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RE: XFL coming back
Since the original AFL, which eventually merged with the NFL, how many professional football leagues have started and flopped? I don't see the point or why owners would risk losing millions. I actually thought the Canadian Football League expanding to cities like Memphis, Shreveport, Baltimore (before they got the NFL) back was interesting idea that might work- but even that didn't pan out.
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If done properly and planned well, it can succeed. The original XFL had a chance, started hot, but then turned into a fiasco of stripper cheerleaders and a circus of a show. They changed the game enough to ruin the game, and the actual product of football, was awful.

If they would come in and work with the NFL, as an actual minor league for them, it could work. It would work and succeed just as minor league baseball, minor league hockey and now, even minor league soccer works. There is a place for minor league football, but you can't come in expecting and wanting to compete with the NFL, work with them, not against them.
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The USFL did quite well until Trump lost his mind because he couldn't get an NFL franchise. A spring league could succeed but Vince McMahon is not the answer.

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01-27-2018 10:14 PM
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Interesting strategies though...no politics allowed, Vince owns every team so he can absolutely set the rules, if you have a criminal record you're out. It appears he's going for a squeaky clean image to counter everything the NFL has done wrong.

IF he can stick to those ideals and if they schedule the season in the late spring/early summer when people start feeling that football itch it could work.

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(01-27-2018 10:14 PM)panama Wrote:  The USFL did quite well until Trump lost his mind because he couldn't get an NFL franchise. A spring league could succeed but Vince McMahon is not the answer.

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USFL was comically under-funded and players were literally racing to the bank to cash their checks. The first ones there got their money. The last ones there didn't because there wasn't enough in the account to pay them all.

Rick Neuheisel has told that story many times about when he played for the San Antonio Gunslingers.

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(01-27-2018 11:33 PM)APPdiesel Wrote:  Interesting strategies though...no politics allowed, Vince owns every team so he can absolutely set the rules, if you have a criminal record you're out. It appears he's going for a squeaky clean image to counter everything the NFL has done wrong.

IF he can stick to those ideals and if they schedule the season in the late spring/early summer when people start feeling that football itch it could work.


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Unfortunately he has already screwed that up by saying the league would start the weekend between the AFC/NFC championship games and the Super Bowl.

But I agree with you, start the league in April/May. I say start it the weekend after the draft.
01-28-2018 10:31 AM
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(01-27-2018 10:14 PM)panama Wrote:  The USFL did quite well until Trump lost his mind because he couldn't get an NFL franchise. A spring league could succeed but Vince McMahon is not the answer.

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And they had a handful of big names that played for that league.

XFL will never even achieve that.. NFL just has the bigger checkbook.. by a lot of 0's.
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(01-27-2018 11:33 PM)APPdiesel Wrote:  IF he can stick to those ideals and if they schedule the season in the late spring/early summer when people start feeling that football itch it could work.

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You know.. I believe we have reached a saturation point with football.. its practically a 10 month. As much as I love football.. it is nice to get a breather.
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(01-27-2018 11:33 PM)APPdiesel Wrote:  IF he can stick to those ideals and if they schedule the season in the late spring/early summer when people start feeling that football itch it could work.

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You know.. I believe we have reached a saturation point with football.. its practically a 10 month even. As much as I love football.. it is nice to get a breather.

The window was missed with the original XFL. We are now at a point of declining attendance, declining TV ratings and overall declining interest. A competing league will never survive. A proper minor league system, where you expect 5,000-10,000 people a game and salaries that match that can work. A place for guys only 2 years out of high school, JUCO guys, sophomores that have worn out there welcome at a 4 year school. Maybe that NFL backup QB that is looking to prove his ability in actual games. The RFL, Regional Football League, had a decent plan back 25 plus years ago. Mobile had a team, but the league wasn't funded properly and didn't complete the whole first season.
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(01-27-2018 11:33 PM)APPdiesel Wrote:  Interesting strategies though...no politics allowed, Vince owns every team so he can absolutely set the rules, if you have a criminal record you're out. It appears he's going for a squeaky clean image to counter everything the NFL has done wrong.

IF he can stick to those ideals and if they schedule the season in the late spring/early summer when people start feeling that football itch it could work.

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Minimally. Giants and Cowboys fans are not going to stop being Giants and Cowboys fans. The reality is this like other attempts will be a minor league at best and no attempt to counter the NFL directly has lasted more than 3 years in the TV Era. The New USFL has been trying to get off the ground since 2008. Their major barrier to entry is that they feel they need capitalization of $500M before they can start up. If Vince is doing this alone his capitalization will be a LOT less than that. So what does that mean for quality of players and coaches? Is this going to be a German football league level of talent and by extension attendance?

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