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RE: Realistic Mid-Major At-Large Bid Candidates
I don't look at the AAC as a mid-major in this. It's Houston, Temple, and SMU and their bid-worthiness that puts the mid-major at-large pool at risk. Barring someone like UCF making a run and stealing the AQ, 2-3 AAC schools are locks, but, five can't be ruled out yet. Palm's got three of them in there, Lunardi's got four.

SEC, AAC, ACC, and the Big XII is where the mid-major pool is most at risk. Big Ten's watching Maryland tag out for Nebraska...seems like most of the conference isn't interested in playing in March this year. PAC's failing to thrill as usual.

I'm annoyed Kansas State is showing up in brackets...awful NCSOS with a bad RPI is exactly what generates this controversy of major bias.
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RE: Realistic Mid-Major At-Large Bid Candidates
Assuming Cincy, Houston and Wichita make the tournament this year, then the American has 7 schools that have made the tourney at least once in the last three years:

Cincy: 2016, 2017, 2018
Wichita: 2016, 2017, 2018
Houston: 2018
SMU: 2017
UConn: 2016
Temple: 2016
Tulsa: 2016

That's 11 bids in 3 years, or 3.7 per year.

Then there's Memphis and an emerging UCF, both of whom could earn NCAA bids soon. Memphis is a legit basketball school.

Clearly a "Power 7" league in basketball.

You look at the top of the Pac 12:

Arizona lost to SMU
USC lost to SMU
UCLA lost to Cincy
Oregon lost to UConn
Washington lost to Providence who lost to Houston
Stanford lost to Arizona, USC and UCLA who lost to SMU, SMU and Cincy
02-07-2018 02:46 PM
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RE: Realistic Mid-Major At-Large Bid Candidates
(02-07-2018 02:46 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  Assuming Cincy, Houston and Wichita make the tournament this year, then the American has 7 schools that have made the tourney at least once in the last three years:

Cincy: 2016, 2017, 2018
Wichita: 2016, 2017, 2018
Houston: 2018
SMU: 2017
UConn: 2016
Temple: 2016
Tulsa: 2016

That's 11 bids in 3 years, or 3.7 per year.

Then there's Memphis and an emerging UCF, both of whom could earn NCAA bids soon. Memphis is a legit basketball school.

Clearly a "Power 7" league in basketball.

You look at the top of the Pac 12:

Arizona lost to SMU
USC lost to SMU
UCLA lost to Cincy
Oregon lost to UConn
Washington lost to Providence who lost to Houston
Stanford lost to Arizona, USC and UCLA who lost to SMU, SMU and Cincy

When you have to resort to transitives, you're not a power league.
02-07-2018 02:51 PM
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RE: Realistic Mid-Major At-Large Bid Candidates
(02-07-2018 02:51 PM)loki_the_bubba Wrote:  
(02-07-2018 02:46 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  Assuming Cincy, Houston and Wichita make the tournament this year, then the American has 7 schools that have made the tourney at least once in the last three years:

Cincy: 2016, 2017, 2018
Wichita: 2016, 2017, 2018
Houston: 2018
SMU: 2017
UConn: 2016
Temple: 2016
Tulsa: 2016

That's 11 bids in 3 years, or 3.7 per year.

Then there's Memphis and an emerging UCF, both of whom could earn NCAA bids soon. Memphis is a legit basketball school.

Clearly a "Power 7" league in basketball.

You look at the top of the Pac 12:

Arizona lost to SMU
USC lost to SMU
UCLA lost to Cincy
Oregon lost to UConn
Washington lost to Providence who lost to Houston
Stanford lost to Arizona, USC and UCLA who lost to SMU, SMU and Cincy

When you have to resort to transitives, you're not a power league.

But it's so fun! Undefeated UCF beats Auburn. Auburn smokes Bama.

UCF National Champs!
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RE: Realistic Mid-Major At-Large Bid Candidates
Temple is still in it big time right now. Assuming they win these next 2 games(vs USF and ECU)- they're 15-10 with a really good SOS. 4-1 last 5 games and they're in- and would be favored in 2 of those last 5, and 2 of the other 3 they're basically 50/50 propositions. 19-11 and they're at a 28 RPI with a SOS of 14. Heck, 18-12 and they have a RPI of around 36. With wins over Clemson and Auburn included. Teams like that get in most every single time.
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(02-07-2018 03:00 PM)stever20 Wrote:  Temple is still in it big time right now. Assuming they win these next 2 games(vs USF and ECU)- they're 15-10 with a really good SOS. 4-1 last 5 games and they're in- and would be favored in 2 of those last 5, and 2 of the other 3 they're basically 50/50 propositions. 19-11 and they're at a 28 RPI with a SOS of 14. Heck, 18-12 and they have a RPI of around 36. With wins over Clemson and Auburn included. Teams like that get in most every single time.

They've done studies, you know? 60% of the time, it works every time.
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(02-07-2018 02:57 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  
(02-07-2018 02:51 PM)loki_the_bubba Wrote:  
(02-07-2018 02:46 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  Assuming Cincy, Houston and Wichita make the tournament this year, then the American has 7 schools that have made the tourney at least once in the last three years:

Cincy: 2016, 2017, 2018
Wichita: 2016, 2017, 2018
Houston: 2018
SMU: 2017
UConn: 2016
Temple: 2016
Tulsa: 2016

That's 11 bids in 3 years, or 3.7 per year.

Then there's Memphis and an emerging UCF, both of whom could earn NCAA bids soon. Memphis is a legit basketball school.

Clearly a "Power 7" league in basketball.

You look at the top of the Pac 12:

Arizona lost to SMU
USC lost to SMU
UCLA lost to Cincy
Oregon lost to UConn
Washington lost to Providence who lost to Houston
Stanford lost to Arizona, USC and UCLA who lost to SMU, SMU and Cincy

When you have to resort to transitives, you're not a power league.

But it's so fun! Undefeated UCF beats Auburn. Auburn smokes Bama.

UCF National Champs!

By the transitive property, Chaminade is leading the AAC in basketball.
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how about by the transitive property- Chaminade is leading the Big East...
Chaminade beat Cal
Cal beat Stanford
Stanford beat Arizona St
Arizona St beat Xavier
Xavier beat Butler
Butler beat Villanova
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(02-07-2018 04:02 PM)stever20 Wrote:  how about by the transitive property- Chaminade is leading the Big East...
Chaminade beat Cal
Cal beat Stanford
Stanford beat Arizona St
Arizona St beat Xavier
Xavier beat Butler
Butler beat Villanova

That's how Chaminade is leading the AAC -- Chaminade beat Cal who beat Stanford who beat ASU who beat Xavier who beat Cincinnati. One less transitive step, even.
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(02-07-2018 04:07 PM)Wedge Wrote:  
(02-07-2018 04:02 PM)stever20 Wrote:  how about by the transitive property- Chaminade is leading the Big East...
Chaminade beat Cal
Cal beat Stanford
Stanford beat Arizona St
Arizona St beat Xavier
Xavier beat Butler
Butler beat Villanova

That's how Chaminade is leading the AAC -- Chaminade beat Cal who beat Stanford who beat ASU who beat Xavier who beat Cincinnati. One less transitive step, even.

Nova #1 team in country.... makes it even funnier.
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