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ESPN :NCAA tournament selection committee testing new tool
yet somehow with all metrics in the top 10 besides the RPI , will still result in a 6 seed for UC .

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http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketb...ion-system

NCAA tournament selection committee testing new tool that could eventually replace RPI

The coming months could be a test run for a new tool that eventually replaces the RPI in the NCAA tournament selection committee's evaluation of potential at-large teams.

RPI is the traditional and polarizing barometer used in the analysis process leading into Selection Sunday. For the first time, committee members will see rankings from ESPN's BPI and Strength of Record, KPI, Jeff Sagarin Ratings and KenPom.com next to the RPI on the official team sheets used to assess each program.

They'll also see the average score of the six advanced metrics for each team, which could be repackaged as a new, official tool that replaces the RPI next season, said David Worlock, media coordinator for the NCAA tournament.

He said the catalyst for the change was a request from the National Association of Basketball Coaches to include advanced metrics in the evaluation process.
Last month, the NCAA announced a new system that emphasizes the value of road and neutral-site games. Kim Klement/USA TODAY Sports

"The composite metric replacing the RPI is a possibility and we are looking at other options too," Worlock told ESPN.com on Thursday. "Either way, the other metrics that have been introduced to the team sheets will still be used as a resource moving forward."

Worlock said committee members have always had access to the five additional advanced metrics, with each member having the power to use those tools at their discretion.

"Again, this isn't anything new that's being provided to the committee," Worlock said. "It's just being presented in a different, more convenient and more efficient format. As with any resource that the committee has at its disposal, a committee member can use it as they see fit."

But the RPI, long criticized by modern analysts as an outdated measuring stick because it fails to consider margin of victory or location, had been the only official metric endorsed by the NCAA to date.


That's why this move matters.

The tools all vary in how they assess a team. The RPI, KPI and ESPN's Strength of Record aim to capture the quality of a team based on its current résumé. And ESPN's BPI, Sagarin and KenPom.com ratings attempt to predict how a team will perform in the future.

Last month, the NCAA announced a new system that emphasizes the value of road and neutral-site games.

This season, as a part of a new four-tier system, wins against teams ranked 1-30 at home, 1-50 on a neutral court and 1-75 on the road will all qualify as quality wins and possess the same value. In past years, only top-50 wins in the RPI -- which does not consider location -- earned that billing.

The new emphasis on location, for wins and losses, and the addition of the advanced metrics to the official team sheets signal a change in the committee's philosophy. The "eye test" seems like an ancient concept now with the changes this season and the embracing of modern tools.



 
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I see the letters ESPN in there WAY too many times.
 
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The article doesn't include the ESPN go to measurement "The Eye Test".*


** Translation: Protected Five Conferences, plus some Big East
 
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(01-19-2018 02:08 PM)JunctaJuvant Wrote:  I see the letters ESPN in there WAY too many times.

Yep. It's easy for many folks to forget that ESPN is not synonymous with NCAA, since ESPN is the one pulling all the strings nowadays. 07-coffee3
 
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(01-19-2018 02:15 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  The article doesn't include the ESPN go to measurement "The Eye Test".*


** Translation: Protected Five Conferences, plus some Big East

Not Big East. They signed with Fox.
 
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ESPN owns none of the men's tourney. And the NCAA knows that the Cinderella upsets are the biggest draw to the tourney.
 
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I think the title is wrong. It should be "NCAA says that ESPN is a Tool"
 
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Where UC stands today in each category: RPI 24, BPI 6, ESPN SOR 14, Sagarin 9, Kenpom 6 and KPI not listed yet.

Looks a lot higher than a 6th seed.
 
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Never too early for paranoia about seeding to set in.
 
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F@ck ESPN. Their agenda is to have click bait on the Men's NCCA BB site..Duke this, Duke that, Nc here and everywhere
a UK. Every time I go to the UC "link" it gives info on other teams before the UC, or just a one liner.
 
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This thread is so negative for no reason whatsoever.
 
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(01-19-2018 09:17 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  This thread is so negative for no reason whatsoever.
Agreed. I don't get it... ESPN doesn't even have the rights for they tourney.
 
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(01-19-2018 04:58 PM)Recluse1 Wrote:  Never too early for paranoia about seeding to set in.

yup

You know its at its sweet spot when some people in here start saying things like:
-XU had somebody in the selection room and they submarined us
-OSU had somebody in the selection room and they submarined us
-the team we draw, despite being a bad seed is really a top 5 team in disguise
-the team we draw is the worst match up we could have had in the entire field (on purpose)
 
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