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NM Bill Would Force High School Students To Apply, to get their Diploma
Quote:The second proposal, House Bill 23, would require students to apply to college, for an internship, to the military or for a job before graduating. They wouldn’t actually have to attend college or enter the military, just apply.

Ivey-Soto said it would force students to at least start the conversation about whether college – or another path after school – is right for them.

https://www.abqjournal.com/1127931/colle...house.html

Yesterday on local talk radio, everyone who called in was against it. They and I see this as away of telling you what to do. Really limits ones choices. I get that is says that you just must apply, but how long will it be until you must be accepted.
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Quote:The second proposal, House Bill 23, would require students to apply to college, for an internship, to the military or for a job before graduating. They wouldn’t actually have to attend college or enter the military, just apply.

Huh what?
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How does one apply to the military, exactly?

Also, I may set up a business that for just $50 in cash or money order will accept an internship application from any student in NM.
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(02-02-2018 05:04 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  How does one apply to the military, exactly?

You have to submit your resume, then enter all the same information onto the application website.
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(02-02-2018 04:44 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  
Quote:The second proposal, House Bill 23, would require students to apply to college, for an internship, to the military or for a job before graduating. They wouldn’t actually have to attend college or enter the military, just apply.

Ivey-Soto said it would force students to at least start the conversation about whether college – or another path after school – is right for them.

https://www.abqjournal.com/1127931/colle...house.html

Yesterday on local talk radio, everyone who called in was against it. They and I see this as away of telling you what to do. Really limits ones choices. I get that is says that you just must apply, but how long will it be until you must be accepted.

Government is not the solution. Politicians trying to justify their existence.
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maybe high schools should focus on not graduating dumb fricks
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I don't think that article said they had to do those things to receive their diploma.

Aren't most high school seniors doing one of those three things anyway - either applying for college, getting a job or going into the military? I don't like the idea of forcing the students to do that, especially because most college applications I think cost money (about $30 to $40 on average).

Just let them be and it will happen. The other legislation they're suggesting is fine.
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(02-02-2018 04:48 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  
Quote:The second proposal, House Bill 23, would require students to apply to college, for an internship, to the military or for a job before graduating. They wouldn’t actually have to attend college or enter the military, just apply.

Huh what?

That was my thought as well. Seems like why even waste the time.
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(02-02-2018 05:20 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  I don't think that article said they had to do those things to receive their diploma.

Aren't most high school seniors doing one of those three things anyway - either applying for college, getting a job or going into the military? I don't like the idea of forcing the students to do that, especially because most college applications I think cost money (about $30 to $40 on average).

Just let them be and it will happen. The other legislation they're suggesting is fine.
Its would be a graduation requirement.


Quote:SANTA FE, N.M. (AP) — New Mexico's high school juniors would have to apply to at least one college or commit to other post-high school plans as part of a proposed graduation requirement that would be the first statewide push of its kind in the U.S.

The proposal is scheduled for its first legislative hearing on Thursday. If it eventually becomes law, New Mexico would be the first state to require post-high school plans of students, said Jennifer Zinth, who is the director of high school and STEM research at the Education Commission of the States, a Denver-based group that tracks education policy.

The bill sponsored by Rep. Nate Gentry, a Republican, and Sen. Daniel Ivey-Soto, a Democrat, would make it mandatory for public school juniors to apply to at least one two- or four-year college. Exceptions would be made for students who can prove they have committed to military service, a vocational program, or work upon graduation in an apprenticeship or internship. Parents and school guidance counselors would have to approve of the students' plans.


The measure was drafted with the aim of reversing declines in college enrollment across the state, which fell nearly 14 percent from 155,065 enrolled students in 2010 to 133,830 in 2016.

Ivey-Soto, an attorney and former educator, said it also could encourage prospective first-generation college students to seriously consider getting into a higher education institution.


"There's a reason we call graduation commencement because it's the beginning of their future," Ivey-Soto said. "Let's take that seriously."


The New Mexico bill is modeled after a similar requirement that Gentry said was put in place for high school students in San Marcos, Texas, more than a decade ago. And last year in Chicago, Mayor Rahm Emanuel made post-high school plans a graduation requirement — saying students had to either have plans to enter the military, take part in a "gap year" program, get a job offer or apprenticeship, or have an acceptance letter from a college.

The New Mexico proposal has received a mixed response from educators, with some questioning whether the bill that asks for no extra funding will further strain schools without enough counselors to give students the attention they need to develop post-graduation plans.

"We just need to make sure that the schools are funded well enough that there is a counselor or a person who can help each student," said Betty Patterson, president of the National Education Association-New Mexico union representing more than 8,500 school employees.

The bill seeks to boost the state's college enrollment rate in the hopes the state would have a better educated workforce. That could attract more companies to New Mexico, where the unemployment rate is 6.5 percent, the second highest in the U.S. and more than two percentage points higher than the national rate.

While students would not be required to attend college, Gentry thinks requiring them to fill out applications will make them more likely to do so. Applying to the flagship University of New Mexico costs $25.


Many of the state's community colleges don't charge application fees and applying online can take as little as 20 minutes.
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/...chool-plan
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The original link you post (from the Albuquerque paper) doesn't have the words graduation requirement. That's a big inclusion in the AP story.
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(02-02-2018 06:36 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  The original link you post (from the Albuquerque paper) doesn't have the words graduation requirement. That's a big inclusion in the AP story.

Someone edited or left that out of the online version. In the physical paper it says its a requirement. That's the Urinal (Journal) for you.
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