then they have the tiebreaker (1-1 vs. 0-1). If they lose, then 0-1 beats 0-2, and ODU gets the second seed.
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