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RE: Any word on C-USA tv deals?
(02-12-2018 09:12 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  
(02-12-2018 08:12 AM)BKTopper Wrote:  UAB, Marshall, WKU, MT, F_U's, ODU. Plus appst, gaso, gast. Nice 10 member conference. But bring along FGCU, Belmont, Evansville, Charlotte (oly only) as quality basketball adds. Then you add 2 football only schools: Army and UMass. Now THAT'S insane.

Why? Why would we basically create the same thing we have now just with different teams?

The Florida schools are going to have to show me more than one season to prove to me they are truly committed - and neither still seem to give a crap about basketball. Georgia St is an albatross for football. Ga Southern is now starting to realize it's not as easy as they thought it was going to be. And App State is abysmal in basketball.

If you look at this league arrangement just for one year it's pretty good. Ga State actually made a bowl. The Florida schools did well in football. The league would rank 8th in RPI in basketball. But extend it out the last three years and see what it looks like. The RPI for this as a league would be 15th, 19th and 16th over the previous three years. That looks pretty much exactly like what we already have.

If Selig, Stewart, and Massaro (and I might even throw Ingram in there) are going to get together and make this happen they need to create the best possible mix of schools who are committed and dedicated to football and basketball. I would say pick one between Ga Southern and App State but not both. Both are historically cellar dwellers in basketball and there is no reason to add that much risk to a new league. Same for FIU and FAU. Pick the breadwinner. Both aren't needed. Add back in La Tech. And probably Southern Miss. Or perhaps steal Ohio from the MAC, which is possible if you are selling competing for the Access Bowl and at-large bids by putting the right mix of schools together. Even with Norfolk to Ruston some degree of geographical symmetry is retained. If you are looking for basketball only members then and only then would you consider Georgia State. GSU and Belmont would be good basketball only members (though I'm not convinced it would be necessary). In fact, I would say adding basketball only schools wouldn't add much benefit in relation to revenue sharing.

MTSU is going to have to show that want more than going 7-5 every year in football and being ok with a mediocre coach for a decade to show they belong in this league.
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Any news on tv deal?
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(02-13-2018 02:44 PM)jcduncan13 Wrote:  Any news on tv deal?

What is this.........."tv"..........you speak of?
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(02-13-2018 03:51 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  
(02-13-2018 02:44 PM)jcduncan13 Wrote:  Any news on tv deal?

What is this.........."tv"..........you speak of?

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RE: Any word on C-USA tv deals?
Have at it. My only question, aren't TV views and internet views counted differently? I wish he would address this in the article to prove he at least knows what he's talking about.

https://pilotonline.com/sports/college/o...9c585.html
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RE: Any word on C-USA tv deals?
(02-14-2018 06:47 AM)odu09 Wrote:  Have at it. My only question, aren't TV views and internet views counted differently? I wish he would address this in the article to prove he at least knows what he's talking about.

https://pilotonline.com/sports/college/o...9c585.html

Yes. We talked about this when he first mentioned it after the game.

The stream shows how many people are actually watching it live at any given time. The most I saw was about 2,000. That doesn't mean that only 2,000 watched it but you have to believe that a vast majority of those watching it did so for most if not all of the game. Certainly there weren't another 393K viewers that came in and out at some point.

Bottom line is both Harry and Selig don't know what they are talking about here. And because it's Facebook a "view" could have been achieved by anyone who has liked Stadium on their own Facebook account and simply scrolling by it to see who ate dinner that night, took a dump, and posted something about Trump. In other words for one of those page views to count you don't even have to click the link to actually start streaming the video of the game.
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(02-13-2018 02:44 PM)jcduncan13 Wrote:  Any news on tv deal?

https://www.costco.com/55-inch-tvs-throu...h-tvs.html

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(02-14-2018 07:43 AM)AppinSC Wrote:  
(02-13-2018 02:44 PM)jcduncan13 Wrote:  Any news on tv deal?

https://www.costco.com/55-inch-tvs-throu...h-tvs.html

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RE: Any word on C-USA tv deals?
(02-14-2018 07:38 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  
(02-14-2018 06:47 AM)odu09 Wrote:  Have at it. My only question, aren't TV views and internet views counted differently? I wish he would address this in the article to prove he at least knows what he's talking about.

https://pilotonline.com/sports/college/o...9c585.html

Yes. We talked about this when he first mentioned it after the game.

The stream shows how many people are actually watching it live at any given time. The most I saw was about 2,000. That doesn't mean that only 2,000 watched it but you have to believe that a vast majority of those watching it did so for most if not all of the game. Certainly there weren't another 393K viewers that came in and out at some point.

Bottom line is both Harry and Selig don't know what they are talking about here. And because it's Facebook a "view" could have been achieved by anyone who has liked Stadium on their own Facebook account and simply scrolling by it to see who ate dinner that night, took a dump, and posted something about Trump. In other words for one of those page views to count you don't even have to click the link to actually start streaming the video of the game.

This is why I would really wish Harry could back up his reasoning with real data. Writing like this is flat out dangerous - it's misleading and I respect him (losing that respect after this) but I cannot stand journalists who are misleading their audience. It's also dangerous because now our commish can point to the article and say "see, FB is the exposure we need" and get even lazier on the next tv deal. Just...scary.
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RE: Any word on C-USA tv deals?
(02-14-2018 07:48 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  
(02-14-2018 07:43 AM)AppinSC Wrote:  
(02-13-2018 02:44 PM)jcduncan13 Wrote:  Any news on tv deal?

https://www.costco.com/55-inch-tvs-throu...h-tvs.html

Your welcome! 04-cheers

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clt says he did pretty well for an appy.
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