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RE: If the P5 Conferences all go to 16 teams
(02-02-2018 10:42 AM)ken d Wrote:  Wouldn't it be simpler for the AAC to just add Kansas State, Iowa State, Baylor and one other school and remain the strongest G5 conference? Or, the ACC could stay at 14, leaving Cincy as the AAC's 16th team and ND as an Independent.

The premise of the thread is that the P5 conferences go to 16. Also, unless the Big 12 completely dissolves, the movement of schools will be from G5 to Big 12 and not the other way around.
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(02-02-2018 09:35 AM)10thMountain Wrote:  There won't be any coordinated effort to go to 16 together by promoting G5 teams

If the SEC, B1G and PAC expand they will do so by picking off the B12 and ACC and would not promote any G5 team directly.

The B12 and ACC would only do so after losing members as they have in the past.

This ignores the ACC exit fee and GOR until 2036.
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All G5 schools suck!
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RE: If the P5 Conferences all go to 16 teams
(02-02-2018 11:05 AM)TerryD Wrote:  
(02-02-2018 09:35 AM)10thMountain Wrote:  There won't be any coordinated effort to go to 16 together by promoting G5 teams

If the SEC, B1G and PAC expand they will do so by picking off the B12 and ACC and would not promote any G5 team directly.

The B12 and ACC would only do so after losing members as they have in the past.

This ignores the ACC exit fee and GOR until 2036.

Those can be litigated. What do you think the court settlement price for FSU to leave the ACC would be right now? $60 million?
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(02-02-2018 11:16 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(02-02-2018 11:05 AM)TerryD Wrote:  
(02-02-2018 09:35 AM)10thMountain Wrote:  There won't be any coordinated effort to go to 16 together by promoting G5 teams

If the SEC, B1G and PAC expand they will do so by picking off the B12 and ACC and would not promote any G5 team directly.

The B12 and ACC would only do so after losing members as they have in the past.

This ignores the ACC exit fee and GOR until 2036.

Those can be litigated. What do you think the court settlement price for FSU to leave the ACC would be right now? $60 million?

More likely negotiated than litigated.
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NIU is a sleeping giant and won't disappoint if invited.
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If we go to a P4 then Notre Dame stays semi-independent until the end of the contract (if they choose).
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RE: If the P5 Conferences all go to 16 teams
(02-02-2018 11:16 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(02-02-2018 11:05 AM)TerryD Wrote:  
(02-02-2018 09:35 AM)10thMountain Wrote:  There won't be any coordinated effort to go to 16 together by promoting G5 teams

If the SEC, B1G and PAC expand they will do so by picking off the B12 and ACC and would not promote any G5 team directly.

The B12 and ACC would only do so after losing members as they have in the past.

This ignores the ACC exit fee and GOR until 2036.

Those can be litigated. What do you think the court settlement price for FSU to leave the ACC would be right now? $60 million?


No idea. Eighteen years of TV rights under the GOR plus the exit fees? How many tens of millions is that?

I think anyone who believes that a GOR of that length will be challenged in court needs to buy swamp land on Mars.
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RE: If the P5 Conferences all go to 16 teams
(02-02-2018 10:57 AM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  
(02-02-2018 10:42 AM)ken d Wrote:  Wouldn't it be simpler for the AAC to just add Kansas State, Iowa State, Baylor and one other school and remain the strongest G5 conference? Or, the ACC could stay at 14, leaving Cincy as the AAC's 16th team and ND as an Independent.

The premise of the thread is that the P5 conferences go to 16. Also, unless the Big 12 completely dissolves, the movement of schools will be from G5 to Big 12 and not the other way around.

Except that in your example you count a 3 team Big 12, supplemented by G5 adds, as a 16 team P5. I don't see it that way.
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RE: If the P5 Conferences all go to 16 teams
P5 conferences getting together and deciding who among them moves and where, has never happened before and is very unlikely to happen in the foreseeable future.
Acquisitions are not always amiable, many involving some litigation. Conferences pursue self-interests, and agreements with other conferences are based on self-interests, and less about the welfare of the collective.. Membership in a conference is perhaps the most protective aspect when it come to decision-making.

There will be future changes, but it will based on timing, accessibility/availability, ambitions, agreement within, and attitudinal and financial conditions of the moment. Piecemeal processes shall continue. Adding just one school can be a profound decision. Losing one or more show vulnerabilities.
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