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Marc Mensa
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RE: Trey Gowdy admits he's a bad politician
He didn't like toting the party line when he knew it was wrong.
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RE: Trey Gowdy admits he's a bad politician
(02-05-2018 06:00 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote: He didn't like toting the party line when he knew it was wrong.
Wouldn't it be nice if that was a requirement to hold office? That'd really mess with both Dems and Reps.
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RE: Trey Gowdy admits he's a bad politician
I hope he's named special prosecutor to investigate Hillary's basement server. He wouldn't stop with Cankles.
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02-05-2018 06:08 PM |
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RE: Trey Gowdy admits he's a bad politician
For several elections I held my nose and voted for a liberal House member because he had the stones to vote what he thought was right regardless of what the Democratic party thought and sometimes what the district thought, he was more liberal than his district but he was a straight shooter and never tap danced. His office was the go to if you had a veteran having trouble with VA, even if you didn't live in his district.
Democrats made noise about cutting off campaign money and running a "real" Democrat against him. He said screw it and came home. Democrats haven't won the seat since but sadly we have had a string of bought and paid fors who provide lousy constituent services and just tow the line of the pac money.
DC is going to be fecal waste pond until we get straight shooters willing to risk re-election.
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02-05-2018 06:09 PM |
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Marc Mensa
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RE: Trey Gowdy admits he's a bad politician
(02-05-2018 06:05 PM)umbluegray Wrote: (02-05-2018 06:00 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote: He didn't like toting the party line when he knew it was wrong.
Wouldn't it be nice if that was a requirement to hold office? That'd really mess with both Dems and Reps.
I agree. I certainly have more respect for Trey Gowdy now than I did a year ago.
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stinkfist
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RE: Trey Gowdy admits he's a bad politician
(02-05-2018 05:42 PM)shere khan Wrote: (02-05-2018 05:17 PM)cb4029 Wrote: http://thehill.com/homenews/house/372208...politician
At least he's honest. One lemming down. Many to go.
Too good for politics.
XACLY!
cb and the other 'party before country' on there knees only understand 'their' game.....
hence, #termlimits that work towards a long term logical solution....
pay 'em their worth to write solid laws and legislate on the front end....eliminate insider leveraging, and let's see how those chips fall moving forward.....
it's amazing how too many get caught up in what DJT simply exposed......
as I knew I would, I've grown tired of this bs banter......
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RE: Trey Gowdy admits he's a bad politician
Alternately, even though he's said he didn't want the job, Trump could name him AG after he runs off the limp-wristed Sessions.
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02-05-2018 06:16 PM |
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arkstfan
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RE: Trey Gowdy admits he's a bad politician
(02-05-2018 06:16 PM)stinkfist Wrote: (02-05-2018 05:42 PM)shere khan Wrote: (02-05-2018 05:17 PM)cb4029 Wrote: http://thehill.com/homenews/house/372208...politician
At least he's honest. One lemming down. Many to go.
Too good for politics.
XACLY!
cb and the other 'party before country' on there knees only understand 'their' game.....
hence, #termlimits that work towards a long term logical solution....
pay 'em their worth to write solid laws and legislate on the front end....eliminate insider leveraging, and let's see how those chips fall moving forward.....
it's amazing how too many get caught up in what DJT simply exposed......
as I knew I would, I've grown tired of this bs banter......
I'm not happy with what I've seen of term limits in Arkansas. Guys are coming in grabbing what they can fast as they can. After three terms people with mediocre resumes before becoming elected are suddenly landing great jobs in the industries they helped or worse getting in doing things designed to bolster their own business.
Term limits HAS to be tied to much tougher ethics laws is what I've learned or else they are in panic trying to snag everything they can before they term out.
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RE: Trey Gowdy admits he's a bad politician
(02-05-2018 06:22 PM)arkstfan Wrote: (02-05-2018 06:16 PM)stinkfist Wrote: (02-05-2018 05:42 PM)shere khan Wrote: (02-05-2018 05:17 PM)cb4029 Wrote: http://thehill.com/homenews/house/372208...politician
At least he's honest. One lemming down. Many to go.
Too good for politics.
XACLY!
cb and the other 'party before country' on there knees only understand 'their' game.....
hence, #termlimits that work towards a long term logical solution....
pay 'em their worth to write solid laws and legislate on the front end....eliminate insider leveraging, and let's see how those chips fall moving forward.....
it's amazing how too many get caught up in what DJT simply exposed......
as I knew I would, I've grown tired of this bs banter......
I'm not happy with what I've seen of term limits in Arkansas. Guys are coming in grabbing what they can fast as they can. After three terms people with mediocre resumes before becoming elected are suddenly landing great jobs in the industries they helped or worse getting in doing things designed to bolster their own business.
Term limits HAS to be tied to much tougher ethics laws is what I've learned or else they are in panic trying to snag everything they can before they term out.
Interesting perspective. I've been strongly in favor, at least conceptually, of term limits. What you've referenced is not something I've given any thought to. Thanks.
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stinkfist
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RE: Trey Gowdy admits he's a bad politician
(02-05-2018 06:26 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote: (02-05-2018 06:22 PM)arkstfan Wrote: (02-05-2018 06:16 PM)stinkfist Wrote: (02-05-2018 05:42 PM)shere khan Wrote: (02-05-2018 05:17 PM)cb4029 Wrote: http://thehill.com/homenews/house/372208...politician
At least he's honest. One lemming down. Many to go.
Too good for politics.
XACLY!
cb and the other 'party before country' on there knees only understand 'their' game.....
hence, #termlimits that work towards a long term logical solution....
pay 'em their worth to write solid laws and legislate on the front end....eliminate insider leveraging, and let's see how those chips fall moving forward.....
it's amazing how too many get caught up in what DJT simply exposed......
as I knew I would, I've grown tired of this bs banter......
I'm not happy with what I've seen of term limits in Arkansas. Guys are coming in grabbing what they can fast as they can. After three terms people with mediocre resumes before becoming elected are suddenly landing great jobs in the industries they helped or worse getting in doing things designed to bolster their own business.
Term limits HAS to be tied to much tougher ethics laws is what I've learned or else they are in panic trying to snag everything they can before they term out.
Interesting perspective. I've been strongly in favor, at least conceptually, of term limits. What you've referenced is not something I've given any thought to. Thanks.
whether the state, city, or fed level, that's where 'real oversight' comes into play....
I completely agree...
it's a comprehensive change that has to happen in tandem or it won't work.....
edit: the question still remains..... is it too embeded to take a stab at 'that' reform....
I'm not holding my breath.....especially at the local/state level in oversight....
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stinkfist
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RE: Trey Gowdy admits he's a bad politician
(02-05-2018 06:16 PM)TechRocks Wrote: Alternately, even though he's said he didn't want the job, Trump could name him AG after he runs off the limp-wristed Sessions.
that's plausible....and what some of us were begging for awhile back....
you'd have to ask him.....
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RE: Trey Gowdy admits he's a bad politician
(02-05-2018 06:44 PM)stinkfist Wrote: (02-05-2018 06:26 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote: (02-05-2018 06:22 PM)arkstfan Wrote: (02-05-2018 06:16 PM)stinkfist Wrote: (02-05-2018 05:42 PM)shere khan Wrote: Too good for politics.
XACLY!
cb and the other 'party before country' on there knees only understand 'their' game.....
hence, #termlimits that work towards a long term logical solution....
pay 'em their worth to write solid laws and legislate on the front end....eliminate insider leveraging, and let's see how those chips fall moving forward.....
it's amazing how too many get caught up in what DJT simply exposed......
as I knew I would, I've grown tired of this bs banter......
I'm not happy with what I've seen of term limits in Arkansas. Guys are coming in grabbing what they can fast as they can. After three terms people with mediocre resumes before becoming elected are suddenly landing great jobs in the industries they helped or worse getting in doing things designed to bolster their own business.
Term limits HAS to be tied to much tougher ethics laws is what I've learned or else they are in panic trying to snag everything they can before they term out.
Interesting perspective. I've been strongly in favor, at least conceptually, of term limits. What you've referenced is not something I've given any thought to. Thanks.
whether the state, city, or fed level, that's where 'real oversight' comes into play....
I completely agree...
it's a comprehensive change that has to happen in tandem or it won't work.....
edit: the question still remains..... is it too embeded to take a stab at 'that' reform....
I'm not holding my breath.....especially at the local/state level in oversight....
The ethics limitations are the critical element. Shepherd through "banking reform" and you end up in a high paying banking job when you leave or you push Medicaid "reform" and your wife owns a company that profits you've got a problem, or as we had, a guy who owned several daycares pushed deregulation of daycares and no one noticed until a kid died at one when left in a van in the summer when the driver failed to have the required alarm (when the van is turned off it makes a terrible noise, you have to go to the back to turn it off so it forces you to see if there are any kids still on the van). Term limits push you to act fast and act big instead of playing the long-game like the old time legislators did. They didn't try to get everything they needed to benefit in six years.
I just think it is wildly improbable that an amendment would ever make it through at the Federal level.
Right now I'd settle for changing House terms to four years and Senate to eight and making them line up with presidential elections ending off the year elections. I think it would dial down the crazy because elections wouldn't be so frequent and it cuts down the pressure to constantly fund-raise.
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RE: Trey Gowdy admits he's a bad politician
(02-05-2018 06:16 PM)TechRocks Wrote: Alternately, even though he's said he didn't want the job, Trump could name him AG after he runs off the limp-wristed Sessions.
I continue to think Sessions is gonna surprise a LOT of us in the near future. His job isn't to be out there making speeches, holding pressers or tweeting. Leave that to the schittalker in chief.
As I've said, Like a duck on a pond.
These wheels aturnin', those legs aswimmin.
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02-06-2018 12:33 AM |
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RE: Trey Gowdy admits he's a bad politician
(02-06-2018 12:21 AM)arkstfan Wrote: (02-05-2018 06:44 PM)stinkfist Wrote: (02-05-2018 06:26 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote: (02-05-2018 06:22 PM)arkstfan Wrote: (02-05-2018 06:16 PM)stinkfist Wrote: XACLY!
cb and the other 'party before country' on there knees only understand 'their' game.....
hence, #termlimits that work towards a long term logical solution....
pay 'em their worth to write solid laws and legislate on the front end....eliminate insider leveraging, and let's see how those chips fall moving forward.....
it's amazing how too many get caught up in what DJT simply exposed......
as I knew I would, I've grown tired of this bs banter......
I'm not happy with what I've seen of term limits in Arkansas. Guys are coming in grabbing what they can fast as they can. After three terms people with mediocre resumes before becoming elected are suddenly landing great jobs in the industries they helped or worse getting in doing things designed to bolster their own business.
Term limits HAS to be tied to much tougher ethics laws is what I've learned or else they are in panic trying to snag everything they can before they term out.
Interesting perspective. I've been strongly in favor, at least conceptually, of term limits. What you've referenced is not something I've given any thought to. Thanks.
whether the state, city, or fed level, that's where 'real oversight' comes into play....
I completely agree...
it's a comprehensive change that has to happen in tandem or it won't work.....
edit: the question still remains..... is it too embeded to take a stab at 'that' reform....
I'm not holding my breath.....especially at the local/state level in oversight....
The ethics limitations are the critical element. Shepherd through "banking reform" and you end up in a high paying banking job when you leave or you push Medicaid "reform" and your wife owns a company that profits you've got a problem, or as we had, a guy who owned several daycares pushed deregulation of daycares and no one noticed until a kid died at one when left in a van in the summer when the driver failed to have the required alarm (when the van is turned off it makes a terrible noise, you have to go to the back to turn it off so it forces you to see if there are any kids still on the van). Term limits push you to act fast and act big instead of playing the long-game like the old time legislators did. They didn't try to get everything they needed to benefit in six years.
I just think it is wildly improbable that an amendment would ever make it through at the Federal level.
Right now I'd settle for changing House terms to four years and Senate to eight and making them line up with presidential elections ending off the year elections. I think it would dial down the crazy because elections wouldn't be so frequent and it cuts down the pressure to constantly fund-raise.
no question the ethics issue is a monster.....
I like that last posit.....it would still require an amendment.....no differently than the 22nd amendment....you'd be changing the term periods for both and would have to extend some existing house/senate terms to achieve that synergy.....
however, that's a pretty dayum good idea relative to today's scenario....
I'm hardly a constitutional laureate, but I would assume the 2 yr limit for the house was due to what became gerrymandering.....
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stinkfist
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RE: Trey Gowdy admits he's a bad politician
(02-06-2018 12:33 AM)JMUDunk Wrote: (02-05-2018 06:16 PM)TechRocks Wrote: Alternately, even though he's said he didn't want the job, Trump could name him AG after he runs off the limp-wristed Sessions.
I continue to think Sessions is gonna surprise a LOT of us in the near future. His job isn't to be out there making speeches, holding pressers or tweeting. Leave that to the schittalker in chief.
As I've said, Like a duck on a pond.
These wheels aturnin', those legs aswimmin.
I can only hope you're right....
fwiw, there's this......my head sunk when that goofball came with that posit.....it's stupid to pursue at this point.....I'll never support any form of what tricky dick created w/o a fk'n clue what he was talking about....
http://www.newsweek.com/members-congress...ana-791086
Quote:Bipartisan lawmakers are urging the Trump administration to back off of marijuana, they wrote in a letter on Thursday.
The letter, an effort spearheaded by Senator Elizabeth Warren, Democrat of Massachusetts and Representative Jared Polis, Democrat of Colorado, urged the president to stand in Attorney General Jeff Sessions' way as he attempts to roll back protections for marijuana in the United States, focusing on the president's campaign promises to leave marijuana alone. Fifty-four members of Congress signed.
"As a candidate, you stated: 'I really believe we should leave [marijuana] up to the states' and that 'it's got to be a state decision.' We trust that you still hold this belief, and we request that you urge the Attorney General to reinstate the Cole Memorandum," the letter read.
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RE: Trey Gowdy admits he's a bad politician
(02-05-2018 06:09 PM)arkstfan Wrote: For several elections I held my nose and voted for a liberal House member because he had the stones to vote what he thought was right regardless of what the Democratic party thought and sometimes what the district thought, he was more liberal than his district but he was a straight shooter and never tap danced. His office was the go to if you had a veteran having trouble with VA, even if you didn't live in his district.
Democrats made noise about cutting off campaign money and running a "real" Democrat against him. He said screw it and came home. Democrats haven't won the seat since but sadly we have had a string of bought and paid fors who provide lousy constituent services and just tow the line of the pac money.
DC is going to be fecal waste pond until we get straight shooters willing to risk re-election.
I would fight for the country, not for the party. That is wrong on both sides of the asle. Tom Cotton is for the party, and not what is best for the people. Same thing with Democrats like Pelosi and Schumer. It is time to get rid of these people and elect people who are for the people and not for the party. Regan's Compassionate Conservative have died a long time ago. He would be rolling in his grave right now on how far right the Republicans have became. JFK is rolling in his grave on how far right the Democrats have gone. There is such things as a Compassionate Liberal as well. If the Compassionate R and the Compassionate D come together to passed bills that are not too far right and not too far left? We might be able to get our country back on track.
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02-06-2018 07:23 AM |
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RE: Trey Gowdy admits he's a bad politician
(02-05-2018 06:14 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote: (02-05-2018 06:05 PM)umbluegray Wrote: (02-05-2018 06:00 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote: He didn't like toting the party line when he knew it was wrong.
Wouldn't it be nice if that was a requirement to hold office? That'd really mess with both Dems and Reps.
I agree. I certainly have more respect for Trey Gowdy now than I did a year ago.
Agree. Even though he reminds me of the spoiled brat in Harry Potter, I have new found respect for him, same as McCain and sometimes even Graham.
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RE: Trey Gowdy admits he's a bad politician
(02-06-2018 12:33 AM)JMUDunk Wrote: (02-05-2018 06:16 PM)TechRocks Wrote: Alternately, even though he's said he didn't want the job, Trump could name him AG after he runs off the limp-wristed Sessions.
I continue to think Sessions is gonna surprise a LOT of us in the near future. His job isn't to be out there making speeches, holding pressers or tweeting. Leave that to the schittalker in chief.
As I've said, Like a duck on a pond.
These wheels aturnin', those legs aswimmin.
I hope you're right.
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