So they have a lot of issues over there in Spartanville. It’s like Penn State all over again.Are we poaching any of their talent?
Their AD just resigned.... Wonder if Monty has anything to say about it? Too soon?

Dantonio will end up fired, he clearly is lying and has been covering up. Izzo may not survive this either. I put him at 50/50

What did they know and When did they know it?

There are journalists all over this and I think there's a LOT more to come as far as cover-ups and looking the other way.

This IS worse than Ped State. (Edit)

(01-26-2018 04:31 PM)BDB5yp Wrote:  So they have a lot of issues over there in Spartanville. It’s like Penn State all over again.Are we poaching any of their talent?
Their AD just resigned.... Wonder if Monty has anything to say about it? Too soon?

This is way beyond Penn State.

Monty.

http://amp.daily-chronicle.com/2018/01/2...ssion=true

I said to Monty at the coaches show “what do you think of this Michigan St stuff” this was Thursday before we new a lot. He didn’t say anything. I also said “this is going to get ugly many big names are in big trouble” I was just talking to him like I normally do. Lou Dawkins our ex assistants son is at the center of the ncaa scandal and now this at Michigan St. Too close for comfort for Monty is all I can say.

Be stunned if public lynch mob will fire Dantonio or Izzo. ESPNs article did.not mention any full coaching staff member assaulting anyone. It did mention Dantonio kicking players off the team. I seem to recall him doing something similar about 7,8 years ago about some players in s major fight.

If you want to go after someone go after Kelly at ND. The fiasco at CMU with the players involved in a murder or a team manager being blown off the video tower at practice and being killed. Now there's a guy who should be out of college athletics, not Dantonio or Izzo.

The power of the vigalante mob/knobs to be jury and judge always has to be controlled.

NIU05, Dantonio said nothing has happened in the eleven years since he’s been there. That was shown to be false by ESPN. And there is records of basketball players committing assault along with assistant coach and no punishment.

Journalists....Filing FOIAs as fast as they can.

Watch the ESPN OTH video clip and you see Monty in pictures and video highlighting some of the players that were accused of wrong doing. He clearly has to discuss this and his current silence is deafening. Unless I missed something there is no denial or distancing from the situation. Monty is going to take heat and I don it think he survives.

I don’t believe Monty takes any heat but I do believe Izzo is going to.

(01-27-2018 03:00 PM)dekalb222 Wrote:  I don’t believe Monty takes any heat but I do believe Izzo is going to.

He needs to come clean with a denial or this is going to hound him. He must comment on what he knew and how he dealt with Travis Walton situation.

(01-27-2018 10:23 AM)NIU05 Wrote:  Be stunned if public lynch mob will fire Dantonio or Izzo. ESPNs article did.not mention any full coaching staff member assaulting anyone. It did mention Dantonio kicking players off the team. I seem to recall him doing something similar about 7,8 years ago about some players in s major fight.

If you want to go after someone go after Kelly at ND. The fiasco at CMU with the players involved in a murder or a team manager being blown off the video tower at practice and being killed. Now there's a guy who should be out of college athletics, not Dantonio or Izzo.

The power of the vigalante mob/knobs to be jury and judge always has to be controlled.

Pretty much agree.

I don't think these are really "cover-ups" rather than decisions to not act.

You want to start kicking every player out of school for accusations when the crime was looked into and even no charges filed, good luck. And then you want to blame the coaches when school admin, law enforcement do nothing?

It's a slippery slope because you act on one false allegation, that could lead to another and have a wide assortment of ramifications. If you want to start getting rid of players for every misdemeanor committed in school do we then look at there record before they enroll and reject them on that premise? I am sure there would be a number of players kicked off teams and plenty who would never have enrolled.

And as for someone saying this is "worse" that PSU. No, it's not. The coaches were the ones doing the molesting AND covering up some administration.

This ESPN story is obviously linked to Nassar. It seems they, many are out to indict the whole MSU community while playing it as a "culture" they created and accepted. The admin, the AD went down for it and that's fine. I just want to know when all the OTL are coming for schools, players that have been in similar situations, every sport, every athlete. If they want to clean up the NCAA, make change I don't think you tear down one house in the kingdom. You go for the king's castle.

But then again, the king pays their bills.

(01-26-2018 04:31 PM)BDB5yp Wrote:  So they have a lot of issues over there in Spartanville. It’s like Penn State all over again. Are we poaching any of their talent?

Seriously?
You think Rod or someone from his staff should be parked in East Lansing?

(01-27-2018 04:06 PM)uiniu57 Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 04:31 PM)BDB5yp Wrote:  So they have a lot of issues over there in Spartanville. It’s like Penn State all over again. Are we poaching any of their talent?

Seriously?
You think Rod or someone from his staff should be parked in East Lansing?

Lol. Not really. Just getting the conversation going. We do recruit some of the same players though. If players that we recruited that are not guilty need a fresh start.... Why not?

(01-27-2018 04:00 PM)randyfensfanclub1 Wrote:  

(01-27-2018 10:23 AM)NIU05 Wrote:  Be stunned if public lynch mob will fire Dantonio or Izzo. ESPNs article did.not mention any full coaching staff member assaulting anyone. It did mention Dantonio kicking players off the team. I seem to recall him doing something similar about 7,8 years ago about some players in s major fight.

If you want to go after someone go after Kelly at ND. The fiasco at CMU with the players involved in a murder or a team manager being blown off the video tower at practice and being killed. Now there's a guy who should be out of college athletics, not Dantonio or Izzo.

The power of the vigalante mob/knobs to be jury and judge always has to be controlled.

Pretty much agree.

I don't think these are really "cover-ups" rather than decisions to not act.

You want to start kicking every player out of school for accusations when the crime was looked into and even no charges filed, good luck. And then you want to blame the coaches when school admin, law enforcement do nothing?

It's a slippery slope because you act on one false allegation, that could lead to another and have a wide assortment of ramifications. If you want to start getting rid of players for every misdemeanor committed in school do we then look at there record before they enroll and reject them on that premise? I am sure there would be a number of players kicked off teams and plenty who would never have enrolled.

And as for someone saying this is "worse" that PSU. No, it's not. The coaches were the ones doing the molesting AND covering up some administration.

This ESPN story is obviously linked to Nassar. It seems they, many are out to indict the whole MSU community while playing it as a "culture" they created and accepted. The admin, the AD went down for it and that's fine. I just want to know when all the OTL are coming for schools, players that have been in similar situations, every sport, every athlete. If they want to clean up the NCAA, make change I don't think you tear down one house in the kingdom. You go for the king's castle.

But then again, the king pays their bills.

My comment "worse than PSU" was referring to the number of victims. I imagine we can agree on that.

(01-27-2018 04:32 PM)thxjoenovak Wrote:  

(01-27-2018 04:00 PM)randyfensfanclub1 Wrote:  

(01-27-2018 10:23 AM)NIU05 Wrote:  Be stunned if public lynch mob will fire Dantonio or Izzo. ESPNs article did.not mention any full coaching staff member assaulting anyone. It did mention Dantonio kicking players off the team. I seem to recall him doing something similar about 7,8 years ago about some players in s major fight.

If you want to go after someone go after Kelly at ND. The fiasco at CMU with the players involved in a murder or a team manager being blown off the video tower at practice and being killed. Now there's a guy who should be out of college athletics, not Dantonio or Izzo.

The power of the vigalante mob/knobs to be jury and judge always has to be controlled.

Pretty much agree.

I don't think these are really "cover-ups" rather than decisions to not act.

You want to start kicking every player out of school for accusations when the crime was looked into and even no charges filed, good luck. And then you want to blame the coaches when school admin, law enforcement do nothing?

It's a slippery slope because you act on one false allegation, that could lead to another and have a wide assortment of ramifications. If you want to start getting rid of players for every misdemeanor committed in school do we then look at there record before they enroll and reject them on that premise? I am sure there would be a number of players kicked off teams and plenty who would never have enrolled.

And as for someone saying this is "worse" that PSU. No, it's not. The coaches were the ones doing the molesting AND covering up some administration.

This ESPN story is obviously linked to Nassar. It seems they, many are out to indict the whole MSU community while playing it as a "culture" they created and accepted. The admin, the AD went down for it and that's fine. I just want to know when all the OTL are coming for schools, players that have been in similar situations, every sport, every athlete. If they want to clean up the NCAA, make change I don't think you tear down one house in the kingdom. You go for the king's castle.

But then again, the king pays their bills.

My comment "worse than PSU" was referring to the number of victims. I imagine we can agree on that.

I can agree. Kinda funny, I actually didn't even see your prior post, but did see others.

Monty might be tabbed to take over for Izzo after they burn that program to the ground.

(01-27-2018 11:13 PM)holybovine Wrote:  Monty might be tabbed to take over for Izzo after they burn that program to the ground.

And I might get tabbed by Mila Kunis to take over for Ashton Kutcher.

(01-27-2018 11:32 PM)thxjoenovak Wrote:  

(01-27-2018 11:13 PM)holybovine Wrote:  Monty might be tabbed to take over for Izzo after they burn that program to the ground.

And I might get tabbed by Mila Kunis to take over for Ashton Kutcher.

There’s a better chance of NIU going undefeated and claiming the National Championship.