(01-29-2018 02:41 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote: I forgot just how good Lorenzen was in college. Hard to believe that 1996 team lost in the 1st round to Drexel. Also, makes you wonder how far they could've gone in 1995 if not for the BS hand check on Garner. That team started Wright, Vaughn, and Henderson -3 McDonalds AA's - on the front line. Its all a far cry from where we are at now.
A pre injury Vaughn would put that front line as 2cd best we’ve ever had behind Lee, Bedford and Batman.
Not that I disagree with you, but Larry Kenon, Ronnie "Big Cat" Robinson, and Wes Westfall/Billy Buford might have something to say about that.
Lee/Bedford win that match up but Kenon was phenomenal.
(01-30-2018 10:44 AM)airric2255 Wrote: I can recall this game clearly. GREAT first half... AWFUL second half!
Yep.
One of the best 1st halves I've seen that was competitive.
1st half against Michigan state in the tournament wasn't competitive but putting up 50 against them in a NCAA game was the 2nd best 1st half I've seen. Best 1st half I've witnessed as a Tiger fan was the 1st half where Vaughn got injured in the 2nd half. Bud Walton was silent.
A lot of great players in that game, that hog team really became a powerhouse and won a national title a few years later. I think we were their first big win with that young crew of Scottie Thurman and Corliss Williamson. Of course, the Vaugn injury played a huge role in the 2nd half.
I remember they added Corey Beck and that fat guy (Dwight Stewert) who could stroke the 3. They had a little tiny guy also (Alex Dillard) who was dynamite from 3. We Had Penny/Vaughn, Smith & Douglas..... and then Cedric, Chris Garner, Rodney Newsome and that crew came in. Lorenzen and Wilson joined them the next year.
And who could forget Leon Mitchell?
Fun times.
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Pre-Vaugn injury, that 1992-93 team was final 4 caliber. Their only weakness on the team was at PG, and Penny could handle that in a pinch. They needed another shot blocker behind Vaughn but when is that not the case? Vaughn had amazing quickness and leaping ability pre injury. And he would really run the floor.
If Tony Madlock could have had 1 more year to run the point....they missed him bad that year. Penny was able to play SF and score & rebound at a very high % in college, though he obviously had natural PG skills as well. He was electrifying in transition.
Penny looked so much more talented and multidimensional than any other player in college in those days.
(This post was last modified: 01-31-2018 01:45 AM by ericsrevenge76.)
(01-30-2018 10:44 AM)airric2255 Wrote: I can recall this game clearly. GREAT first half... AWFUL second half!
Yep.
One of the best 1st halves I've seen that was competitive.
1st half against Michigan state in the tournament wasn't competitive but putting up 50 against them in a NCAA game was the 2nd best 1st half I've seen. Best 1st half I've witnessed as a Tiger fan was the 1st half where Vaughn got injured in the 2nd half. Bud Walton was silent.
A lot of great players in that game, that hog team really became a powerhouse and won a national title a few years later. I think we were their first big win with that young crew of Scottie Thurman and Corliss Williamson. Of course, the Vaugn injury played a huge role in the 2nd half.
I remember they added Corey Beck and that fat guy (Dwight Stewert) who could stroke the 3. They had a little tiny guy also (Alex Dillard) who was dynamite from 3. We Had Penny/Vaughn, Smith & Douglas..... and then Cedric, Chris Garner, Rodney Newsome and that crew came in. Lorenzen and Wilson joined them the next year.
And who could forget Leon Mitchell?
Fun times.
Calling Arkansas a powerhouse is a stretch. We were so much more talented. Nolan’s system was their ace. Solid team but no powerhouse.
(01-30-2018 10:44 AM)airric2255 Wrote: I can recall this game clearly. GREAT first half... AWFUL second half!
Yep.
One of the best 1st halves I've seen that was competitive.
1st half against Michigan state in the tournament wasn't competitive but putting up 50 against them in a NCAA game was the 2nd best 1st half I've seen. Best 1st half I've witnessed as a Tiger fan was the 1st half where Vaughn got injured in the 2nd half. Bud Walton was silent.
A lot of great players in that game, that hog team really became a powerhouse and won a national title a few years later. I think we were their first big win with that young crew of Scottie Thurman and Corliss Williamson. Of course, the Vaugn injury played a huge role in the 2nd half.
I remember they added Corey Beck and that fat guy (Dwight Stewert) who could stroke the 3. They had a little tiny guy also (Alex Dillard) who was dynamite from 3. We Had Penny/Vaughn, Smith & Douglas..... and then Cedric, Chris Garner, Rodney Newsome and that crew came in. Lorenzen and Wilson joined them the next year.
And who could forget Leon Mitchell?
Fun times.
Calling Arkansas a powerhouse is a stretch. We were so much more talented. Nolan’s system was their ace. Solid team but no powerhouse.
Nolan had a 7 year stretch where he won the conference/division each year and went...
25-7 2nd Round
30-5 Final Four
34-4 Elite Eight
26-8 2nd Round
22-9 Sweet 16
31-2 Natty
32-7 Natty Runner Up
It's a subjective term, but I'd call that a powerhouse.
(01-30-2018 10:44 AM)airric2255 Wrote: I can recall this game clearly. GREAT first half... AWFUL second half!
Yep.
One of the best 1st halves I've seen that was competitive.
1st half against Michigan state in the tournament wasn't competitive but putting up 50 against them in a NCAA game was the 2nd best 1st half I've seen. Best 1st half I've witnessed as a Tiger fan was the 1st half where Vaughn got injured in the 2nd half. Bud Walton was silent.
A lot of great players in that game, that hog team really became a powerhouse and won a national title a few years later. I think we were their first big win with that young crew of Scottie Thurman and Corliss Williamson. Of course, the Vaugn injury played a huge role in the 2nd half.
I remember they added Corey Beck and that fat guy (Dwight Stewert) who could stroke the 3. They had a little tiny guy also (Alex Dillard) who was dynamite from 3. We Had Penny/Vaughn, Smith & Douglas..... and then Cedric, Chris Garner, Rodney Newsome and that crew came in. Lorenzen and Wilson joined them the next year.
And who could forget Leon Mitchell?
Fun times.
Calling Arkansas a powerhouse is a stretch. We were so much more talented. Nolan’s system was their ace. Solid team but no powerhouse.
Nolan had a 7 year stretch where he won the conference/division each year and went...
25-7 2nd Round
30-5 Final Four
34-4 Elite Eight
26-8 2nd Round
22-9 Sweet 16
31-2 Natty
32-7 Natty Runner Up
It's a subjective term, but I'd call that a powerhouse.
It is subjective but 94 feet of hell was a new and unique system that took a lot of talent and discipline to beat it. We did several times but it was a style that we matched up well with.
One of the best 1st halves I've seen that was competitive.
1st half against Michigan state in the tournament wasn't competitive but putting up 50 against them in a NCAA game was the 2nd best 1st half I've seen. Best 1st half I've witnessed as a Tiger fan was the 1st half where Vaughn got injured in the 2nd half. Bud Walton was silent.
A lot of great players in that game, that hog team really became a powerhouse and won a national title a few years later. I think we were their first big win with that young crew of Scottie Thurman and Corliss Williamson. Of course, the Vaugn injury played a huge role in the 2nd half.
I remember they added Corey Beck and that fat guy (Dwight Stewert) who could stroke the 3. They had a little tiny guy also (Alex Dillard) who was dynamite from 3. We Had Penny/Vaughn, Smith & Douglas..... and then Cedric, Chris Garner, Rodney Newsome and that crew came in. Lorenzen and Wilson joined them the next year.
And who could forget Leon Mitchell?
Fun times.
Calling Arkansas a powerhouse is a stretch. We were so much more talented. Nolan’s system was their ace. Solid team but no powerhouse.
Nolan had a 7 year stretch where he won the conference/division each year and went...
25-7 2nd Round
30-5 Final Four
34-4 Elite Eight
26-8 2nd Round
22-9 Sweet 16
31-2 Natty
32-7 Natty Runner Up
It's a subjective term, but I'd call that a powerhouse.
It is subjective but 94 feet of hell was a new and unique system that took a lot of talent and discipline to beat it. We did several times but it was a style that we matched up well with.
How many players from Memphis were in that game? Memphis had 4 in the starting line up--Nolan, Dr. Billy, Penny, and Douglas (Vaughn was from Nashville). Arkansas had 3: the Fairley boys, Beck and Stewart, and the one of the wings, Clint McDaniel, I think.
What a great atmosphere, even if we lost. Nolan's '40 minutes of hell' could just as easily be labeled '40 minutes of hacking, hand-checking and making the refs swallow their whistles unless you want 2.5 hour game.' It worked, but between Pitino's 'defense' and Nolan's 'hell' there just a ton of hacking, bumping, etc..
I still remember when Cal would bait the officials BEFORE the games against Pitino since he knew that Pitino thrived on the ref's looking the other way. If Pitino didn't get the intimidation factor for the refs, his teams were beatable. Otherwise, it was virtually impossible to beat a Pitino-coached team.
(01-31-2018 01:06 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote: A lot of great players in that game, that hog team really became a powerhouse and won a national title a few years later. I think we were their first big win with that young crew of Scottie Thurman and Corliss Williamson. Of course, the Vaugn injury played a huge role in the 2nd half.
I remember they added Corey Beck and that fat guy (Dwight Stewert) who could stroke the 3. They had a little tiny guy also (Alex Dillard) who was dynamite from 3. We Had Penny/Vaughn, Smith & Douglas..... and then Cedric, Chris Garner, Rodney Newsome and that crew came in. Lorenzen and Wilson joined them the next year.
And who could forget Leon Mitchell?
Fun times.
Calling Arkansas a powerhouse is a stretch. We were so much more talented. Nolan’s system was their ace. Solid team but no powerhouse.
Nolan had a 7 year stretch where he won the conference/division each year and went...
25-7 2nd Round
30-5 Final Four
34-4 Elite Eight
26-8 2nd Round
22-9 Sweet 16
31-2 Natty
32-7 Natty Runner Up
It's a subjective term, but I'd call that a powerhouse.
It is subjective but 94 feet of hell was a new and unique system that took a lot of talent and discipline to beat it. We did several times but it was a style that we matched up well with.
How many players from Memphis were in that game? Memphis had 4 in the starting line up--Nolan, Dr. Billy, Penny, and Douglas (Vaughn was from Nashville). Arkansas had 3: the Fairley boys, Beck and Stewart, and the one of the wings, Clint McDaniel, I think.
(01-31-2018 11:52 AM)Shooters Wrote: Calling Arkansas a powerhouse is a stretch. We were so much more talented. Nolan’s system was their ace. Solid team but no powerhouse.
Nolan had a 7 year stretch where he won the conference/division each year and went...
25-7 2nd Round
30-5 Final Four
34-4 Elite Eight
26-8 2nd Round
22-9 Sweet 16
31-2 Natty
32-7 Natty Runner Up
It's a subjective term, but I'd call that a powerhouse.
It is subjective but 94 feet of hell was a new and unique system that took a lot of talent and discipline to beat it. We did several times but it was a style that we matched up well with.
How many players from Memphis were in that game? Memphis had 4 in the starting line up--Nolan, Dr. Billy, Penny, and Douglas (Vaughn was from Nashville). Arkansas had 3: the Fairley boys, Beck and Stewart, and the one of the wings, Clint McDaniel, I think.
Not going to Google it but what about Todd Day?
Todd day and company graduated the year before this game.
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1996 Flyin' Tigers v. G'town Game
