(01-31-2018 09:06 AM)RedWolfington Wrote:  "If he had said anything that wasn't racist, he wouldn't be treated like a racist."

What an astute young man you are.

You might want to try reading a little more carefully. I'm fairly sure you could publicly mock down-syndrome kids and get less of hysterical and emotional reaction than you do with anything that deals with race as this does. Once the subject of mocking someone or bullying gets into the realm of race is when people seem to lose their minds.

And you're kidding yourself if you don't think what happened at Mizzou and the fallout from that ridiculous ****-show has a lot of colleges scared and on edge and having them handling these situations more heavy-handed than is reasonable so they can virtue signal to the world that "hey look at us! we value diversity and inclusion!"

(01-31-2018 10:38 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(01-31-2018 07:14 AM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  If you're weak-willed enough to be baited into a racial verbal jab you're not strong-willed enough to represent Appalachian State. I'm glad this turd isn't going to continue to represent the school that I attended and continue to support with my hard earned money. Coach Lake being suspended for 4 matches tells me all I need to know about this event.

Good riddance.

Unless you were there or at the meetings, you don't know what happened. I'm pretty certain at 18-19 we were all provoked into saying something we shouldn't have. He who is without sin cast the first stone.

Case in point...

Come on, AppMan, this isn't the time for careful and thoughtful action. Something racist was said! There needs to be blood! BLOOD!

(01-31-2018 10:41 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:  

(01-31-2018 09:06 AM)RedWolfington Wrote:  "If he had said anything that wasn't racist, he wouldn't be treated like a racist."

What an astute young man you are.

You might want to try reading a little more carefully. I'm fairly sure you could publicly mock down-syndrome kids and get less of hysterical and emotional reaction than you do with anything that deals with race as this does. Once the subject of mocking someone or bullying gets into the realm of race is when people seem to lose their minds.

And you're kidding yourself if you don't think what happened at Mizzou and the fallout from that ridiculous ****-show has a lot of college on edge and having them handling these situations more heavy-handed than is reasonable so they can virtue signal to the world that "hey look at us! we value diversity and inclusion!"

(01-31-2018 10:38 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(01-31-2018 07:14 AM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  If you're weak-willed enough to be baited into a racial verbal jab you're not strong-willed enough to represent Appalachian State. I'm glad this turd isn't going to continue to represent the school that I attended and continue to support with my hard earned money. Coach Lake being suspended for 4 matches tells me all I need to know about this event.

Good riddance.

Unless you were there or at the meetings, you don't know what happened. I'm pretty certain at 18-19 we were all provoked into saying something we shouldn't have. He who is without sin cast the first stone.

Case in point...

Come on, AppMan, this isn't the time for careful and thoughtful action. Something racist was said! There needs to be blood! BLOOD!

While I agree with a lot of what is being said here, a good rule of thumb is whatever you see on the internet is amplified 10x from what the actual reality is. Especially the frequency of which things happen. Everything is blown up and exaggerated.

(01-31-2018 10:38 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(01-31-2018 07:14 AM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  If you're weak-willed enough to be baited into a racial verbal jab you're not strong-willed enough to represent Appalachian State. I'm glad this turd isn't going to continue to represent the school that I attended and continue to support with my hard earned money. Coach Lake being suspended for 4 matches tells me all I need to know about this event.

Good riddance.

Unless you were there or at the meetings, you don't know what happened. I'm pretty certain at 18-19 we were all provoked into saying something we shouldn't have. He who is without sin cast the first stone.

Oh please. I know enough that Doug Gillin knows what he's doing. Suspending the coach for 4 matches says that something happened that shouldn't have. Being provoked into using derogatory racial language isn't something you do, especially while wearing your school colors. This isn't about casting the first stone. This is looking at the response by school officials and seeing they are pretty positive that the kid was a poor representative of the school.

(01-31-2018 12:33 AM)Fanof49ASU Wrote:  

(01-30-2018 11:22 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(01-30-2018 10:16 PM)Fanof49ASU Wrote:  

(01-30-2018 03:30 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  Glad he was kicked off the team and not forced to issue a public apology.

Making racially insensitive remarks is worse than child molestation, murder, and rape combined!

I’m late to this thread but you’re out of your mind.
It’s just freaking words.

Freaking snowflakes!

You should probably go back to watching AState track meets. You missed that sarcasm by a mile and a half.

Also...snowflakes has to be the stupidest word in the English Language now.

Still not convinced it was sarcasm.
Snowflake is very descriptive. Those who are ‘snowflakes’ know exactly who I’m referring to, and generally don’t like it and/or deny it. And yes, you are a snowflake.

Since we can now point out every person that disagrees with us as snowflakes, would that not make you a snowflake as well?

It's a stupid word. About as ridiculous as Fake News.

Tough world we live in. People see themselves as equals particularly within the university system. Kid reaches for something he thinks is equall for maximum impact and discovers The competition is waaay out of his league.. Oops!

(01-31-2018 11:36 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  Since we can now point out every person that disagrees with us as snowflakes, would that not make you a snowflake as well?

It's a stupid word. About as ridiculous as Fake News.

I've always hated the term Fake News. It was trumpeted as some kind of revelation. Journalism has never been the beacon of integrity those in the industry would have you believe. Most "news" outlets are opinion blogs masquerading as such. They are for the most part factually correct. But it's not the facts that get in the way of the truth. It's how those facts are presented, lead, and spun into whatever they want you to think that's much more insidious. The conclusions Fox News and MSNBC want you to arrive at with the same facts are very different, though their agendas, and the agendas of every media outlet, and every business, are the same: to maximize profits. Why would it be anything else? When there's that much money involved, the needs of the consumer, and the needs of the provider have obvious differences. Media outlets maximize profits primarily through ad dollars and investors. More clicks, and more viewers (ratings) equal more ad dollars. They only care about you as far as they can make money off your statistical contribution to their ad reports. Ad giants are the ones indirectly curating the "news" you consume. People like Paula Dean aren't fired because companies want to do the right thing, they are fired because it makes the most sense financially. Pressure from aforementioned advertisers and investors fuel these "public acts of altruism". It was never about you, it was always about the money.

bull**** is defined as "stopping just short of a lie" - Harry Frankfurt's On bull****

There's the rub about "Fake News". It's not about the facts, but how they are presented to drive you to the conclusions they want you to have. People fall for it everyday because it's incredibly easy, even for more intelligent people. The media has it down to a science. After all they've been doing it since the mid 1800's and later, when the Yellow Press was thriving at the turn of the century. Fun Fact: One paper actually conned hundreds of people into believing that the Civil War wasn't actually happening, and that it was a political maneuver. This has been happening for a long, long time. Big money leaves a stain on everything it touches, and you can never, ever assume altruism or humanity.

I AM ANGRY!!!!!!!!!!!1!1!1!!!!!!1!!!!!one!!!!!!

(01-31-2018 12:54 PM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  I AM ANGRY!!!!!!!!!!!1!1!1!!!!!!1!!!!!one!!!!!!

Is this the same monster? http://www.southcarolina.usta.com/High_S...t_forward/


What a piece of work, he's clearly been planning this for years!

(01-31-2018 04:10 PM)bullitt_60 Wrote:  Is this the same monster? http://www.southcarolina.usta.com/High_S...t_forward/


What a piece of work, he's clearly been planning this for years!

He even looks stoned off his ass, just look at those squinty eyes!

(01-31-2018 04:30 PM)HighCountry Wrote:  

(01-31-2018 04:10 PM)bullitt_60 Wrote:  Is this the same monster? http://www.southcarolina.usta.com/High_S...t_forward/


What a piece of work, he's clearly been planning this for years!

He even looks stoned off his ass, just look at those squinty eyes!

No wonder he ended up in Boone.

(01-31-2018 04:10 PM)bullitt_60 Wrote:  Is this the same monster? http://www.southcarolina.usta.com/High_S...t_forward/


What a piece of work, he's clearly been planning this for years!

Good to know that you’ll absolve me of anything stupid I do in the future since I used to volunteer as a basketball and football coach at the Boys and Girls Club.

(01-31-2018 04:47 PM)CC Eagle Wrote:  

(01-31-2018 04:10 PM)bullitt_60 Wrote:  Is this the same monster? http://www.southcarolina.usta.com/High_S...t_forward/


What a piece of work, he's clearly been planning this for years!

Good to know that you’ll absolve me of anything stupid I do in the future since I used to volunteer as a basketball and football coach at the Boys and Girls Club.

It doesn't absolve him, but it should at least earn him the benefit of the doubt that he isn't a "turd" as someone described him and that he should be given the opportunity to apologize and make it better.

I quit social media to limit my sociopolitical large bovine feces saturation. It appears I might need to avoid the college sports message boards as well. What a shame. In response to the original title, App State hung the kid and suspended the coach within 24 hours of something on mother copulating twitter. I'd say Appalachian State looks fine.

(01-31-2018 05:15 PM)troutbummike Wrote:  I quit social media to limit my sociopolitical large bovine feces saturation. It appears I might need to avoid the college sports message boards as well. What a shame. In response to the original title, App State hung the kid and suspended the coach within 24 hours of something on mother copulating twitter. I'd say Appalachian State looks fine.

2nd SBC school in the last few weeks to have that happen too it seems.

(01-30-2018 01:16 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(01-30-2018 12:57 PM)Usajags Wrote:  I'm assuming the A&T kid won the match. I don't blame App St, I blame a stupid kid saying something stupid. App has done what is expected in today's world.

The App State kid actually won the match easily by a score of 6-1, 6-1. Not sure why there would've been a need to say anything derogatory to your opponent if you're beating them that bad.

In today's world where so many wants to be offended and be a victim, there is reason to believe nothing came down this way. For those claiming such insults, they know there is immediate media coverage if one is looking for his five minutes of fame. Seem really odd that a player would say such a thing. I just don't see it. Think its best for all of us to withhold judgement until the other side is heard and more facts known.

I think it reflects much more on the kid than the university to be honest. You can't filter out every problem student in the application process. App State has always appeared to be a classy university so I'm sure this is just one dude acting a fool.

(01-31-2018 04:54 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  

(01-31-2018 04:47 PM)CC Eagle Wrote:  

(01-31-2018 04:10 PM)bullitt_60 Wrote:  Is this the same monster? http://www.southcarolina.usta.com/High_S...t_forward/


What a piece of work, he's clearly been planning this for years!

Good to know that you’ll absolve me of anything stupid I do in the future since I used to volunteer as a basketball and football coach at the Boys and Girls Club.

It doesn't absolve him, but it should at least earn him the benefit of the doubt that he isn't a "turd" as someone described him and that he should be given the opportunity to apologize and make it better.

I agree. But I’d also argue that a stiff punishment is also due.

An apology- and hopefully an acceptance - is the natural end to things for reasonable people who can agree that people will do dumb and regrettable things, but that those things are fixable.

If you can’t look at the bigger picture surrounding the incident and the broader arguments and issues that this will bring up, you’re simply looking at the event as a zero-sum game and no amount of punishment or leniency will fit into that particular worldview.

(01-30-2018 03:06 PM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  The moron has been suspended indefinitely as he should have been.

If you want to be an ass, do it on your own time. Not when you're representing the Black and Gold.

Jus


He's lucky you don't have a rope, a tall tree and a few liquored up cowboys with you. Is it possible that he could be innocent? Just a little possible? How quick we condemn one person without even asking his side of the story. Says something about you.

(01-30-2018 03:30 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  Glad he was kicked off the team and not forced to issue a public apology.

Making racially insensitive remarks is worse than child molestation, murder, and rape combined!

This rates a 10 on the stupid scale. And we haven't even heard the other side.