(02-06-2018 02:31 PM)BandwagonJumper Wrote:  

(02-06-2018 01:30 PM)BandwagonJumper Wrote:  

(02-05-2018 10:44 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  Then we still have the TSSAA lawsuit in play and how it will playout.

Good catch. The TSSAA would definitely not allow any of Penny's players to follow him to Memphis.

Word on the street is TSSAA looking at suspending Penny from coaching anywhere in TN for 1-3 years, so Memphis is out.

Wrong log in, breh.

(02-06-2018 08:56 AM)holyterror Wrote:  

(02-06-2018 08:38 AM)DDrum1961 Wrote:  

(02-05-2018 03:01 PM)Joe1 Wrote:  Not trying to argue but... why would Marshall allow Lomax to transfer to Memphis considering Wichita State is in our conference?

Another question to ask is... if we hire Penny can he bring in Tyler Harris, Wiseman, C. Lomax, and Dandridge? If the answer is yes and Penny said he could bring them with him, it’s a no-brainer. You hire Penny. Period. Nobody wins without talent.

Penny is already an Ambassador and current friend of the program, so he should already have some influence ... Why aren't these guys committing to the Tigers now ?? Whether he is an actual coach at the University or not; he should be able to steer players our way, no matter who is coaching or what the situation is; and he hasn't been able to ... That's the main reason I question him as being the right person for a coaching position ...

I'd like to think Penny cares enough for his players to not steer them into a dysfunctional meat grinder of a program.

A catch 22 isn't it. Isn't the biggest complaint against Tubby that he can't recruit. Give him that level of talent and no telling how well he could do.

(02-06-2018 02:51 PM)jamammy Wrote:  

(02-06-2018 02:31 PM)BandwagonJumper Wrote:  

(02-06-2018 01:30 PM)BandwagonJumper Wrote:  

(02-05-2018 10:44 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  Then we still have the TSSAA lawsuit in play and how it will playout.

Good catch. The TSSAA would definitely not allow any of Penny's players to follow him to Memphis.

Word on the street is TSSAA looking at suspending Penny from coaching anywhere in TN for 1-3 years, so Memphis is out.

Wrong log in, breh.

IKR

(02-06-2018 02:31 PM)BandwagonJumper Wrote:  

(02-06-2018 01:30 PM)BandwagonJumper Wrote:  

(02-05-2018 10:44 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  Then we still have the TSSAA lawsuit in play and how it will playout.

Good catch. The TSSAA would definitely not allow any of Penny's players to follow him to Memphis.

Word on the street is TSSAA looking at suspending Penny from coaching anywhere in TN for 1-3 years, so Memphis is out.

How does the TSSAA have any say at the college level? The NCAA governs college basketball. TSSAA governs HS.

(02-06-2018 01:30 PM)BandwagonJumper Wrote:  

(02-05-2018 10:44 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  Then we still have the TSSAA lawsuit in play and how it will playout.

Good catch. The TSSAA would definitely not allow any of Penny's players to follow him to Memphis.

The TSAA has no say in where players go to college. Just because you play high school basketball doesn't mean they run your life.

The problem is that if Penny was offered and became the HC at Memphis, he would have to disband Team Penny. Then his current players would have to find another AAU club. Maybe a rival club that would not be so willing to help Penny get players to Memphis. Penny could not maintain his AAU team because then the NCAA could take issue with his ties to an AAU club and allowing him to funnel players to play for him at Memphis. That is why I'm not sold on giving the job to Penny, who has no college coaching experience. All of us have our own opinion. I would feel better myself if Penny stayed at the AAU level with his team and the next Memphis hire would be someone who Penny might have a good relationship with that is a good recruiter and would encourage Penny to start sending some of his players to come to Memphis. Someone like a Will Wade at LSU, who I would have liked to have beforehand, but probably would not take this job now. I've heard other names thrown out before like Eric Musselman at Nevada. Earl Grant at College of Charleston is a young head coach that spent 6 years prior as an assistant to Greg Marshall at Wichita State. His club is doing well this year. Or, someone along those lines who could recruit. I wouldn't even mind some up and coming assistant for a proven head coach that was a top notch recruiter. Say like an David Patrick at TCU, Jon Scheyer at Duke, or Ron Sanchez at Virginia. I think any of those would have enough background experience at the college level, and are very good at recruiting, that could bring us back to where Tiger Basketball can again become relevant.

(02-07-2018 11:34 AM)RandyW_Class83 Wrote:  The problem is that if Penny was offered and became the HC at Memphis, he would have to disband Team Penny. Then his current players would have to find another AAU club. Maybe a rival club that would not be so willing to help Penny get players to Memphis. Penny could not maintain his AAU team because then the NCAA could take issue with his ties to an AAU club and allowing him to funnel players to play for him at Memphis. That is why I'm not sold on giving the job to Penny, who has no college coaching experience. All of us have our own opinion. I would feel better myself if Penny stayed at the AAU level with his team and the next Memphis hire would be someone who Penny might have a good relationship with that is a good recruiter and would encourage Penny to start sending some of his players to come to Memphis. Someone like a Will Wade at LSU, who I would have liked to have beforehand, but probably would not take this job now. I've heard other names thrown out before like Eric Musselman at Nevada. Earl Grant at College of Charleston is a young head coach that spent 6 years prior as an assistant to Greg Marshall at Wichita State. His club is doing well this year. Or, someone along those lines who could recruit. I wouldn't even mind some up and coming assistant for a proven head coach that was a top notch recruiter. Say like an David Patrick at TCU, Jon Scheyer at Duke, or Ron Sanchez at Virginia. I think any of those would have enough background experience at the college level, and are very good at recruiting, that could bring us back to where Tiger Basketball can again become relevant.

Penny doesn't even coach team penny.

Thanks for playing.

Drive around.

(02-07-2018 11:58 AM)jamammy Wrote:  

(02-07-2018 11:34 AM)RandyW_Class83 Wrote:  The problem is that if Penny was offered and became the HC at Memphis, he would have to disband Team Penny. Then his current players would have to find another AAU club. Maybe a rival club that would not be so willing to help Penny get players to Memphis. Penny could not maintain his AAU team because then the NCAA could take issue with his ties to an AAU club and allowing him to funnel players to play for him at Memphis. That is why I'm not sold on giving the job to Penny, who has no college coaching experience. All of us have our own opinion. I would feel better myself if Penny stayed at the AAU level with his team and the next Memphis hire would be someone who Penny might have a good relationship with that is a good recruiter and would encourage Penny to start sending some of his players to come to Memphis. Someone like a Will Wade at LSU, who I would have liked to have beforehand, but probably would not take this job now. I've heard other names thrown out before like Eric Musselman at Nevada. Earl Grant at College of Charleston is a young head coach that spent 6 years prior as an assistant to Greg Marshall at Wichita State. His club is doing well this year. Or, someone along those lines who could recruit. I wouldn't even mind some up and coming assistant for a proven head coach that was a top notch recruiter. Say like an David Patrick at TCU, Jon Scheyer at Duke, or Ron Sanchez at Virginia. I think any of those would have enough background experience at the college level, and are very good at recruiting, that could bring us back to where Tiger Basketball can again become relevant.

Penny doesn't even coach team penny.

Thanks for playing.

Drive around.

It's his organization. Your argument didn't work for the TSSAA when they tried to pull the "he doesn't really coach the team" argument. Penny runs Team Penny, period. He finances it. Not sure why that is so hard to understand?

(02-07-2018 01:20 PM)RandyW_Class83 Wrote:  

(02-07-2018 11:58 AM)jamammy Wrote:  

(02-07-2018 11:34 AM)RandyW_Class83 Wrote:  The problem is that if Penny was offered and became the HC at Memphis, he would have to disband Team Penny. Then his current players would have to find another AAU club. Maybe a rival club that would not be so willing to help Penny get players to Memphis. Penny could not maintain his AAU team because then the NCAA could take issue with his ties to an AAU club and allowing him to funnel players to play for him at Memphis. That is why I'm not sold on giving the job to Penny, who has no college coaching experience. All of us have our own opinion. I would feel better myself if Penny stayed at the AAU level with his team and the next Memphis hire would be someone who Penny might have a good relationship with that is a good recruiter and would encourage Penny to start sending some of his players to come to Memphis. Someone like a Will Wade at LSU, who I would have liked to have beforehand, but probably would not take this job now. I've heard other names thrown out before like Eric Musselman at Nevada. Earl Grant at College of Charleston is a young head coach that spent 6 years prior as an assistant to Greg Marshall at Wichita State. His club is doing well this year. Or, someone along those lines who could recruit. I wouldn't even mind some up and coming assistant for a proven head coach that was a top notch recruiter. Say like an David Patrick at TCU, Jon Scheyer at Duke, or Ron Sanchez at Virginia. I think any of those would have enough background experience at the college level, and are very good at recruiting, that could bring us back to where Tiger Basketball can again become relevant.

Penny doesn't even coach team penny.

Thanks for playing.

Drive around.

It's his organization. Your argument didn't work for the TSSAA when they tried to pull the "he doesn't really coach the team" argument. Penny runs Team Penny, period. He finances it. Not sure why that is so hard to understand?

I don't know.

Maybe because the NCAA doesn't have some smart mouthed dick head trying to keep the player they paid to go to their school actually go to their school.

Either way, Penny could drop all legal ties to team Penny in two seconds and still be Penny, a hero in the local and national basketball communities.

Not sure why THAT is hard to understand.

Try comprehension instead of hotshotting.

(02-07-2018 07:31 AM)RandyW_Class83 Wrote:  

(02-06-2018 02:31 PM)BandwagonJumper Wrote:  

(02-06-2018 01:30 PM)BandwagonJumper Wrote:  

(02-05-2018 10:44 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  Then we still have the TSSAA lawsuit in play and how it will playout.

Good catch. The TSSAA would definitely not allow any of Penny's players to follow him to Memphis.

Word on the street is TSSAA looking at suspending Penny from coaching anywhere in TN for 1-3 years, so Memphis is out.

How does the TSSAA have any say at the college level? The NCAA governs college basketball. TSSAA governs HS.

I was just about to ask the same question, and follow-up on the post about where the players play in college. The TSSAA can't possibly wield a wand that large.

(02-05-2018 07:47 PM)MemphisTigerPawr Wrote:  Get out from under the Partner contract and jump back into the fire with Tubbys. Sad really.

yep

(02-05-2018 10:00 PM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(02-05-2018 07:51 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  I am not sure Penny wants the job and if he wants the job I am not sure he is the best option.

To answer your first part, he wants the job.

Yep! I think he's ready for a shot to coach college ball! At least by reading this article!
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&...m3TPK3HcN5

(02-22-2018 09:01 AM)mboro Wrote:  

(02-05-2018 10:00 PM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(02-05-2018 07:51 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  I am not sure Penny wants the job and if he wants the job I am not sure he is the best option.

To answer your first part, he wants the job.

Yep! I think he's ready for a shot to coach college ball! At least by reading this article!
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&...m3TPK3HcN5

He is not beating around the bush anymore...I will say that.

He is right about being able to motivate and teach your kids to play together is the biggest piece along with getting talent, but I do think he is oversimplifying the game...

There is a scenario in which Marshall gets the brink's truck to Louisville and that could release ALo...If Penny is in place at Memphis by Final Four weekend. Alo would be back on market; there is talk that Wiseman could re-class to 2018 he's that smart.

DJ would still be 2019 done deal.

Lawsons "maybe" I don't see the younger two at Memphis no matter what.

We ain't hiring Penny...the Lawson's will not be back at Memphis...ALo will play for Wichita State....it's all good.....the Tigers need a 3 point shooter, another athletic freshman for next year, and some more quality wins...Tiger hoops will never die.

(02-23-2018 12:17 AM)ItsDude Wrote:  We ain't hiring Penny...the Lawson's will not be back at Memphis...ALo will play for Wichita State....it's all good.....the Tigers need a 3 point shooter, another athletic freshman for next year, and some more quality wins...Tiger hoops will never die.

100% agree.

(02-23-2018 07:59 AM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(02-23-2018 12:17 AM)ItsDude Wrote:  We ain't hiring Penny...the Lawson's will not be back at Memphis...ALo will play for Wichita State....it's all good.....the Tigers need a 3 point shooter, another athletic freshman for next year, and some more quality wins...Tiger hoops will never die.

100% agree.

At some point Penny will be the coach at the University of Memphis.

(02-24-2018 10:59 AM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(02-23-2018 07:59 AM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(02-23-2018 12:17 AM)ItsDude Wrote:  We ain't hiring Penny...the Lawson's will not be back at Memphis...ALo will play for Wichita State....it's all good.....the Tigers need a 3 point shooter, another athletic freshman for next year, and some more quality wins...Tiger hoops will never die.

100% agree.

At some point Penny will be the coach at the University of Memphis.

Absolutely!!!!

(02-24-2018 11:10 PM)uskjtc02 Wrote:  

(02-24-2018 10:59 AM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(02-23-2018 07:59 AM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(02-23-2018 12:17 AM)ItsDude Wrote:  We ain't hiring Penny...the Lawson's will not be back at Memphis...ALo will play for Wichita State....it's all good.....the Tigers need a 3 point shooter, another athletic freshman for next year, and some more quality wins...Tiger hoops will never die.

100% agree.

At some point Penny will be the coach at the University of Memphis.

Absolutely!!!!

Betr NOW than L8r....Tubby's stock is higher than it has EVER been ....BLSH

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