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RE: Proposal to let athletes transfer instantly after a coaching change picks up steam
(01-31-2018 02:36 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(01-31-2018 01:36 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  As much as I am opposed to instant eligibility in general (to prevent smaller schools from becoming defacto farm systems), these proposals make sense.


If coaches have the freedom to come and go without penalty, so athletes if the coach leaves.

And coaches NEVER should have been able to block transfers to certain schools.

I don't agree with never. I believe that a coach should be able to block a transfer to any scheduled opponents during the span of eligibility for competitive reasons. If a player wants to transfer from East Central State the ECS coach should be able to block them from going to Middle Northern Tech if Middle Northern Tech is on their schedule every year.

That would be the only blocking I would be in favor of.

Why should a coach be able to take a new job with a school that is a scheduled opponent of their current school, but a player can't do the same?
01-31-2018 04:09 PM
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(01-31-2018 01:29 PM)orangefan Wrote:  https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...-up-steam/

Interesting proposal coming out of the Big 12.

Athletes would be allowed to transfer schools without restriction if their coach were fired or left for another job.

They'd still have to sit out a season, right?

That's a BIG restriction. 07-coffee3
01-31-2018 04:13 PM
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RE: Proposal to let athletes transfer instantly after a coaching change picks up steam
I don't have a problem with it.

But, I wonder where and how they are going to draw the line--head coach, position coach?
01-31-2018 04:20 PM
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(01-31-2018 04:20 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  I don't have a problem with it.

But, I wonder where and how they are going to draw the line--head coach, position coach?

Agreed, there are a lot of detail-devils here, and from a compliance standpoint, keeping track of player transfers and the consequent changes in scholarships allowed, will be a tangled situation.

There will be loopholes that are unanticipated, schools will figure them out and try to game the system. Won't be surprised if it is a big can of worms.
01-31-2018 04:29 PM
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G5 would lose good players to P5 but it would leave a better HS recruiting pool for them plus they could in turn raid FCS. A G5 playoff would become unavoidable.
01-31-2018 06:30 PM
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RE: Proposal to let athletes transfer instantly after a coaching change picks up steam
(01-31-2018 02:36 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(01-31-2018 01:36 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  As much as I am opposed to instant eligibility in general (to prevent smaller schools from becoming defacto farm systems), these proposals make sense.


If coaches have the freedom to come and go without penalty, so athletes if the coach leaves.

And coaches NEVER should have been able to block transfers to certain schools.

I don't agree with never. I believe that a coach should be able to block a transfer to any scheduled opponents during the span of eligibility for competitive reasons. If a player wants to transfer from East Central State the ECS coach should be able to block them from going to Middle Northern Tech if Middle Northern Tech is on their schedule every year.

That would be the only blocking I would be in favor of.

Why? If Player A is buried on the bench of ECS, and can start at MNT, shouldn't the best interests of the Student-athlete come first?
01-31-2018 06:34 PM
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RE: Proposal to let athletes transfer instantly after a coaching change picks up steam
(01-31-2018 04:09 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(01-31-2018 02:36 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(01-31-2018 01:36 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  As much as I am opposed to instant eligibility in general (to prevent smaller schools from becoming defacto farm systems), these proposals make sense.


If coaches have the freedom to come and go without penalty, so athletes if the coach leaves.

And coaches NEVER should have been able to block transfers to certain schools.

I don't agree with never. I believe that a coach should be able to block a transfer to any scheduled opponents during the span of eligibility for competitive reasons. If a player wants to transfer from East Central State the ECS coach should be able to block them from going to Middle Northern Tech if Middle Northern Tech is on their schedule every year.

That would be the only blocking I would be in favor of.

Why should a coach be able to take a new job with a school that is a scheduled opponent of their current school, but a player can't do the same?

Dan Mullen and Florida play Mississippi State NEXT YEAR. To be fair with Kaplony, Florida needs to forfeit the game.
01-31-2018 06:36 PM
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RE: Proposal to let athletes transfer instantly after a coaching change picks up steam
(01-31-2018 01:36 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  As much as I am opposed to instant eligibility in general (to prevent smaller schools from becoming defacto farm systems), these proposals make sense.


If coaches have the freedom to come and go without penalty, so athletes if the coach leaves.

And coaches NEVER should have been able to block transfers to certain schools.

I agree.
01-31-2018 06:50 PM
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RE: Proposal to let athletes transfer instantly after a coaching change picks up steam
(01-31-2018 04:09 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(01-31-2018 02:36 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(01-31-2018 01:36 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  As much as I am opposed to instant eligibility in general (to prevent smaller schools from becoming defacto farm systems), these proposals make sense.


If coaches have the freedom to come and go without penalty, so athletes if the coach leaves.

And coaches NEVER should have been able to block transfers to certain schools.

I don't agree with never. I believe that a coach should be able to block a transfer to any scheduled opponents during the span of eligibility for competitive reasons. If a player wants to transfer from East Central State the ECS coach should be able to block them from going to Middle Northern Tech if Middle Northern Tech is on their schedule every year.

That would be the only blocking I would be in favor of.

Why should a coach be able to take a new job with a school that is a scheduled opponent of their current school, but a player can't do the same?

Typically a coach takes his strategy, etc. with him when he goes and it's replaced by the next coach. He doesn't change his coaching strategy when a player leaves.
01-31-2018 07:28 PM
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RE: Proposal to let athletes transfer instantly after a coaching change picks up steam
(01-31-2018 06:36 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  
(01-31-2018 04:09 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(01-31-2018 02:36 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(01-31-2018 01:36 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  As much as I am opposed to instant eligibility in general (to prevent smaller schools from becoming defacto farm systems), these proposals make sense.


If coaches have the freedom to come and go without penalty, so athletes if the coach leaves.

And coaches NEVER should have been able to block transfers to certain schools.

I don't agree with never. I believe that a coach should be able to block a transfer to any scheduled opponents during the span of eligibility for competitive reasons. If a player wants to transfer from East Central State the ECS coach should be able to block them from going to Middle Northern Tech if Middle Northern Tech is on their schedule every year.

That would be the only blocking I would be in favor of.

Why should a coach be able to take a new job with a school that is a scheduled opponent of their current school, but a player can't do the same?

Dan Mullen and Florida play Mississippi State NEXT YEAR. To be fair with Kaplony, Florida needs to forfeit the game.

You might have a point if Mississippi State was locked in to playing the exact same style of ball they played when Mullen was there, but with a new coaching staff comes a new style of play so you don't.

A player leaving a team to go to an opponent provides an unnatural insight into how a team is going to do things.
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