Katie Dewey throws 50’.05” to break the UT indoor record and move into fifth on the MAC indoor list. The throw qualifies her for MAC Championships. Several other Rockets hit qualifiers as well. I met our new High Jumper from Brazil today. Very nice young lady and her PR would likely win the MAC. We lack depth but should score in several events, especially distance. Here are the current Indoor Performance bests.

https://www.tfrrs.org/lists/2056/MAC_Ind...ist/2018/i

(02-03-2018 10:21 PM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  Katie Dewey throws 50’.05” to break the UT indoor record and move into fifth on the MAC indoor list. The throw qualifies her for MAC Championships. Several other Rockets hit qualifiers as well. I met our new High Jumper from Brazil today. Very nice young lady and her PR would likely win the MAC. We lack depth but should score in several events, especially distance. Here are the current Indoor Performance bests.

https://www.tfrrs.org/lists/2056/MAC_Ind...ist/2018/i

That's great!!!

Pretty depressing looking at the Toledo stats on the site for MAC track and field compared to the rest of the league. Why is it that a few schools have multiple athletes with better times or distances before you see the first UT female show up with their personal best this year. We don't even have a time for the 4x400 relay. 11 women's teams listed - but not one for Toledo. Are we so pathetic that we can't even field enough athletes to have 4 members on the relay team? Not having a men's team has to hurt recruiting for women's team. Shows no commitment to the sport.

(02-03-2018 11:25 PM)MotoRocket Wrote:  Pretty depressing looking at the Toledo stats on the site for MAC track and field compared to the rest of the league. Why is it that a few schools have multiple athletes with better times or distances before you see the first UT female show up with their personal best this year. We don't even have a time for the 4x400 relay. 11 women's teams listed - but not one for Toledo. Are we so pathetic that we can't even field enough athletes to have 4 members on the relay team? Not having a men's team has to hurt recruiting for women's team. Shows no commitment to the sport.

No indoor track. That simple.

(02-03-2018 11:38 PM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  

(02-03-2018 11:25 PM)MotoRocket Wrote:  Pretty depressing looking at the Toledo stats on the site for MAC track and field compared to the rest of the league. Why is it that a few schools have multiple athletes with better times or distances before you see the first UT female show up with their personal best this year. We don't even have a time for the 4x400 relay. 11 women's teams listed - but not one for Toledo. Are we so pathetic that we can't even field enough athletes to have 4 members on the relay team? Not having a men's team has to hurt recruiting for women's team. Shows no commitment to the sport.

No indoor track. That simple.

I guess that would be evidence of the no commitment to the sport. They did not put an indoor track in the Fetterman? I haven't been inside it - so I don't know. BG's indoor facility for football has an indoor track. Not a very good facility overall - but at least they had the foresight to add the indoor track. Seems like women's track at UT is around just for the Title IX "coverage" it provides. It's a shame. If you are going to have a varsity sport and not commit to it, then why have it at all?

I just looked for comparison purposes and see that EMU has 8 men's varsity sports compared to 6 at Toledo. They have wrestling and men's track & field in addition to the same 6 that Toledo has. They have 11 varsity women's teams compared to 9 at Toledo (same 9 as Toledo plus Rowing and Gymnastics).

From all reports - it was indicated that EMU is losing tons of money on their athletic programs and was considering dropping football. I don't know how they can afford to have 19 varsity sports - 4 more than Toledo and likely draw a lot less in sports revenues.

BGSU has 7 men's varsity (Ice Hockey) and 10 women's varsity teams (Gymnastics) - compared to the 6 and 9 at Toledo.

Is Toledo just being more fiscally responsible? How do those sports get paid for?

This may have been covered in the past - but you almost have to wonder why we even bother with some of the sports we have at UT. We suck at some of them - and we still have fewer varisty sports than schools that don't have nearly the revenues that are available at UT.


This should be on a separate thread, but it is likely still beating a dead horse.

(02-05-2018 11:53 AM)MotoRocket Wrote:  

(02-03-2018 11:38 PM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  

(02-03-2018 11:25 PM)MotoRocket Wrote:  Pretty depressing looking at the Toledo stats on the site for MAC track and field compared to the rest of the league. Why is it that a few schools have multiple athletes with better times or distances before you see the first UT female show up with their personal best this year. We don't even have a time for the 4x400 relay. 11 women's teams listed - but not one for Toledo. Are we so pathetic that we can't even field enough athletes to have 4 members on the relay team? Not having a men's team has to hurt recruiting for women's team. Shows no commitment to the sport.

No indoor track. That simple.

I guess that would be evidence of the no commitment to the sport. They did not put an indoor track in the Fetterman? I haven't been inside it - so I don't know. BG's indoor facility for football has an indoor track. Not a very good facility overall - but at least they had the foresight to add the indoor track. Seems like women's track at UT is around just for the Title IX "coverage" it provides. It's a shame. If you are going to have a varsity sport and not commit to it, then why have it at all?

I just looked for comparison purposes and see that EMU has 8 men's varsity sports compared to 6 at Toledo. They have wrestling and men's track & field in addition to the same 6 that Toledo has. They have 11 varsity women's teams compared to 9 at Toledo (same 9 as Toledo plus Rowing and Gymnastics).

From all reports - it was indicated that EMU is losing tons of money on their athletic programs and was considering dropping football. I don't know how they can afford to have 19 varsity sports - 4 more than Toledo and likely draw a lot less in sports revenues.

BGSU has 7 men's varsity (Ice Hockey) and 10 women's varsity teams (Gymnastics) - compared to the 6 and 9 at Toledo.

Is Toledo just being more fiscally responsible? How do those sports get paid for?

This may have been covered in the past - but you almost have to wonder why we even bother with some of the sports we have at UT. We suck at some of them - and we still have fewer varisty sports than schools that don't have nearly the revenues that are available at UT.


This should be on a separate thread, but it is likely still beating a dead horse.

I think a certain number of sports are required to remain in the MAC and I believe UT is at the minimum. Men’s x-country, for example, is a joke. What decent runner goes to a school with no men’s track? It is in place strictly to give us that sixth men’s sport. We will never be competitive. The women’s sports need to balance out football because of the ridiculous number of schollies that football uses. Women were getting schollies for rowing at some schools when they had never rowed before because schools needed to meet Title 9 requirements. I’d love to see UT drop x-country and golf and add wrestling- cheap sport and could be a fourth revenue sport to help pay for itself. Unfortunately, it would drop us below the minimum, as I understand it. Has anyone on this board ever seen a golf match? No more dual or tri matches and very rarely hosting a tournament locally. What’s the point?

(02-05-2018 12:10 PM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  

(02-05-2018 11:53 AM)MotoRocket Wrote:  

(02-03-2018 11:38 PM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  

(02-03-2018 11:25 PM)MotoRocket Wrote:  Pretty depressing looking at the Toledo stats on the site for MAC track and field compared to the rest of the league. Why is it that a few schools have multiple athletes with better times or distances before you see the first UT female show up with their personal best this year. We don't even have a time for the 4x400 relay. 11 women's teams listed - but not one for Toledo. Are we so pathetic that we can't even field enough athletes to have 4 members on the relay team? Not having a men's team has to hurt recruiting for women's team. Shows no commitment to the sport.

No indoor track. That simple.

I guess that would be evidence of the no commitment to the sport. They did not put an indoor track in the Fetterman? I haven't been inside it - so I don't know. BG's indoor facility for football has an indoor track. Not a very good facility overall - but at least they had the foresight to add the indoor track. Seems like women's track at UT is around just for the Title IX "coverage" it provides. It's a shame. If you are going to have a varsity sport and not commit to it, then why have it at all?

I just looked for comparison purposes and see that EMU has 8 men's varsity sports compared to 6 at Toledo. They have wrestling and men's track & field in addition to the same 6 that Toledo has. They have 11 varsity women's teams compared to 9 at Toledo (same 9 as Toledo plus Rowing and Gymnastics).

From all reports - it was indicated that EMU is losing tons of money on their athletic programs and was considering dropping football. I don't know how they can afford to have 19 varsity sports - 4 more than Toledo and likely draw a lot less in sports revenues.

BGSU has 7 men's varsity (Ice Hockey) and 10 women's varsity teams (Gymnastics) - compared to the 6 and 9 at Toledo.

Is Toledo just being more fiscally responsible? How do those sports get paid for?

This may have been covered in the past - but you almost have to wonder why we even bother with some of the sports we have at UT. We suck at some of them - and we still have fewer varisty sports than schools that don't have nearly the revenues that are available at UT.


This should be on a separate thread, but it is likely still beating a dead horse.

I think a certain number of sports are required to remain in the MAC and I believe UT is at the minimum. Men’s x-country, for example, is a joke. What decent runner goes to a school with no men’s track? It is in place strictly to give us that sixth men’s sport. We will never be competitive. The women’s sports need to balance out football because of the ridiculous number of schollies that football uses. Women were getting schollies for rowing at some schools when they had never rowed before because schools needed to meet Title 9 requirements. I’d love to see UT drop x-country and golf and add wrestling- cheap sport and could be a fourth revenue sport to help pay for itself. Unfortunately, it would drop us below the minimum, as I understand it. Has anyone on this board ever seen a golf match? No more dual or tri matches and very rarely hosting a tournament locally. What’s the point?

The 19th Hole.

Very short sighted not putting a track in the indoor facility, but the site is small. Not talking much additional space.

How about a retractable roof for the current track / kickball field?

(02-05-2018 01:06 PM)indianasniff Wrote:  Very short sighted not putting a track in the indoor facility, but the site is small. Not talking much additional space.

How about a retractable roof for the current track / kickball field?

Money was the issue. When I donated, UT promised an indoor track. When it didn’t happen they told me it was a $ issue, but there WAS a sprint lane. Woo hoo!

Time to invest in an eSport arena. Maybe one of the tech companies will support it.
Btw, isn't it time Rocket Mortgage finances Glass Bowl expansion.

(02-05-2018 01:18 PM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  

(02-05-2018 01:06 PM)indianasniff Wrote:  Very short sighted not putting a track in the indoor facility, but the site is small. Not talking much additional space.

How about a retractable roof for the current track / kickball field?

Money was the issue. When I donated, UT promised an indoor track. When it didn’t happen they told me it was a $ issue, but there WAS a sprint lane. Woo hoo!

There wasn't enough land for an indoor track in the building. However there are sprint lanes, high jump and pole vault pits along with long jump and triple jump areas. UT could use its meager scholarship dollars in those areas, along with weights, where having an indoor track wouldn't be such a negative.