Hello There, Guest! (LoginRegister)

Post Reply 
Realistic Mid-Major At-Large Bid Candidates
Author Message
Wedge Offline
Moderator
*

Posts: 12,934
Joined: May 2010
Reputation: 396
I Root For: California
Location: Bear Territory
Post: #21
RE: Realistic Mid-Major At-Large Bid Candidates
(02-07-2018 04:09 PM)stever20 Wrote:  
(02-07-2018 04:07 PM)Wedge Wrote:  
(02-07-2018 04:02 PM)stever20 Wrote:  how about by the transitive property- Chaminade is leading the Big East...
Chaminade beat Cal
Cal beat Stanford
Stanford beat Arizona St
Arizona St beat Xavier
Xavier beat Butler
Butler beat Villanova

That's how Chaminade is leading the AAC -- Chaminade beat Cal who beat Stanford who beat ASU who beat Xavier who beat Cincinnati. One less transitive step, even.

Nova #1 team in country.... makes it even funnier.

If we are living our lives by the transitive property, Chaminade will be the #1 seed in March Madness. They might even raise a national championship banner and have a parade. 07-coffee3
(This post was last modified: 02-07-2018 04:13 PM by Wedge.)
02-07-2018 04:13 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
_C2_ Offline
The King of Overanalysis
*

Posts: 18,005
Joined: Feb 2008
Reputation: 356
I Root For: Houston
Location: Near Seawall Town
Post: #22
RE: Realistic Mid-Major At-Large Bid Candidates
(02-07-2018 04:07 PM)Wedge Wrote:  
(02-07-2018 04:02 PM)stever20 Wrote:  how about by the transitive property- Chaminade is leading the Big East...
Chaminade beat Cal
Cal beat Stanford
Stanford beat Arizona St
Arizona St beat Xavier
Xavier beat Butler
Butler beat Villanova

That's how Chaminade is leading the AAC -- Chaminade beat Cal who beat Stanford who beat ASU who beat Xavier who beat Cincinnati. One less transitive step, even.

I love that game. A decade ago, I came up with a formula of 1-26 NIT being the number one team. It took 15-20 teams to complete the train.
02-07-2018 04:21 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
stever20 Online
Legend
*

Posts: 28,957
Joined: Nov 2011
Reputation: 272
I Root For: College Sports
Location:
Post: #23
RE: Realistic Mid-Major At-Large Bid Candidates
found another #1 seed in March Madness... Concordia (Mn)
Virginia lost to West Virginia by 7
West Virginia lost to Iowa St by 16
Iowa St lost to Milwaukee by 18
Milwaukee lost to Concordia Mn by 14

so therefore, Concordia is better than Virginia by 55 points.
02-07-2018 04:24 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
stever20 Online
Legend
*

Posts: 28,957
Joined: Nov 2011
Reputation: 272
I Root For: College Sports
Location:
Post: #24
RE: Realistic Mid-Major At-Large Bid Candidates
got a pretty small train to connect KP #350 Mississippi Valley with #1 Villanova-
Ms Valley St beat Jackson St by 5
Jackson St beat Nebraska Omaha by 2
Nebraska Omaha beat Drake by 2
Drake beat Wake Forest by 3
Wake Forest beat Syracuse by 6
Syracuse beat Maryland by 2
Maryland beat Butler by 14
Butler beat Villanova by 8
therefore #350 Ms Valley St is 42 points better than #1 Nova
02-07-2018 04:29 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Wedge Offline
Moderator
*

Posts: 12,934
Joined: May 2010
Reputation: 396
I Root For: California
Location: Bear Territory
Post: #25
RE: Realistic Mid-Major At-Large Bid Candidates
Also, Idaho wins the Transitive Property National Championship in their final year in FBS:

Alabama lost to Auburn who lost to LSU who lost to Troy who lost to South Alabama who lost to Idaho.
02-07-2018 04:42 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
IWokeUpLikeThis Offline
1st String
*

Posts: 1,360
Joined: Jul 2014
Reputation: 43
I Root For: NIU, Chicago St
Location:
Post: #26
RE: Realistic Mid-Major At-Large Bid Candidates
(02-07-2018 04:24 PM)stever20 Wrote:  found another #1 seed in March Madness... Concordia (Mn)
Virginia lost to West Virginia by 7
West Virginia lost to Iowa St by 16
Iowa St lost to Milwaukee by 18
Milwaukee lost to Concordia Mn by 14

so therefore, Concordia is better than Virginia by 55 points.

Arkansas Tech 86
Concordia-St Paul 67

You know who’s partying in the streets of Russelville...
02-07-2018 06:28 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
The Cutter of Bish Offline
All American
*

Posts: 3,068
Joined: Mar 2013
Reputation: 78
I Root For: the little guy
Location:
Post: #27
RE: Realistic Mid-Major At-Large Bid Candidates
(02-07-2018 03:00 PM)stever20 Wrote:  Temple is still in it big time right now. Assuming they win these next 2 games(vs USF and ECU)- they're 15-10 with a really good SOS. 4-1 last 5 games and they're in- and would be favored in 2 of those last 5, and 2 of the other 3 they're basically 50/50 propositions. 19-11 and they're at a 28 RPI with a SOS of 14. Heck, 18-12 and they have a RPI of around 36. With wins over Clemson and Auburn included. Teams like that get in most every single time.

The quality wins speak for themselves with Temple. Their bad losses also speak for themselves, however.

If Temple is left out of this, and they don't pick up anymore really bad losses, there's going to be some committee members making exits out the back rather than wanting to take on the hard questions that come with such a snub.
02-07-2018 06:44 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Tom in Lazybrook Offline
Hall of Famer
*

Posts: 20,210
Joined: Jul 2011
Reputation: 426
I Root For: So Alabama, GWU
Location: Houston
Post: #28
RE: Realistic Mid-Major At-Large Bid Candidates
(02-07-2018 04:42 PM)Wedge Wrote:  Also, Idaho wins the Transitive Property National Championship in their final year in FBS:

Alabama lost to Auburn who lost to LSU who lost to Troy who lost to South Alabama who lost to Idaho.

LOL

And you can go further. Idaho lost to UNLV who lost to (FCS) Howard who lost to (FCS) Norfolk State who lost to (D2) Virginia State. From D2 to FBS champion in just 8 games. That's got to be a record.
(This post was last modified: 02-07-2018 06:59 PM by Tom in Lazybrook.)
02-07-2018 06:58 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Nittany_Bearcat Offline
2nd String
*

Posts: 279
Joined: Sep 2016
Reputation: 11
I Root For: PSU, Cincinnati
Location: Colorful Colorado
Post: #29
RE: Realistic Mid-Major At-Large Bid Candidates
(02-07-2018 06:58 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(02-07-2018 04:42 PM)Wedge Wrote:  Also, Idaho wins the Transitive Property National Championship in their final year in FBS:

Alabama lost to Auburn who lost to LSU who lost to Troy who lost to South Alabama who lost to Idaho.

LOL

And you can go further. Idaho lost to UNLV who lost to (FCS) Howard who lost to (FCS) Norfolk State who lost to (D2) Virginia State. From D2 to FBS champion in just 8 games. That's got to be a record.

I think you missed a game in there. Howard beat Norfolk State in 2017. So the chain is actually 10 games: Virginia State > Norfolk State > NC Central > Howard > UNLV > Idaho > South Alabama > Troy > LSU > Auburn > Alabama

Going back to 2016, there's actually a chain that was one game LESS to connect the FBS champion to D2.

Western Oregon > Sacramento State > Montana State > Montana > Northern Iowa > Indiana State > Illinois State > Northwestern > Pittsburgh > Clemson

And in 2014 (2015 had an undefeated FBS champion), there was a FBS Champion to D2 chain that had one less game than 2016. In this case, it's a link between the FBS Champion and the D2 Champion, which is kind of cool:

Colorado State-Pueblo > Sam Houston State > Villanova > Liberty > Appalachian State > Louisiana-Monroe > Wake Forest > Virginia Tech > Ohio State

Good web-site for finding these chains is below:

http://www.myteamisbetterthanyourteam.co...6&method=2
(This post was last modified: 02-07-2018 10:37 PM by Nittany_Bearcat.)
02-07-2018 10:32 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
jdgaucho Offline
All American
*

Posts: 2,565
Joined: Nov 2012
Reputation: 31
I Root For: UCSB
Location: Big West Land
Post: #30
RE: Realistic Mid-Major At-Large Bid Candidates
(02-07-2018 04:02 PM)stever20 Wrote:  how about by the transitive property- Chaminade is leading the Big East...
Chaminade beat Cal
Cal beat Stanford
Stanford beat Arizona St
Arizona St beat Xavier
Xavier beat Butler
Butler beat Villanova

UC Riverside beat Cal
Cal beat SDSU
SDSU beat Gonzaga
Gonzaga beat Texas
Texas beat Butler
Butler beat Villanova.

Highlander power at UCR.
02-07-2018 11:33 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Post Reply 




User(s) browsing this thread: 3 Guest(s)


Copyright © 2002-2018 Collegiate Sports Nation Bulletin Board System (CSNbbs), All Rights Reserved.
CSNbbs is an independent fan site and is in no way affiliated to the NCAA or any of the schools and conferences it represents.
This site monetizes links. FTC Disclosure.
Powered By MyBB, © 2002-2018 MyBB Group.