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RE: Game Week: @Kent and @BG
(02-10-2018 03:08 PM)emu steve Wrote: (02-10-2018 02:35 PM)Luckeyone Wrote: (02-07-2018 11:38 AM)EagleSam Wrote: STAT UPDATE:
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Through 11 conference games, we are now first in the MAC in scoring defense, opposing FG%, opposing 3pt%, blocks (averaging 2 more per game than the 2nd place team), and steals. Not bad for a coach that can't teach defense, right Luckey?
...Unfortunately, we are dead last in scoring offense and free throw percentage, as well as 11th in turnovers (only 6 less than the 12th spot, Ball State). These last two games have shown this disparity as well. We look stellar on defense, but our lack of offense keeps the opponent in the game. I saw some nice offensive changes yesterday, notably Groce attacking the basket with less reckless abandon, and Thompson looking more confident as the roll man on PnR's. If we made even our season average in three pointers, we would have coasted. But it's always something that holds our offense back, and it seems to be a different "something" every game.
I think we are past the point of hoping that Murphy miraculously improves our offensive system. Our season now hinges on our defense remaining suffocating, as well as scoring enough in transition to not make it a free throw contest at the end of games.
Let's hope beating a good Kent State team on the road is the confidence builder this team needs to get some revenge at BG.
Sam, you and I can agree to disagree about our defense. I agree with a lot of your posts, player analysis and game analysis too but if you're telling me EMUs defense is best in the conference, I would whole heartedly disagree with you. Murphy does not run Syracuse's 2-3 zone but rather more similar to a 4-1. He absolutely wants to stop the opponents 3 pt field goals. Impatient teams or one dimensional offenses struggle scoring with the zone. However patient teams that work the ball to the paint and then assist to a base line cutter usually gets a layup or a kick out to a wide open shooter in the corner. Then there's the biggest flaw of the zone and that's giving opponents too many shot attempts. I can't recall the game but we gave up 11 offensive rebounds in the first half alone. EMU ranks last in rebounding and last at giving opponents offensive rebounds. DEFENSIVE REB PCT. G Team D-Reb Opp. O-REb D-Reb Pct.
1. Miami 12 307 99 .756
2. Bowling Green 11 289 97 .749
3. Buffalo 11 313 110 .740
4. Ball State 12 343 128 .728
5. Western Michigan 11 257 96 .728
6. Toledo 12 350 131 .728
7. Kent State 12 296 112 .725
8. Northern Illinois 11 258 98 .725
9. Akron 11 257 99 .722
10. Central Michigan 11 269 110 .710
11. Ohio 11 280 117 .705
12. Eastern Michigan 11 269 134 .667
Although the zone allows players to gamble for a steal or defend the three point shot, it can rip your heart out and doesn't provide the overall benefit when opponents get too many shot attempts.
Also, although our scoring defense might be number one, I believe it's somewhat misleading because Murphy slows the game down because his Offense is so bad. During Ron English's last season as Football coach, his defense was last in giving up rushing yards and 1st in passing defense. Do you really believe it was 1st in passing defense or that since the other teams could run at will they didn't need to pass? I'm saying You have to look deeper in the stats because they may not tell the whole story.
EMU just had an opportunity playing a soft part of their conference schedule. Let's see how we do with Toledo coming up twice, NIU and WMU. Then let's look at the season stats.
Sam, how can EMU be last in rebounding when we have the second tallest team in the country? Answer: Zone leaves you out of position. During Murphy's tenure, he's typically had the most athletic team. There's no one in the conference more athletic than Tim Bond. There's no one better at the 4 & 5 spots than Minnie and James. I wonder what our record would be if we played some man to man? I would bet we may lead the league in rebounding, opponent 3 pt FG %, scoring defense, and add a few more wins.
Unquestionably we all agree with you that Murphy can't coach offense and the anemic FT % is on the players.
I'm still predicting we win 8-10 regular season conference games.
#FakeAnalysis
If you did your homeworked thoroughly and honestly I don't think you would have come up with those conclusions.
I can rebut them and shred your arguments:
This is your statement:
"Also, although our scoring defense might be number one, I believe it's somewhat misleading because Murphy slows the game down because his Offense is so bad."
I assume there are say several conference statistics which are relevant.
First, everyone agrees we lead the conference is fewest points scored against...
Second, if it because the opponents are taking a very low number of shots OR is it because they are making a very low percentage (2-pointers and 3-pointers).
https://static.getsomemaction.com/custom...nfonly.htm
Taking the 3-ball: Our opponents have attempted 255 treys. That is around the average. BTW, four teams have played 12 games; us 11. So opponents are shooting the 3-ball against us pretty much like the league as a whole. There is no story there.
We are giving up the SECOND lowest PERCENTAGE of treys. That argues AGAINST the notion that the zone is a sieve when it comes to the 3-ball.
As far as FG percentage (defense) total: Opponents are shooting .396 the LOWEST in the conference.
BTW, looking at FG PERCENTAGES instead of total points scored, etc. that factors out as strategy of 'taking the air out of the ball' trying to keep the score down.
"I'm saying You have to look deeper in the stats because they may not tell the whole story." Luckey, you shot yourself in the foot with that statement. Self-inflicted wound.
And we lead the MAC in blocked shots and steals, two nice defensive statistics.
And for those who don't want to get into all of the percentages of shots made, shots attempted, etc. etc.
How about this 'stat': Might we lead the MAC in forcing shot clock violations??? How often have we seen opponents thoroughly befuddled on offense and get hit with a shot clock violation?
Steve,
As you've mentioned, you've never played the game in an organized manner, and your continuous support of Murphy's exclusive zone underscores your lack of knowledge and understanding of the game. I don't think you can objectively and adequately digest, all of the ingredients that form a good defensive team and disseminate a comprehensive analysis. The bottom line is, EMU is last at rebounding and we give our opponents way too many second, and third chances at scoring the ball because that is the weakness of the zone. I can guarantee when EMU used to win the MAC, we were not last in giving opponents offensive rebounds.
The reality is, Murphy recruits such stellar athletes, we will have some success no matter what defense he uses because typically he has more talent. If the zone defense was the best strategy to execute, then Calipari, Kryzewski (sp?), Izzo, etc would run it exclusively but they do not because you leave your team susceptible to giving up too many rebounds.
With a 20 pt lead at halftime today, all we had to do was play decent defense, rebound the ball and score occasionally. BG made some adjustments because they already knew EMU wouldn't, and they killed us in the second half with open 3 pt shots and multiple shot attempts by obtaining offensive rebounds. Murphy will always underachieve no matter how well he does on offense if his team is last, I'll say it again L.A.S.T in rebounding:
DEFENSIVE REB PCT. G Team D-Reb Opp. O-REb D-Reb Pct.
1. Miami 12 307 99 .756
2. Bowling Green 11 289 97 .749
3. Buffalo 11 313 110 .740
4. Ball State 12 343 128 .728
5. Western Michigan 11 257 96 .728
6. Toledo 12 350 131 .728
7. Kent State 12 296 112 .725
8. Northern Illinois 11 258 98 .725
9. Akron 11 257 99 .722
10. Central Michigan 11 269 110 .710
11. Ohio 11 280 117 .705
12. Eastern Michigan 11 269 134 .667
Enough said, Murphy's days at EMU are numbered.....
(This post was last modified: 02-10-2018 08:17 PM by Luckeyone.)
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