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UMBC New Arena, could be a good model for W&M
With graduation moving to Zable, there really is no need for such a big basketball arena. UMBC is opening a new arena today, seats 5,000 and cost 85 million. Only 3/4ths of an arena like Kaplan, but overall a nice facility.

https://fm.umbc.edu/projects/event-center/

https://i.redd.it/rp75mjcn68d01.jpg

Our athletic budget is 26 million, theirs is just 16, but they don't have football. They also often pull only 500 or so spectators to their basketball games, so I'm kinda surprised they shelled out the dough for a new arena.

Something similar to this, maybe with student seating to fill out the arena and luxury boxes between levels, could be nice for W&M.
01-30-2018 03:22 PM
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I like Towson's arena as a bit better model as it has seating on all sides, but given what we have in the Hall certainly would not turn down this either.
01-30-2018 05:00 PM
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Not sure what you are proposing; starting over or turning Kaplan into this?

Kaplan has good bones and can be converted to something much easier on the eyes, outside and in.

-Ditch the seats in the highest sections (banners to obscure/convert to offices/whatever)
-add luxury boxes/lounges similar to UofR in the corners
-fill in the loading dock with some sort of seating
-Get seats courtside around the whole arena (like almost all basketball arenas)
-Fix the lighting to focus illumination toward the court only (see above)
-Enclose the facade in glass similar to the upcoming renovation of PBK
01-30-2018 05:03 PM
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No overhead scoreboard for a new arena? Not good.

The America Least has some nice arenas.
01-30-2018 05:54 PM
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RE: UMBC New Arena, could be a good model for W&M
The announcement of Zable as the new graduation location also mentioned having Kaplan Arena as the official backup facility in case of heavy rain or thunder storms/warnings. So they still need Kaplan as a back up for 10,000 people.

That would possibly put a crimp in the renovations being discussed here.
01-31-2018 07:18 AM
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RE: UMBC New Arena, could be a good model for W&M
(01-31-2018 07:18 AM)BigTribe3 Wrote:  The announcement of Zable as the new graduation location also mentioned having Kaplan Arena as the official backup facility in case of heavy rain or thunder storms/warnings. So they still need Kaplan as a back up for 10,000 people.

That would possibly put a crimp in the renovations being discussed here.

Id be surprised they avoid shrinking the seating simply to have a rarely needed rain-date backup venue. I think that quoted number is largely given to help quantify the changes. What do other universities do? My guess is they send the families to their respective departmental ceremonies and livestream the speech.

Regardless, Im sure a creative architect could maintain much of the temporary seating #s, even with many of the changes.
01-31-2018 08:30 AM
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RE: UMBC New Arena, could be a good model for W&M
(01-31-2018 08:30 AM)nogretheogre Wrote:  
(01-31-2018 07:18 AM)BigTribe3 Wrote:  The announcement of Zable as the new graduation location also mentioned having Kaplan Arena as the official backup facility in case of heavy rain or thunder storms/warnings. So they still need Kaplan as a back up for 10,000 people.

That would possibly put a crimp in the renovations being discussed here.

Id be surprised they avoid shrinking the seating simply to have a rarely needed rain-date backup venue. I think that quoted number is largely given to help quantify the changes. What do other universities do? My guess is they send the families to their respective departmental ceremonies and livestream the speech.

Regardless, Im sure a creative architect could maintain much of the temporary seating #s, even with many of the changes.

Forgive me if I've missed some news, but is anyone other than a few posters on this board seriously discussing altering Kaplan in any way for any purpose?
01-31-2018 10:13 AM
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(01-30-2018 03:22 PM)TDenverFan Wrote:  They also often pull only 500 or so spectators to their basketball games, so I'm kinda surprised they shelled out the dough for a new arena.
They average 686, which is 325th out of 351. Last season they averaged 900.
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RE: UMBC New Arena, could be a good model for W&M
(01-31-2018 10:13 AM)WM Beancounter Wrote:  
(01-31-2018 08:30 AM)nogretheogre Wrote:  
(01-31-2018 07:18 AM)BigTribe3 Wrote:  The announcement of Zable as the new graduation location also mentioned having Kaplan Arena as the official backup facility in case of heavy rain or thunder storms/warnings. So they still need Kaplan as a back up for 10,000 people.

That would possibly put a crimp in the renovations being discussed here.

Id be surprised they avoid shrinking the seating simply to have a rarely needed rain-date backup venue. I think that quoted number is largely given to help quantify the changes. What do other universities do? My guess is they send the families to their respective departmental ceremonies and livestream the speech.

Regardless, Im sure a creative architect could maintain much of the temporary seating #s, even with many of the changes.

Forgive me if I've missed some news, but is anyone other than a few posters on this board seriously discussing altering Kaplan in any way for any purpose?

While I am far from an insider, I believe that there is a general discussion going on about how to improve the game-day experience at Kaplan. The discussion about altering Kaplan appears to be a derivative of that discussion.

As an example the score board is video capable, but as I understand it the roof/cabellling of Kaplan needs some modifications in order to support that. Another example might be to add an area for premium seating/amenities.

As one goes to other arenas that have been updated such as the Robbins Center, the trend is to reduce seating to add game-day enhancing areas. I don't know for sure, but it seems that these types of observations are driving the discussion.

I could be wrong, but from a very old understanding, not all of the original plan for Kaplan has ever been installed.
01-31-2018 10:57 AM
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RE: UMBC New Arena, could be a good model for W&M
I think the administration has a priority on a proposed multi-sport practice facility. The next discussion might be whether to renovate or re-build Kaplan.
01-31-2018 11:03 AM
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