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RE: A sobering look at the deficit many schools run in athletics, especially football
(01-30-2018 03:08 PM)NTXCoog12 Wrote:  
(01-30-2018 02:42 PM)MU88 Wrote:  Houston had $17,232 in ticket revenue from basketball. That number has to rival the take at some grade schools. Pathetic.

I call BS on that one. UNT has half of UH attendance but has 8 times the ticket sales revenue?

Well, not to mention that it is showing $346,223 in revenue for Houston women's basketball as compared to the $17,232 for the men. Whereas UNT is $102,973 for men and $20,877 for women. My guess is that the numbers for Houston's men's and women's basketball are reversed.
01-30-2018 03:24 PM
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RE: A sobering look at the deficit many schools run in athletics, especially football
UTSA basketball has 1/4 attendance but 3.5x revenue
01-30-2018 03:24 PM
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RE: A sobering look at the deficit many schools run in athletics, especially football
(01-30-2018 03:24 PM)RobUCF Wrote:  
(01-30-2018 03:08 PM)NTXCoog12 Wrote:  
(01-30-2018 02:42 PM)MU88 Wrote:  Houston had $17,232 in ticket revenue from basketball. That number has to rival the take at some grade schools. Pathetic.

I call BS on that one. UNT has half of UH attendance but has 8 times the ticket sales revenue?

Well, not to mention that it is showing $346,223 in revenue for Houston women's basketball as compared to the $17,232 for the men. Whereas UNT is $102,973 for men and $20,877 for women. My guess is that the numbers for Houston's men's and women's basketball are reversed.

Yeah. Has to be. There are around 3000 season tickets sold for mens basketball. A season ticket would sell for less than $6 if that was correct. No way thats right. The cheapest season ticket is at least $100 if I remember correctly.
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01-30-2018 03:30 PM
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RE: A sobering look at the deficit many schools run in athletics, especially football
(01-30-2018 03:30 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(01-30-2018 03:24 PM)RobUCF Wrote:  
(01-30-2018 03:08 PM)NTXCoog12 Wrote:  
(01-30-2018 02:42 PM)MU88 Wrote:  Houston had $17,232 in ticket revenue from basketball. That number has to rival the take at some grade schools. Pathetic.

I call BS on that one. UNT has half of UH attendance but has 8 times the ticket sales revenue?

Well, not to mention that it is showing $346,223 in revenue for Houston women's basketball as compared to the $17,232 for the men. Whereas UNT is $102,973 for men and $20,877 for women. My guess is that the numbers for Houston's men's and women's basketball are reversed.

Yeah. Has to be. There are around 3000 season tickets sold for mens basketball. A season ticket would sell for less than $6 if that was correct. No way thats right. The cheapest season ticket is at least $100 if I remember correctly.

The 2015-16 NCAA report for Houston does indeed report men's basketball revenue as $17,232. However, the report runs 71 pages and is broken down into a myriad details. The Dept. of Education report at https://ope.ed.gov/athletics reports Houston men's basketball revenue at $6,023,125 for the 2015-16 season. Looks like the numbers needed some additional crunching.
01-30-2018 05:05 PM
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RE: A sobering look at the deficit many schools run in athletics, especially football
Much of these numbers are bs because of the "cost" of a scholarship. Those numbers have to be accounted for but the true costs are negligible because the sunk cost is already paid. Most athletic departments aren't truly in the red.
01-30-2018 05:32 PM
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RE: A sobering look at the deficit many schools run in athletics, especially football
Ie 90% of the G4 will be FCS in five years..probably starting with the MAC.
01-30-2018 05:43 PM
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RE: A sobering look at the deficit many schools run in athletics, especially football
(01-30-2018 05:05 PM)mikeinoki Wrote:  
(01-30-2018 03:30 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(01-30-2018 03:24 PM)RobUCF Wrote:  
(01-30-2018 03:08 PM)NTXCoog12 Wrote:  
(01-30-2018 02:42 PM)MU88 Wrote:  Houston had $17,232 in ticket revenue from basketball. That number has to rival the take at some grade schools. Pathetic.

I call BS on that one. UNT has half of UH attendance but has 8 times the ticket sales revenue?

Well, not to mention that it is showing $346,223 in revenue for Houston women's basketball as compared to the $17,232 for the men. Whereas UNT is $102,973 for men and $20,877 for women. My guess is that the numbers for Houston's men's and women's basketball are reversed.

Yeah. Has to be. There are around 3000 season tickets sold for mens basketball. A season ticket would sell for less than $6 if that was correct. No way thats right. The cheapest season ticket is at least $100 if I remember correctly.

The 2015-16 NCAA report for Houston does indeed report men's basketball revenue as $17,232. However, the report runs 71 pages and is broken down into a myriad details. The Dept. of Education report at https://ope.ed.gov/athletics reports Houston men's basketball revenue at $6,023,125 for the 2015-16 season. Looks like the numbers needed some additional crunching.

I dont think the numbers are off that much---I think they just put the womens basketball numbers in the mens section and the mens numbers in the womens section. They just made a transcription error.
01-30-2018 07:22 PM
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RE: A sobering look at the deficit many schools run in athletics, especially football
These figures aren't new... And some programs are better experts in balancing vs others.
01-30-2018 08:56 PM
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RE: A sobering look at the deficit many schools run in athletics, especially football
Here is something damn interesting that I found:

Comprehensive chart of expenditures and revenues of all Div 1 teams

(Maybe it is not as dire if THESE numbers are MORE accurate ?)
01-30-2018 09:50 PM
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RE: A sobering look at the deficit many schools run in athletics, especially football
(01-30-2018 02:27 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  Its frightening what has happened to UTEP. No school was hurt more in the last round of realignment from the G5 schools than UTEP.

There's no reason for them to be as bad as they are. They're the only game in town and have huge, historic venues in both major sports. They have a romantic history in basketball. I've gotta blame the administration. There's no reason they should be languishing at the bottom of C-USA, getting beaten by programs that didn't even exist when they won a national title and when the Sun Bowl game was created.
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