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I don't buy into regular season success as much anymore because it hurts too much when we lose early in the tournament or playoffs in the case of the Bengals. Sorry, I just can't do it to myself anymore.
 
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(01-21-2018 03:45 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  
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(01-20-2018 09:55 AM)BeerCat Wrote:  Mick needs to prove himself in March. That hasn't changed. No Kenpom numbers November through February are going to change that.

If all you care about is March, then what does it matter what happens in the regular season? If they win out but get bounced in the second round, the regular season success will be of no value. And if they go .500 the rest of the way but make the Elite 8, then so what if they blew the conference title. At this point, they are going to make the tournament, so why care at all about the regular season the rest of the way?

A great regular season run is a lot of fun, but no one will remember this team if they get bounced in the 2nd round of the tournament. I like our chances of going deep in the tournament, but I am not getting my hopes up because a lifetime of being a Cincinnati sports fan has burned me way too many times.

I don't know that I agree with this. My two favorite UC teams ever both lost in the second round. I remember those years incredibly fondly despite that. I doubt I'm alone.
 
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RE: Sunlight reminder for the Vitamin D Deficient
(01-21-2018 03:47 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  
(01-21-2018 03:45 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  
(01-21-2018 03:17 PM)levydl Wrote:  
(01-20-2018 09:55 AM)BeerCat Wrote:  Mick needs to prove himself in March. That hasn't changed. No Kenpom numbers November through February are going to change that.

If all you care about is March, then what does it matter what happens in the regular season? If they win out but get bounced in the second round, the regular season success will be of no value. And if they go .500 the rest of the way but make the Elite 8, then so what if they blew the conference title. At this point, they are going to make the tournament, so why care at all about the regular season the rest of the way?

A great regular season run is a lot of fun, but no one will remember this team if they get bounced in the 2nd round of the tournament. I like our chances of going deep in the tournament, but I am not getting my hopes up because a lifetime of being a Cincinnati sports fan has burned me way too many times.

I don't know that I agree with this. My two favorite UC teams ever both lost in the second round. I remember those years incredibly fondly despite that. I doubt I'm alone.
Heck the year we went to the NIT under AK was a really fun team.
 
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RE: Sunlight reminder for the Vitamin D Deficient
(01-21-2018 03:47 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  
(01-21-2018 03:45 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  
(01-21-2018 03:17 PM)levydl Wrote:  
(01-20-2018 09:55 AM)BeerCat Wrote:  Mick needs to prove himself in March. That hasn't changed. No Kenpom numbers November through February are going to change that.

If all you care about is March, then what does it matter what happens in the regular season? If they win out but get bounced in the second round, the regular season success will be of no value. And if they go .500 the rest of the way but make the Elite 8, then so what if they blew the conference title. At this point, they are going to make the tournament, so why care at all about the regular season the rest of the way?

A great regular season run is a lot of fun, but no one will remember this team if they get bounced in the 2nd round of the tournament. I like our chances of going deep in the tournament, but I am not getting my hopes up because a lifetime of being a Cincinnati sports fan has burned me way too many times.

I don't know that I agree with this. My two favorite UC teams ever both lost in the second round. I remember those years incredibly fondly despite that. I doubt I'm alone.

The 99-2000 team is a different animal. They were clearly the best team in the country with the best player in the country, who was lost to a heart-breaking injury right before the tournament. This team is really good, but even if we stay in the top ten the rest of the year, it won't be nearly as memorable as the Kenyon Martin team if we lose early in the tournament.
 
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Additionally, I know us diehard fans will remember every season regardless of what happens. What I mean is that nationally, no one will remember this team if it loses early in the tournament. It won't do a thing to change our perception with the national media or recruits if we lose in the 2nd round. Some fans don't care about that kind of stuff, and that's fine, but I would like to see our program start getting the respect it deserves.
 
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(01-21-2018 04:05 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  Additionally, I know us diehard fans will remember every season regardless of what happens. What I mean is that nationally, no one will remember this team if it loses early in the tournament. It won't do a thing to change our perception with the national media or recruits if we lose in the 2nd round. Some fans don't care about that kind of stuff, and that's fine, but I would like to see our program start getting the respect it deserves.

Nationally few remember who was in the final four 5 years ago so I don't know that what you do in the tournament is necessarily the standard for being remember. I'd say many remember the Kenyon Martin UC team nationally, despite the tournament. They still come up often on best teams to not win a title.
 
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(01-21-2018 04:05 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  Additionally, I know us diehard fans will remember every season regardless of what happens. What I mean is that nationally, no one will remember this team if it loses early in the tournament. It won't do a thing to change our perception with the national media or recruits if we lose in the 2nd round. Some fans don't care about that kind of stuff, and that's fine, but I would like to see our program start getting the respect it deserves.

For sure. But I just hate how many UC fans respond to regular season success by saying wake me in March. I do understand it: they think UC will probably get bounced pretty early, and they're justifiably sick of it, and no regular season accomplishments will move the needle for them. Now, they're only blase about UC's regular season wins. Any regular season loss is a sign that UC won't go far in March and that Cronin isn't very good and all the rest. It's a huge negative bias and it can make this message board unbearable. Thankfully, I think this year's team is legit and has a really good shot to win a few games in the tourney and start turning this fanbase around.
 
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Do you see that dark place over there Simba? It's Bearcat Banter, you should never go there.
 
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I think we should have a Les Miserables Section in the new arena. Everyone in it will be required to wear a Statler and Waldorf mask.

The fact that there is a group of UC fans who apparently are perpetually unhappy about something this year is an interesting case study. Well some of them make sense I guess since if I recall they were ones who became KState fans for 10 short months a decade ago.
 
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This AAC conference makes it tough to be Suzie Sunshine. Until we play Wichita State, there is no game that would be a good win. There are only potential bad losses. So, if we win, ho-hum. But if we lose (or appear on the verge of a possible loss), disaster has struck.

Plus, we only had one-two chances for good wins on the schedule so far. And we know what happened in those games.
 
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