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RE: Another game where Sadler makes ZERO 2nd half adjustments
(02-10-2018 07:33 PM)RockTheRock Wrote:  
(02-10-2018 07:16 PM)TheChosenOne Wrote:  
(02-10-2018 06:34 PM)RockTheRock Wrote:  
(02-10-2018 03:23 PM)TheChosenOne Wrote:  
(02-10-2018 12:48 PM)RockTheRock Wrote:  So raise the $700k to buy him out. If you feel so strongly put your money up.

Since you feel so strongly about keeping him maybe you should purchase all unsold tickets. See how that works.

He already has a contract for 2 more years whether a single ticket is sold or not.

See, THAT’S how it actually works.

You Tyndall fan boys beat all.

Never said anything about Tyndall, nice try. So you’ll only need to fork up two years of ticket sales. What a bargain.

No, he has a job for 2 years whether the coliseum is empty or full. All of you who hate him will have to buy that out.

I see logic and facts are no use on you. Low admission standards strike again.

Your common theme ‘if you don’t like it fork up the money’. The logic for your use of this is you can’t defend the indefensible. But you are one funny dude. In fact your responses to anyone arr aggressive and childish, look no further than above. So yea, low admission standards apply. Now let’s get to attendance, which we thank you for purchasing unsold tickets for next two years. Ticket sales are zip under Doc, until now, so a new and entergetic coach ‘could’ ‘possibly’ maybe’ bring back some resemblance of a program.

Now I’ll lay down the jabber to speak 100%. You do make a valid argument. Dumping Doc will be costly, most likely don’t have the cash laying around. But can we afford to keep him? That’s the economics our fearless leaders will have to decide. You and I, maybe you’re connected, are not privileged to that info. Something tells me you and I could agree or disagree, either way will make no difference to Docs future.

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RE: Another game where Sadler makes ZERO 2nd half adjustments
(02-10-2018 07:54 PM)TheChosenOne Wrote:  
(02-10-2018 07:33 PM)RockTheRock Wrote:  
(02-10-2018 07:16 PM)TheChosenOne Wrote:  
(02-10-2018 06:34 PM)RockTheRock Wrote:  
(02-10-2018 03:23 PM)TheChosenOne Wrote:  Since you feel so strongly about keeping him maybe you should purchase all unsold tickets. See how that works.

He already has a contract for 2 more years whether a single ticket is sold or not.

See, THAT’S how it actually works.

You Tyndall fan boys beat all.

Never said anything about Tyndall, nice try. So you’ll only need to fork up two years of ticket sales. What a bargain.

No, he has a job for 2 years whether the coliseum is empty or full. All of you who hate him will have to buy that out.

I see logic and facts are no use on you. Low admission standards strike again.

Your common theme ‘if you don’t like it fork up the money’. The logic for your use of this is you can’t defend the indefensible. But you are one funny dude. In fact your responses to anyone arr aggressive and childish, look no further than above. So yea, low admission standards apply. Now let’s get to attendance, which we thank you for purchasing unsold tickets for next two years. Ticket sales are zip under Doc, until now, so a new and entergetic coach ‘could’ ‘possibly’ maybe’ bring back some resemblance of a program.

Now I’ll lay down the jabber to speak 100%. You do make a valid argument. Dumping Doc will be costly, most likely don’t have the cash laying around. But can we afford to keep him? That’s the economics our fearless leaders will have to decide. You and I, maybe you’re connected, are not privileged to that info. Something tells me you and I could agree or disagree, either way will make no difference to Docs future.

Peace

There is nothing to defend. All I commented on was his contract status, which isn’t disputable or in question. Whether we can afford to keep him is a moot point when it comes to our obligations. We are obligated by contract to pay him for two more seasons, period, whether I or anyone else buys a ticket. Your argument is quite specious in this regard.
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RE: Another game where Sadler makes ZERO 2nd half adjustments
(02-10-2018 12:39 PM)TTT Wrote:  
(02-09-2018 08:46 PM)HarborPointe Wrote:  Also, for the 543rd time, our current roster includes one legitimate recruiting class.

How many legitimate recruiting classes did Sadler have coaching at Nebraska from '06 to '12 when we only won 34% of his conference games?

This has nothing to do with the quality of players we have but the lack of quality in a HC we have. He's not a good head coach and we were stupid to hire someone who only won 34% of his conference games...

Would baseball hire a head coach who only won 34% of conference games at his previous stint? Hell no.

Would football hire a head coach who only won 34% of conference games at his previous stint? Hell no. (Well, we sorta did with Elloss and we all know how that turned out)

Sadler is not a good basketball coach, be it with "legitimate recruiting classes" or not. We need a new coach. W's are down, attendance is down, hardwood club is down, money is down. Our bball program is on life support. Need a spark bad. The money lost due to fan apathy will FAR outweigh any buyout figure there is with Sadler. Sadly, our AD and many fans can't see this.

Sadler won 89 games his first 5 years at Nebraska, which was all-time record high. He was just the 2nd coach since WW II to put up 3 winning seasons out of his first 4. It was freaking Nebraska. Going to the NIT 3 out of 5 years as he did was high cotton for them at the time. Things did go south, but Nebraska was also moving/had moved to the Big Ten during that time. Nebraska athletics in general had a difficult time making that transition, not just Sadler.

Look, he was never John Wooden, and the game may well have passed him by at this point, but he’s done as well here as any reasonable person could expect under the circumstances he’s been given. To say otherwise is just the rantings of ignorance.

We could hire the reanimated corpse of Elvis as the HC, and it won’t suddenly fill the arena or bring in money any faster than Sadler rebuilding a contender if he can do it. Give him one more year to show if he can. If we’re still hapless against decent competition, part ways. Literally no one will argue against that.
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RE: Another game where Sadler makes ZERO 2nd half adjustments
(02-10-2018 03:23 PM)TheChosenOne Wrote:  Since you feel so strongly about keeping him maybe you should purchase all unsold tickets. See how that works.

Yeah, about that...

If people would actually support a program instead of picking and choosing which coach’s cult they want to join, unsold tickets would be a real catalyst for change around here instead of the norm. Hell, we might even have facilities and a salary good enough to not have to resort to hiring known cheats and reclamation projects in the first place.
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RE: Another game where Sadler makes ZERO 2nd half adjustments
(02-11-2018 02:05 PM)HarborPointe Wrote:  
(02-10-2018 03:23 PM)TheChosenOne Wrote:  Since you feel so strongly about keeping him maybe you should purchase all unsold tickets. See how that works.

Yeah, about that...

If people would actually support a program instead of picking and choosing which coach’s cult they want to join, unsold tickets would be a real catalyst for change around here instead of the norm. Hell, we might even have facilities and a salary good enough to not have to resort to hiring known cheats and reclamation projects in the first place.

So very glad to hear you’re a large contributor to each sports program sponsored by the university. I’m sure your contributions are appreciated
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RE: Another game where Sadler makes ZERO 2nd half adjustments
(02-11-2018 03:01 PM)TheChosenOne Wrote:  
(02-11-2018 02:05 PM)HarborPointe Wrote:  
(02-10-2018 03:23 PM)TheChosenOne Wrote:  Since you feel so strongly about keeping him maybe you should purchase all unsold tickets. See how that works.

Yeah, about that...

If people would actually support a program instead of picking and choosing which coach’s cult they want to join, unsold tickets would be a real catalyst for change around here instead of the norm. Hell, we might even have facilities and a salary good enough to not have to resort to hiring known cheats and reclamation projects in the first place.

So very glad to hear you’re a large contributor to each sports program sponsored by the university. I’m sure your contributions are appreciated

My gosh, “Specious” is your middle name.
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RE: Another game where Sadler makes ZERO 2nd half adjustments
(02-11-2018 05:16 PM)RockTheRock Wrote:  
(02-11-2018 03:01 PM)TheChosenOne Wrote:  
(02-11-2018 02:05 PM)HarborPointe Wrote:  
(02-10-2018 03:23 PM)TheChosenOne Wrote:  Since you feel so strongly about keeping him maybe you should purchase all unsold tickets. See how that works.

Yeah, about that...

If people would actually support a program instead of picking and choosing which coach’s cult they want to join, unsold tickets would be a real catalyst for change around here instead of the norm. Hell, we might even have facilities and a salary good enough to not have to resort to hiring known cheats and reclamation projects in the first place.

So very glad to hear you’re a large contributor to each sports program sponsored by the university. I’m sure your contributions are appreciated

My gosh, “Specious” is your middle name.

Okay Ostrich Boy.....
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(02-11-2018 03:01 PM)TheChosenOne Wrote:  So very glad to hear you’re a large contributor to each sports program sponsored by the university. I’m sure your contributions are appreciated.

I was told they are.

In writing.

Twice.

Last week.
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(02-11-2018 01:53 PM)HarborPointe Wrote:  We could hire the reanimated corpse of Elvis as the HC, and it won’t suddenly fill the arena or bring in money any faster than Sadler rebuilding a contender if he can do it.

I'm going to disagree. If this actually happened, we wouldn't have a problem filling the arena, just not necessarily with Southern Miss fans.
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(02-11-2018 09:25 PM)HarborPointe Wrote:  
(02-11-2018 03:01 PM)TheChosenOne Wrote:  So very glad to hear you’re a large contributor to each sports program sponsored by the university. I’m sure your contributions are appreciated.

I was told they are.

In writing.

Twice.

Last week.

04-bow04-bow04-bow well done, sir. Touché
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RE: Another game where Sadler makes ZERO 2nd half adjustments
(02-11-2018 05:16 PM)RockTheRock Wrote:  
(02-11-2018 03:01 PM)TheChosenOne Wrote:  
(02-11-2018 02:05 PM)HarborPointe Wrote:  
(02-10-2018 03:23 PM)TheChosenOne Wrote:  Since you feel so strongly about keeping him maybe you should purchase all unsold tickets. See how that works.

Yeah, about that...

If people would actually support a program instead of picking and choosing which coach’s cult they want to join, unsold tickets would be a real catalyst for change around here instead of the norm. Hell, we might even have facilities and a salary good enough to not have to resort to hiring known cheats and reclamation projects in the first place.

So very glad to hear you’re a large contributor to each sports program sponsored by the university. I’m sure your contributions are appreciated

My gosh, “Specious” is your middle name.
Is he related to anyone named Verdant?
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RE: Another game where Sadler makes ZERO 2nd half adjustments
(02-11-2018 01:53 PM)HarborPointe Wrote:  Sadler won 89 games his first 5 years at Nebraska, which was all-time record high. He was just the 2nd coach since WW II to put up 3 winning seasons out of his first 4. It was freaking Nebraska. Going to the NIT 3 out of 5 years as he did was high cotton for them at the time. Things did go south, but Nebraska was also moving/had moved to the Big Ten during that time. Nebraska athletics in general had a difficult time making that transition, not just Sadler.

Who cares about fluffing a schedule w/ a bunch of wins against NOBODY to inflate your overall record....those 89 wins came against the likes of:

Lubbock Christian, Omaha, Ark-Pinn Bluff, UNT, Alabama A&M, Wyoming, Savannah State, Presbyterian, Ft. Wayne, UNC-Central, Maryland-Eastern Shore, Alabama State, South Carolina State, San Jose State, Florida A&M, South Carolina Upstate, UMKC, Hofstra, Eastern Washington, Grambling, UT Rio Grande Valley, Jackson State, Southern Utah, SE Louisiana, Norfolk State, South Dakota, Rhode Island, Alcorn State, CMU...yeah. Talk about inflation.

...and Nebraska wasn't in the B10 until the '11-'12 season...his last season there. And CONFERENCE games are what is important. Here, let's look at the actual data for Sadler's conference record at Nebraska:

06-07 (still Big12): 6-10
07-08 (still Big12): 7-9
08-09 (still Big12): 8-8
09-10 (still Big12): 2-14
10-11 (still Big12): 7-9
11-12 (Big10): 4-14
Total conf. record while at Neb: 34-64 (.347 winning %)

He's not a good coach, that's why Nebraska fired him. And what makes anyone think that's going to change while at Southern Miss!!??? Everyone keeps on wanting to use the Tyndall-excuse...but that's just rantings of ignorance if you ask me. Look, he's done admirably for us in the wake of the Tyndall-gate. But it's time for a new coach. He was only a means to an end. It's a tough business.
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(02-13-2018 12:33 PM)TTT Wrote:  CONFERENCE games are what is important.

Since when?
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(02-13-2018 12:33 PM)TTT Wrote:  CONFERENCE games are what is important.

And by that standard, he’s currently 1 game under .500 with only 9 scholarship players and 1 actual recruiting class.

Quote:Here, let's look at the actual data for Sadler's conference record at Nebraska:

06-07 (still Big12): 6-10
07-08 (still Big12): 7-9
08-09 (still Big12): 8-8
09-10 (still Big12): 2-14
10-11 (still Big12): 7-9
11-12 (Big10): 4-14
Total conf. record while at Neb: 34-64 (.347 winning %)

Yep. Now compare that to the 100+ years of Nebraska basketball before he got there. See that 8-8 season? That’s the first time they’d finished at least .500 in conference in 10 freaking years.

You also gloss over the fact that he did well enough at UTEP to get hired by Nebraska in the first place.

Is he in the upper echelon of D-1 coaches? Nope. Don’t think anybody ever said he was. Is he as hapless as you rush here to argue after every loss? Nope. What he is is an OK head coach handed an impossible situation that’s just now coming to an end.

Frankly, whether or not he gets one more year to see what he can do here or not isn’t going to forever change the fate of the program one way or the other. Our inability to bring our playing arena out of the 1950s is far more worthy of everyone’s attention as far as that goes.

Quote:it's time for a new coach.

There’s only one way to make that happen at this point. Hop to it if you feel so strongly about it.
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Sadler reminds me a lot of Shannon Dawson. Some games I sit back and watch and I’m like “why did I ever doubt him, he looks like a pretty good X’s and O’s coach”. Then the very next game I’ll watch and think “do we even have a gameplan ? He’s not even trying to run anything.”

After the La Tech game, even though it wouldn’t have mattered what we did on offense the way Tech shot the ball, I was very down on Doc because we didn’t seem to run any offensive sets with an ounce of creativity. We just stood around and watched one guy play. The last 3-4 games we’ve run a set at least half the time down the court and he looks like a heck of an offensive coach. Now I’m thinking he’s a decent coach again and a good big man away from contending for the C-USA title next year. But I’m sure somewhere in the next 2 weeks we’ll throw in a clunker where we don’t run anything on offense.
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