(01-30-2018 10:59 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(01-30-2018 10:56 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  00 Team
92 Team
96 Team
93 Team
01 Team

those are our best teams since Huggins took over

no idea where this year team fits in...

01 team was not one of the 5 best. 02 team was though.

u r correct...my bad

(01-30-2018 10:56 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  00 Team
92 Team
96 Team
93 Team
01 Team

those are our best teams since Huggins took over

no idea where this year team fits in...

Of all years no matter how far they went, the 96 team was the biggest let down for me. Great draw, great seed, great locations for our fans, and then just looked absolutely disinterested most of the game against Mississippi State in Lexington in the Elite 8 game.

(01-29-2018 09:41 PM)Cataclysmo Wrote:  They should be, at the very least, a Sweet 16 team.

They should've been last year as well. But a west-coast matchup against another 30-win team (one of UCLA's best in recent memory) did us in early.

This year's squad is better, however, and should likewise receive a better seed. Depending on match ups, an elite eight/final four run is not out of the question.

Only teams I really don't think they can beat are Purdue and Nova. Other than that, a lot of luck is going to factor into the final 2 months of the season.

Personally, they beat what I think was a better Purdue team in the first round just a couple years ago. This one only has one monster in the middle.

(01-30-2018 10:47 AM)rosewater Wrote:  

(01-30-2018 09:15 AM)JunctaJuvant Wrote:  

(01-29-2018 09:17 PM)rosewater Wrote:  I think that we are as good as the 92 team but not the 00 or 96.

NO way this team is as good as the 92 team. Nick Van Exel, Erik Martin, Terry Nelson, AD Jackson, Terrence Gibson, Corey Blount. That team went to the elite 8 and lost to National Champ UNC in overtime, coming off a Final 4 the previous year. Backups were Curtis Bostic, LaZelle Durden, Keith Gregor.

The 92 team was the final four team. I think the 93 team was better even though they exited the field earlier.

If you want to get picky, those were the NCAA tournament years. However teams go by year in which they started the season, hence the 1991/92 team actually is "deemed" the 1991 team, even though they were in the Final 4 in 1992. Semantics at this point.

(01-30-2018 10:42 AM)Bruce Monnin Wrote:  I love that this team is 19-2 and doesn't lose games they are supposed to win.

Unfortunately, this will be a highly forgettable regular season, due to lack of big games. Fair or not, this team will be judged solely on the basis of how far it gets in the NCAA tournament.

Because Cronin's teams have not made it far in the tournament, and because UC hasn't done so in more than 20 years, no regular season achievements will satisfy a significant portion of UC fans. I understand it to some degree, but it's annoying. UC can't make the Final Four in January, so either find some happiness in their regular season success or just go away until March.

(01-30-2018 11:15 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(01-30-2018 10:56 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  00 Team
92 Team
96 Team
93 Team
01 Team

those are our best teams since Huggins took over

no idea where this year team fits in...

Of all years no matter how far they went, the 96 team was the biggest let down for me. Great draw, great seed, great locations for our fans, and then just looked absolutely disinterested most of the game against Mississippi State in Lexington in the Elite 8 game.

100% agree
It didn’t help and I’m going off memory here I think Damon flight was like 1 for 12. Also Mississippi State have that Juco small forward cannot remember his name he hit some on believable shots in the first half. Dante Jones? But yeah we had no business losing to that Mississippi State team. After annihilating the ACC tournament champion Georgia Tech I really thought we were going to least get to the final four.

(01-30-2018 08:52 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  I think we still have some folks who were KState fans for a minute a dozen years ago who have latent conditioning to fight accepting how good things are right now.

Do we really have some fans who will be more involved if we are struggling versus being ranked #8 in the country with our score updates on the ESPN bottom of the screen ticker every game? Yep. It’s certifiably cookoo.

I don’t give a darn if they sit out or pout or whatever this is. Missing out on one hell of a season.

Rath, I get it that your shtick is to always be the smartest guy on this board and the moral arbitrator of how to be a true fan, I just think you are missing on this one.

I'm not sure anyone has said this team is "bad" or "not good". There just happens to be some folks that aren't exactly sure how good we are yet. Speaking for myself, I have very much enjoyed this year so far and I hope to continue enjoying all the way through March. What the hell is the point of even posting here and having a message board if all the opinions are about how happy we are to be #8 in the country! That's what you call an echo chamber.

There are still some legitimate questions about how truly good/great this team is. I know we are good, just not sure how good. All I know is that we are better than the best team we have beaten (Buffalo). Hopefully we can get a better picture coming up now that the schedule appears to be cranking it up a notch these next few weeks.

Either way I am pretty sure we are all Bearcat fans here. We all spend way too much time, money, and energy on the them to not be.

(01-30-2018 11:15 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(01-30-2018 10:56 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  00 Team
92 Team
96 Team
93 Team
01 Team

those are our best teams since Huggins took over

no idea where this year team fits in...

Of all years no matter how far they went, the 96 team was the biggest let down for me. Great draw, great seed, great locations for our fans, and then just looked absolutely disinterested most of the game against Mississippi State in Lexington in the Elite 8 game.

The draw was insane.... 2 seed. Decimated Marbury's GT team in the sweet 16. Then played one of their worst games of the season against Mississippi State (a 5 seed). Had they made the final 4 they'd have draw 4 seeded Syracuse. Yea they probably don't beat UK in the finals, but the the championship was there for the taking that year.

Honestly, the other great UC teams played fairly well even in their tournament losses (throwing out the 2000 team which didn't have its best player). That Mississippi State loss was frustrating on so many levels.

(01-30-2018 12:02 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(01-30-2018 11:15 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(01-30-2018 10:56 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  00 Team
92 Team
96 Team
93 Team
01 Team

those are our best teams since Huggins took over

no idea where this year team fits in...

Of all years no matter how far they went, the 96 team was the biggest let down for me. Great draw, great seed, great locations for our fans, and then just looked absolutely disinterested most of the game against Mississippi State in Lexington in the Elite 8 game.

100% agree
It didn’t help and I’m going off memory here I think Damon flight was like 1 for 12. Also Mississippi State have that Juco small forward cannot remember his name he hit some on believable shots in the first half. Dante Jones? But yeah we had no business losing to that Mississippi State team. After annihilating the ACC tournament champion Georgia Tech I really thought we were going to least get to the final four.

Yup, Dante (sp?) Jones. I get sick thinking of him. Dude couldn't miss and rode that tourney run to get himself in the Association.

Why do so many people care about how others view this team/season, and if they are enjoying it or having any fun watching it? To each is own. People determine their own view of success and what they think may be considered fun. I could care less if you are getting your jollies off rankings and kenpom stats. Have at it and enjoy yourself!

But since it was asked, fun to me is:

Beating NCAA tourney caliber teams (which has been few and far between)
Beating your rival (which they did not do)
Winning your conference (TBD)
Winning your conference tournament (TBD)
Making a deep run in the NCAA (TBD).

If they can't check off 3 out of those 5, then watching this team isn't any more fun than watching last years team who won 30 games.

(01-30-2018 12:40 PM)Cat-Man Wrote:  Why do so many people care about how others view this team/season, and if they are enjoying it or having any fun watching it? To each is own. People determine their own view of success and what they think may be considered fun. I could care less if you are getting your jollies off rankings and kenpom stats. Have at it and enjoy yourself!

But since it was asked, fun to me is:

Beating NCAA tourney caliber teams (which has been few and far between)
Beating your rival (which they did not do)
Winning your conference (TBD)
Winning your conference tournament (TBD)
Making a deep run in the NCAA (TBD).

If they can't check off 3 out of those 5, then watching this team isn't any more fun than watching last years team who won 30 games.

So if they win the conference, lose the conference tournament and win the national championship, this seasons hasn't been fun?

(01-30-2018 11:37 AM)JunctaJuvant Wrote:  

(01-30-2018 10:47 AM)rosewater Wrote:  

(01-30-2018 09:15 AM)JunctaJuvant Wrote:  

(01-29-2018 09:17 PM)rosewater Wrote:  I think that we are as good as the 92 team but not the 00 or 96.

NO way this team is as good as the 92 team. Nick Van Exel, Erik Martin, Terry Nelson, AD Jackson, Terrence Gibson, Corey Blount. That team went to the elite 8 and lost to National Champ UNC in overtime, coming off a Final 4 the previous year. Backups were Curtis Bostic, LaZelle Durden, Keith Gregor.

The 92 team was the final four team. I think the 93 team was better even though they exited the field earlier.

If you want to get picky, those were the NCAA tournament years. However teams go by year in which they started the season, hence the 1991/92 team actually is "deemed" the 1991 team, even though they were in the Final 4 in 1992. Semantics at this point.

Not trying to be picky. Just telling you my intent when I wrote a comparison to the current team.

(01-30-2018 12:40 PM)Cat-Man Wrote:  Why do so many people care about how others view this team/season, and if they are enjoying it or having any fun watching it? To each is own. People determine their own view of success and what they think may be considered fun. I could care less if you are getting your jollies off rankings and kenpom stats. Have at it and enjoy yourself!

But since it was asked, fun to me is:

Beating NCAA tourney caliber teams (which has been few and far between)
Beating your rival (which they did not do)
Winning your conference (TBD)
Winning your conference tournament (TBD)
Making a deep run in the NCAA (TBD).

If they can't check off 3 out of those 5, then watching this team isn't any more fun than watching last years team who won 30 games.

They can't check off the last three of those things until the regular season is over, so why even watch these games?

The only thing that could happen tomorrow night that would have any effect on you would be if they lost to Houston. Why give yourself the potential aggravation with no payoff?

(01-29-2018 10:10 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  I feel bad for anyone who has zoned out on this season. It's been a joy to watch.

I guess I've blown it. I'm mos def guilty of zoning out after that 4 game stretch. Based on the responses to this thread i feel like it's time to plug back in.



mc

(01-30-2018 01:03 PM)levydl Wrote:  

(01-30-2018 12:40 PM)Cat-Man Wrote:  Why do so many people care about how others view this team/season, and if they are enjoying it or having any fun watching it? To each is own. People determine their own view of success and what they think may be considered fun. I could care less if you are getting your jollies off rankings and kenpom stats. Have at it and enjoy yourself!

But since it was asked, fun to me is:

Beating NCAA tourney caliber teams (which has been few and far between)
Beating your rival (which they did not do)
Winning your conference (TBD)
Winning your conference tournament (TBD)
Making a deep run in the NCAA (TBD).

If they can't check off 3 out of those 5, then watching this team isn't any more fun than watching last years team who won 30 games.

They can't check off the last three of those things until the regular season is over, so why even watch these games?

The only thing that could happen tomorrow night that would have any effect on you would be if they lost to Houston. Why give yourself the potential aggravation with no payoff?

The attitude of many that the regular season is worthless is so foreign to me. I don't know how basketball could ever been fun to follow if that was the case.

(01-29-2018 11:12 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  This guy posts on multiple UC message boards and we are supposed to think he doesn’t know what is up with this team? Really?

It bullsh!t or baths!t crazy. Pick em.

Football, sir. I talk about Football. I am a big fan of CFB.

Cynical much? I literally haven't watched a game since the UF game. You don't see me commenting on our hoops team much cuz i'm simply out the loop. Life happens.






mc

How in the world any UC sports fan who is into this enough to post on a message board(s) can say they don’t know much about the basketball team this year is nuts. If UC soccer was ranked #8 in the nation despite the fact that I think that is the metric system of college sports I’d know what was going on even if I lived in a cave with AOL dial up.

You poor dude...you were Tubberville’s Private Message Board Sir Lancelot for years and suffered through that dreck blindly but can’t bring yourself to watch this and don’t like Mick? Bwahahahah! That is priceless.

(01-30-2018 12:40 PM)Cat-Man Wrote:  Why do so many people care about how others view this team/season, and if they are enjoying it or having any fun watching it? To each is own. People determine their own view of success and what they think may be considered fun. I could care less if you are getting your jollies off rankings and kenpom stats. Have at it and enjoy yourself!

But since it was asked, fun to me is:

Beating NCAA tourney caliber teams (which has been few and far between)
Beating your rival (which they did not do)
Winning your conference (TBD)
Winning your conference tournament (TBD)
Making a deep run in the NCAA (TBD).

If they can't check off 3 out of those 5, then watching this team isn't any more fun than watching last years team who won 30 games.

So like 2 teams per year? Under those metrics, South Carolina fans wouldn't have enjoyed their Final Four run last year. Lets see, they lost to Clemson, Memphis, UK, Vanderbilt, Florida, Mississippi, Alabama in the conference championship.

So they lost to their rivals, didn't win their conference, didn't win their conference tournament, and went on a run to the final four. Must have sucked for them last year.

(01-30-2018 02:43 PM)skylinecat Wrote:  

(01-30-2018 12:40 PM)Cat-Man Wrote:  Why do so many people care about how others view this team/season, and if they are enjoying it or having any fun watching it? To each is own. People determine their own view of success and what they think may be considered fun. I could care less if you are getting your jollies off rankings and kenpom stats. Have at it and enjoy yourself!

But since it was asked, fun to me is:

Beating NCAA tourney caliber teams (which has been few and far between)
Beating your rival (which they did not do)
Winning your conference (TBD)
Winning your conference tournament (TBD)
Making a deep run in the NCAA (TBD).

If they can't check off 3 out of those 5, then watching this team isn't any more fun than watching last years team who won 30 games.

So like 2 teams per year? Under those metrics, South Carolina fans wouldn't have enjoyed their Final Four run last year. Lets see, they lost to Clemson, Memphis, UK, Vanderbilt, Florida, Mississippi, Alabama in the conference championship.

So they lost to their rivals, didn't win their conference, didn't win their conference tournament, and went on a run to the final four. Must have sucked for them last year.

Even Xavier last year, lost a bunch of their games to NCAA tournament caliber teams, lost to their rival, weren't remotely close in the conference, lost in their conference tournament. They did make a nice NCAA tournament run so they were 1/5... sucks for X fans.

(01-30-2018 02:11 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  How in the world any UC sports fan who is into this enough to post on a message board(s) can say they don’t know much about the basketball team this year is nuts. If UC soccer was ranked #8 in the nation despite the fact that I think that is the metric system of college sports I’d know what was going on even if I lived in a cave with AOL dial up.

You poor dude...you were Tubberville’s Private Message Board Sir Lancelot for years and suffered through that dreck blindly but can’t bring yourself to watch this and don’t like Mick? Bwahahahah! That is priceless.

Wait, this is trolling, right? You're literally asking how can a man allocate his personal time in a way that you don't....idk....get? Only so many hours in a day to be allocated to whatever happens to be tickling one's fancy at the moment.

As i said in my initial post, i'm just not as into CBB as i am into CFB. Don't make stuff complicated when it's relatively easy.

I'm simply dipping my toe in the water to check the temperature. Doing a heat check by asking those of us that are following more closely than myself. Lol @ that eliciting whatever reaction from you that you're expressing.

Anywho, I appreciate the update, y'all. I'll plug back in, and hope for the best come March. I'm not exactly pro-Mick, but it'd be a great joy to see us have some tourney success.




mc