salukiblue
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"They all think they should be winning right away"
https://www.commercialappeal.com/story/s...312435002/
"...But I know we’re on the right path. I know we got the right people here, right people in place, and it’s never easy,” Smith continued. “And it’s always been the same wherever I’ve been, whether it’s Tulsa, Georgia, Texas Tech, Minnesota.
“They all think they should be winning right away. They all think the coach, but I think the first thing I said when I took the job here was, ‘patience,’ and that’s what I’ve always believed in: Patience. It just doesn’t happen. So it’s been a few years now, but we’re getting there...”
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tiger1016
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RE: "They all think they should be winning right away"
Delusional
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02-07-2018 09:46 AM |
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RE: "They all think they should be winning right away"
Quote:But Smith also lamented the mistakes made in critical moments, mistakes that this group of eight new scholarship players has been making all season long, and how Wichita State took advantage of them. How the pregame emphasis had been on boxing out and rebounding, and yet the Shockers were “manhandling us on the boards.” How “our starters just didn’t produce.” How this team is still learning “every possession is important.”
You can teach all you want, but there is a ceiling when it comes to performance because your players are not as big, not as strong, not as quick and not as skilled as any decent opponent. The players are doing as well as can be expected.
At least Tubby finally sort of accepted some responsibility and acknowledged that recruiting is important.
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02-07-2018 09:47 AM |
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RE: "They all think they should be winning right away"
(02-07-2018 09:47 AM)Stammers Wrote: Quote:But Smith also lamented the mistakes made in critical moments, mistakes that this group of eight new scholarship players has been making all season long, and how Wichita State took advantage of them. How the pregame emphasis had been on boxing out and rebounding, and yet the Shockers were “manhandling us on the boards.” How “our starters just didn’t produce.” How this team is still learning “every possession is important.”
You can teach all you want, but there is a ceiling when it comes to performance because your players are not as big, not as strong, not as quick and not as skilled as any decent opponent. The players are doing as well as can be expected.
At least Tubby finally sort of accepted some responsibility and acknowledged that recruiting is important.
Except he mentioned redshirting players. My freaking God, that's a 25 year ago thing.
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RE: "They all think they should be winning right away"
The quote in there about him and his staff “busting their tails” and the quote about redshirting guys shows how out of touch he actually is
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02-07-2018 09:52 AM |
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RE: "They all think they should be winning right away"
(02-07-2018 09:46 AM)tiger1016 Wrote: Delusional
Or deceptive?
I guess it doesn't matter-both lead to the results we are getting. But again, Tubby's saying it's OUR fault as fans is tragically poor leadership.
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02-07-2018 09:53 AM |
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RE: "They all think they should be winning right away"
(02-07-2018 09:40 AM)salukiblue Wrote:
https://www.commercialappeal.com/story/s...312435002/
"...But I know we’re on the right path. I know we got the right people here, right people in place, and it’s never easy,” Smith continued. “And it’s always been the same wherever I’ve been, whether it’s Tulsa, Georgia, Texas Tech, Minnesota.
“They all think they should be winning right away. They all think the coach, but I think the first thing I said when I took the job here was, ‘patience,’ and that’s what I’ve always believed in: Patience. It just doesn’t happen. So it’s been a few years now, but we’re getting there...”
Have patience and we are doing it the right way are the retorts of loser coaches all over the country.
Most coaches have the decency to recruit freshman they say they’re doing it the right way and not five Juco transfers
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02-07-2018 09:53 AM |
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Stammers
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RE: "They all think they should be winning right away"
I was brutal with Larry for most of his tenure, but I sure softened up after I saw up close during the 1997 season that he was ill. Maybe Tubby isn't, but I am going to take the same stance with him now. I know he puts his foot in his mouth, but his recent statements suggest that maybe something isn't right. I pray that I'm wrong.
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02-07-2018 09:55 AM |
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RE: "They all think they should be winning right away"
Oh good. He thinks everything is fine.
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RE: "They all think they should be winning right away"
(02-07-2018 09:53 AM)holyterror Wrote: (02-07-2018 09:46 AM)tiger1016 Wrote: Delusional
Or deceptive?
I guess it doesn't matter-both lead to the results we are getting. But again, Tubby's saying it's OUR fault as fans is tragically poor leadership.
Yep. Deflecting blame by calling the fans unrealistic. He knows exactly what he's doing
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RE: "They all think they should be winning right away"
Who was it that said fans would be the next to get thrown under the bus by Tubby? Good call. Now we all shouldn't expect to win in year 2. What he fails to mention is that he ran off most of the existing talent we had on the team and had to scramble by signing JUCOs and no help is on the way with incoming recruits. We don't expect a national championship, or even a NCAA bid really, but we do expect to beat ECU and not lose by 20 on our home floor to anyone. In the end, the coach is responsible for the product that is put on the court and what is on the court is subpar to what Memphis should be. No offense to the players, because they're playing their hearts out, but Tubby shouldn't have put them in this position in the first place. He's blamed everyone except himself and the other coaches sitting next to him.
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02-07-2018 10:08 AM |
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RE: "They all think they should be winning right away"
(02-07-2018 09:50 AM)jgardne Wrote: (02-07-2018 09:47 AM)Stammers Wrote: Quote:But Smith also lamented the mistakes made in critical moments, mistakes that this group of eight new scholarship players has been making all season long, and how Wichita State took advantage of them. How the pregame emphasis had been on boxing out and rebounding, and yet the Shockers were “manhandling us on the boards.” How “our starters just didn’t produce.” How this team is still learning “every possession is important.”
You can teach all you want, but there is a ceiling when it comes to performance because your players are not as big, not as strong, not as quick and not as skilled as any decent opponent. The players are doing as well as can be expected.
At least Tubby finally sort of accepted some responsibility and acknowledged that recruiting is important.
Except he mentioned redshirting players. My freaking God, that's a 25 year ago thing.
Connor Vanover? It would be what’s best for the program. Even more so now that you see the product that will be on the floor next year. Redshirt the kid and get him bigger/stronger for the 2019-2020 season.
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02-07-2018 10:23 AM |
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RE: "They all think they should be winning right away"
(02-07-2018 09:57 AM)ksigtigerdood Wrote: Yep. Deflecting blame by calling the fans unrealistic. He knows exactly what he's doing
Or Tubby has no mirror.
(This post was last modified: 02-07-2018 10:25 AM by Tigers2B1.)
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02-07-2018 10:24 AM |
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RE: "They all think they should be winning right away"
(02-07-2018 09:46 AM)tiger1016 Wrote: Delusional
THIS
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02-07-2018 10:32 AM |
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RE: "They all think they should be winning right away"
(02-07-2018 10:08 AM)WColt45 Wrote: Who was it that said fans would be the next to get thrown under the bus by Tubby? Good call. Now we all shouldn't expect to win in year 2. What he fails to mention is that he ran off most of the existing talent we had on the team and had to scramble by signing JUCOs and no help is on the way with incoming recruits. We don't expect a national championship, or even a NCAA bid really, but we do expect to beat ECU and not lose by 20 on our home floor to anyone. In the end, the coach is responsible for the product that is put on the court and what is on the court is subpar to what Memphis should be. No offense to the players, because they're playing their hearts out, but Tubby shouldn't have put them in this position in the first place. He's blamed everyone except himself and the other coaches sitting next to him.
Also this!!
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RE: "They all think they should be winning right away"
He acts like the program was at rock bottom when he arrived. He needed 1 good recruiting class to get back to the NCAA's. He didn't do it and now blames 'expectations'.
The words I hope Dr Rudd hears from his wife "Honey, I through with the Tub, drain it..."
(This post was last modified: 02-07-2018 10:39 AM by midtowncowboy.)
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RE: "They all think they should be winning right away"
He inherited an underachieving, high talent team.
He ran off most of said talent.
He created a overachieving, lower talent team.
He has not gotten talent on par with what he inherited.
He needs to recruit more talent.
Or he needs to leave.
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RE: "They all think they should be winning right away"
(02-07-2018 10:08 AM)WColt45 Wrote: Who was it that said fans would be the next to get thrown under the bus by Tubby? Good call. Now we all shouldn't expect to win in year 2. What he fails to mention is that he ran off most of the existing talent we had on the team and had to scramble by signing JUCOs and no help is on the way with incoming recruits. We don't expect a national championship, or even a NCAA bid really, but we do expect to beat ECU and not lose by 20 on our home floor to anyone. In the end, the coach is responsible for the product that is put on the court and what is on the court is subpar to what Memphis should be. No offense to the players, because they're playing their hearts out, but Tubby shouldn't have put them in this position in the first place. He's blamed everyone except himself and the other coaches sitting next to him.
Well said. I yield the remainder of my time to WColt45.
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RE: "They all think they should be winning right away"
(02-07-2018 10:38 AM)midtowncowboy Wrote: He acts like the program was at rock bottom when he arrived. He needed 1 good recruiting class to get back to the NCAA's. He didn't do it and now blames 'expectations'.
This x 1 million
This old coot walked into a program with Dedric, KJ, Crawford and Jeremiah. He made no effort to keep Nick Marshall or Avery Woodson. 1st thing he did was take a vacation.
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RE: "They all think they should be winning right away"
(02-07-2018 10:51 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote: (02-07-2018 10:38 AM)midtowncowboy Wrote: He acts like the program was at rock bottom when he arrived. He needed 1 good recruiting class to get back to the NCAA's. He didn't do it and now blames 'expectations'.
This x 1 million
This old coot walked into a program with Dedric, KJ, Crawford and Jeremiah. He made no effort to keep Nick Marshall or Avery Woodson. 1st thing he did was take a vacation.
And I yield my time to this feller as long as doesn’t go ape poop ...
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