(01-21-2018 12:40 AM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(01-21-2018 12:20 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(01-20-2018 10:47 PM)tmoneyinmphs Wrote:  The refs tonight are responsible for his injury, imo. To make it worse, they showed they are incapable of calling the charge/block properly. They had been rewarding tulsa all night long with charge calls when they were blocking fouls, so tulsa was encouraged to do it all night long. In this play, the tulsa defender was still moving and moved under an offensive player in the air which is extremely dangerous and exactly why martin got hurt. If the refs had made the proper calls during the game, this probably wouldn't even happen because tulsa would be more wary of trying to take charges every time.

They blew the call both ways tonight so don't go getting pissed over the officiating. Lucky we didn't get a flagrant 1 right at half time.

If your boy Opie was still coaching here you wouldn’t make this post. You’re a hypocrite, big time.

I see you have studied Saul Alinsky very well and have his methods down pat. Accuse the other guy of being exactly what you actually are. Go troll elsewhere.

But you must get over your "Opie" obsession. He is no longer here and has nothing to do with what is going on at this time. Other than his recruit is the only thing that keeps this team from being completely non competitive.

The block/charge call is and has been a farce.

The idea that when a stationary defender is "bumped" by the offense, the defender falls exactly backwards while his feet remain stuck to the floor is 100% an indication the defender is intentionally faking the foul.

Davenport has been a master of the flop on defense and Martin has been incredible at the James Harden/Lebron "throw hands up in the air" when bumped on offense.

They work, but i hate both plays from a basketball viewing perspective.

(01-21-2018 08:14 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(01-21-2018 12:40 AM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(01-21-2018 12:20 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(01-20-2018 10:47 PM)tmoneyinmphs Wrote:  The refs tonight are responsible for his injury, imo. To make it worse, they showed they are incapable of calling the charge/block properly. They had been rewarding tulsa all night long with charge calls when they were blocking fouls, so tulsa was encouraged to do it all night long. In this play, the tulsa defender was still moving and moved under an offensive player in the air which is extremely dangerous and exactly why martin got hurt. If the refs had made the proper calls during the game, this probably wouldn't even happen because tulsa would be more wary of trying to take charges every time.

They blew the call both ways tonight so don't go getting pissed over the officiating. Lucky we didn't get a flagrant 1 right at half time.

If your boy Opie was still coaching here you wouldn’t make this post. You’re a hypocrite, big time.

I see you have studied Saul Alinsky very well and have his methods down pat. Accuse the other guy of being exactly what you actually are. Go troll elsewhere.

But you must get over your "Opie" obsession. He is no longer here and has nothing to do with what is going on at this time. Other than his recruit is the only thing that keeps this team from being completely non competitive.

You both would embarrass Alinsky.

(01-20-2018 10:30 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  Per Mark G Tweet:

“Tubby Smith said Jeremiah Martin has a hip pointer but trainers think it's "just a bruise."

Hopefully it is only a bruise. Using conventional treatments a hip pointer usually takes 2 to 4 weeks to completely heal. Do not even start treatment for 48 hours to allow all the bleeding to stop.

Sit in a tub of ice twice a day. I don't think I could do it.

This is irrelevant of Jeremiah's injury: ""80% of what refs call as charges --- are really BLOCKS, period". I recall Boeheim saying that on XM a couple of years ago when that ill-fated crackdown was starting. I agreed but thought the percentage was too low.

FWIW, ever noticed there's never a "Let em play" screamed at officials when a charge is called or "Ticky tack" as refs love selling that call to the crowd with the punch in the air.

(01-21-2018 07:51 AM)TG4 Wrote:  

(01-20-2018 10:31 PM)jamammy Wrote:  Looked like he bruised his hip.

Next game is a week from now.

I would assume no biggie.

He tried for the contact and went horizontal.

And he was up there.

Landed on his hands and his right hip.

Doubt there is a fracture though.

There is treatment for a hip pointer that would enable him to play but some guys aren’t real receptive to it. Right, tom82?

Many a Former Tiger football and basketball player of yesteryear played in the next game following a hip pointer injury thanks to that treatment by TDS!!!

(01-21-2018 11:01 AM)bluebacker Wrote:  Sit in a tub of ice twice a day. I don't think I could do it.

That’s not what I had in mind.

(01-21-2018 09:19 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  The block/charge call is and has been a farce.

The idea that when a stationary defender is "bumped" by the offense, the defender falls exactly backwards while his feet remain stuck to the floor is 100% an indication the defender is intentionally faking the foul.

Davenport has been a master of the flop on defense and Martin has been incredible at the James Harden/Lebron "throw hands up in the air" when bumped on offense.

They work, but i hate both plays from a basketball viewing perspective.

I hate the flops of davenport and rivers but worse was martin taunting the crowd yesterday. I just dont like that.

(01-21-2018 01:59 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  I hate the flops of davenport and rivers but worse was martin taunting the crowd yesterday. I just dont like that.

could be worse

(01-21-2018 01:59 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  I hate the flops of davenport and rivers but worse was martin taunting the crowd yesterday. I just dont like that.

I didn’t see that. When did that occur?
-and I’ll bet tubby doesn’t like that either.

(01-21-2018 02:20 PM)holyterror Wrote:  

(01-21-2018 01:59 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  I hate the flops of davenport and rivers but worse was martin taunting the crowd yesterday. I just dont like that.

I didn’t see that. When did that occur?
-and I’ll bet tubby doesn’t like that either.

He did it more than once. In the second half on a fast break Martin’s shot was called for goaltending and he turned to the crowd behind the goal and put his finger to his lips as if to say shhh.

Taunting (common in pros and college) would end quickly with implementation of a zero tolerance policy by coaches and refs.

(01-21-2018 02:20 PM)holyterror Wrote:  

(01-21-2018 01:59 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  I hate the flops of davenport and rivers but worse was martin taunting the crowd yesterday. I just dont like that.

I didn’t see that. When did that occur?
-and I’ll bet tubby doesn’t like that either.

Yea it was embarrassing. Martin went from overachiever to superstar showboat in a couple of weeks , my 80 year old father made that comment .

(01-21-2018 02:20 PM)holyterror Wrote:  

(01-21-2018 01:59 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  I hate the flops of davenport and rivers but worse was martin taunting the crowd yesterday. I just dont like that.

I didn’t see that. When did that occur?
-and I’ll bet tubby doesn’t like that either.

OBEDIENCE - Smith in complete control .

(01-21-2018 03:06 PM)Newton card Wrote:  

(01-21-2018 02:20 PM)holyterror Wrote:  

(01-21-2018 01:59 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  I hate the flops of davenport and rivers but worse was martin taunting the crowd yesterday. I just dont like that.

I didn’t see that. When did that occur?
-and I’ll bet tubby doesn’t like that either.

Yea it was embarrassing. Martin went from overachiever to superstar showboat in a couple of weeks , my 80 year old father made that comment .

Was especially bad since he was not even playing good. He made one basket and started taunting. I imagine Tubby will get that cleaned up. Martin is easy to root for considering he has far overachieved this year but if he continues that then he will be very easy to dislike.

Hopefully, he recovers quickly because this team needs him!

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(01-21-2018 03:34 PM)Tygrys Wrote:  

(01-21-2018 03:06 PM)Newton card Wrote:  

(01-21-2018 02:20 PM)holyterror Wrote:  

(01-21-2018 01:59 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  I hate the flops of davenport and rivers but worse was martin taunting the crowd yesterday. I just dont like that.

I didn’t see that. When did that occur?
-and I’ll bet tubby doesn’t like that either.

Yea it was embarrassing. Martin went from overachiever to superstar showboat in a couple of weeks , my 80 year old father made that comment .

Was especially bad since he was not even playing good. He made one basket and started taunting. I imagine Tubby will get that cleaned up. Martin is easy to root for considering he has far overachieved this year but if he continues that then he will be very easy to dislike.

Hopefully, he recovers quickly because this team needs him!

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This has been Martin all year long...

It could be seen as confidence or swagger but he has moments when he seems like he is saying he is the man and that he can turn on a switch when he needs to

Martin's team is on the floor.

Do we have any updates on the injury besides Tubby saying the team and him need rest?

""They all need some rest," Tubby Smith said. "I need some rest."

(01-20-2018 11:40 PM)hsvtiger Wrote:  

(01-20-2018 11:26 PM)UOFMGLENN Wrote:  

(01-20-2018 11:22 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  

(01-20-2018 11:15 PM)Nobody4Prez Wrote:  Refs were absolutely terrible

But very consistent. They were making pretty bad calls on both sides which made it even.

Unfortunately the bad call on Martin cost us an injury and any chance at winning.

It was a horrible call, but Martin wouldve been injured even if the right call had been made.

Haven’t finished reading the rest of the thread yet but as I’m reading I’m thinking the same thing . . No matter what the refs called that wouldn’t have changed what happened to Martin.