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RE: Can the refs make it more obvious than 20 more free throws
(01-19-2018 02:37 PM)Blazer85 Wrote:  
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(01-19-2018 02:19 PM)Blazer85 Wrote:  If you think this game was called fairly/evenly, I hope it’s just as fair/even on the return trip to Birmingham. Maybe a few “incidental” elbows will come flying from UAB on their drives to the basket this time.

And to the La Tech fan pointing at the foul difference in that game, look at your 3pt shot attempts. That’s the difference. You take a lot of shots from outside you’re not going to get fouled very often.

So there are excuses....

just not when it happens to UAB?

29% of UAB's shots came from 3pt last night
31% of Techs shots came from 3pt line in that game

Not excuses. Facts. And to equate those games is disingenuous.

La Techs large number of 3s was just a part of the reason for the difference in FTs.

There were 15 fouls on UAB to 26 on La Tech. The reason for the disparity in number of FTs is a result of how many of those fouls were shooting fouls vs hand check fouls.

Again...excuses

Tech shot 24 3s in a game that went into OT
UAB shot 19 3s in the game last night

Just admit...Tech got hosed.

Here let me be the Tech fan after that game, channeling a few UAB fans from last night.

******* no good ******** cheating SOB and if you cant see that you are a ******* cheating sob lying piece of **** and dumber than your mother. Cheating sack of **** ********

**** happens and sometimes you get the fouls called. Sometimes you don't.

But let me make a excuse...70% of UAB's shots inside in the 2nd half were non contested shots from poor defense. Hell you might as well been in the lay up line you probably won;t have be any more open
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(01-19-2018 02:27 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  
(01-19-2018 02:19 PM)Blazer85 Wrote:  If you think this game was called fairly/evenly, I hope it’s just as fair/even on the return trip to Birmingham. Maybe a few “incidental” elbows will come flying from UAB on their drives to the basket this time.

And to the La Tech fan pointing at the foul difference in that game, look at your 3pt shot attempts. That’s the difference. You take a lot of shots from outside you’re not going to get fouled very often.

So there are excuses....

just not when it happens to UAB?

29% of UAB's shots came from 3pt last night
31% of Techs shots came from 3pt line in that game

C’mon Guns. You know that 2% difference is probably huge.

I rewatched the game this morning. The elbow could have gone either way. It truly was incidental. Darius didn’t give a forearm shiver. It was a little push to clear space from a guy that was cheating up 38 feet from the basket. As Darius used it Zack closed into him. It got him on the lip. He overacted for sure trying to sell it as more than it was. Happens all the time. Refs determined incidental and ‘a basketball play’ end of story.

What really killed UAB was the foul on Ohmer’s 3 point attempt which was absolutely a foul and one of the coaching staff acting like an idiot. You’re up 2 with 3:47 to go. At worst you’re down 1 after 3 free throws. And the head coach lets one of his staff get a T. That’s on Ehsan for not having his crew under control. That guy would have walked back to Birmingham if I was Ehsan.

Another very big factor is Cokley was gassed down the stretch and JJ was put on him instead of Coleby. Coleby had been letting Cokley get position way too low on the blocks. JJ forced him to receive it further out. Cokley tried to bump JJ down low and couldn’t push him. He then settled for turnaround jumpers from about 8 feet. JJ did a much better job on Cokley down the stretch than Dwight had been doing. It also allowed Coleby to play help dee and block some key shots.

Putting Tayveon and then Josh on Bryant also stifled him after his big run. Which still let Norton hit some big shots. As I said early. A great college ball game by two very good teams.
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At this point it’s irrelevant. Game is over and quite frankly means very little seeing as how it is extremely unlikely that CUSA gets an at large bid. I wouldn’t expect a WKU fan to realize the gift they received. As I said, I hope it’s just as “fair” on the return game here.
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(01-19-2018 03:03 PM)Blazer85 Wrote:  At this point it’s irrelevant. Game is over and quite frankly means very little seeing as how it is extremely unlikely that CUSA gets an at large bid. I wouldn’t expect a WKU fan to realize the gift they received. As I said, I hope it’s just as “fair” on the return game here.


If blazer fans want to be mad at someone, be mad at your coaching staff. I sat 2 rows behind your bench last night and I witnessed the single most offensive coaching staff towards officials I’ve seen in Diddle in some time. The first assistant on the bench used “MF” and “BS” more times than I can count, and if I can hear those words with his back to me, there’s no telling what the refs heard on the court. This assistant and your head coach were warned on SEVERAL occasions throughout the game about their language and behavior. One more time so we are all clear: they were WARNED several times. Your coach failed to control his staff, and a technical was assessed when the assistant crossed the line. Your coaches dug themselves a massive hole and got on the officials bad side from the opening tip. Want to be mad at someone? Blame your immature and unprofessional coaching staff. You have a really, really good basketball team who probably deserved to win that game. Unfortunately, your leadership set them up for complete failure in regards to the officials.
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RE: Can the refs make it more obvious than 20 more free throws
(01-19-2018 03:18 PM)Shadow_Son Wrote:  
(01-19-2018 03:03 PM)Blazer85 Wrote:  At this point it’s irrelevant. Game is over and quite frankly means very little seeing as how it is extremely unlikely that CUSA gets an at large bid. I wouldn’t expect a WKU fan to realize the gift they received. As I said, I hope it’s just as “fair” on the return game here.


If blazer fans want to be mad at someone, be mad at your coaching staff. I sat 2 rows behind your bench last night and I witnessed the single most offensive coaching staff towards officials I’ve seen in Diddle in some time. The first assistant on the bench used “MF” and “BS” more times than I can count, and if I can hear those words with his back to me, there’s no telling what the refs heard on the court. This assistant and your head coach were warned on SEVERAL occasions throughout the game about their language and behavior. One more time so we are all clear: they were WARNED several times. Your coach failed to control his staff, and a technical was assessed when the assistant crossed the line. Your coaches dug themselves a massive hole and got on the officials bad side from the opening tip. Want to be mad at someone? Blame your immature and unprofessional coaching staff. You have a really, really good basketball team who probably deserved to win that game. Unfortunately, your leadership set them up for complete failure in regards to the officials.

That may well be true. Having said that, we’ve lost more than a few games this year and last and it truly is an extreme rarity for our staff to be assessed a technical. So rare that in fact I can’t remember the last time or how many times it has happened. If they were complaining and riding the refs, there’s probably good reason for it. Having seen the whole game and the officiating going on, it’s not shocking they were mad. Coaches have to fight for their team and I have no doubt that Stansburry of all people would be just as irate if the roles were reversed.
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RE: Can the refs make it more obvious than 20 more free throws
(01-19-2018 03:18 PM)Shadow_Son Wrote:  
(01-19-2018 03:03 PM)Blazer85 Wrote:  At this point it’s irrelevant. Game is over and quite frankly means very little seeing as how it is extremely unlikely that CUSA gets an at large bid. I wouldn’t expect a WKU fan to realize the gift they received. As I said, I hope it’s just as “fair” on the return game here.


If blazer fans want to be mad at someone, be mad at your coaching staff. I sat 2 rows behind your bench last night and I witnessed the single most offensive coaching staff towards officials I’ve seen in Diddle in some time. The first assistant on the bench used “MF” and “BS” more times than I can count, and if I can hear those words with his back to me, there’s no telling what the refs heard on the court. This assistant and your head coach were warned on SEVERAL occasions throughout the game about their language and behavior. One more time so we are all clear: they were WARNED several times. Your coach failed to control his staff, and a technical was assessed when the assistant crossed the line. Your coaches dug themselves a massive hole and got on the officials bad side from the opening tip. Want to be mad at someone? Blame your immature and unprofessional coaching staff. You have a really, really good basketball team who probably deserved to win that game. Unfortunately, your leadership set them up for complete failure in regards to the officials.

If what you say is true, I blame the officials for getting pissed at our coaching staff and deciding to punish them by refusing to call fouls on Western and refusing to allow UAB go to the free throw line. Officials are supposed to be above the fray and be able to call a game fairly no matter how mad they are at the coaches. Coaches are supposed to fight for their team. Even after the technicals, the refs still refused to call several calls that would favor UAB. They still had a chip on their shoulder.

A lot of Blazer fans are pissed at WKU and are talking about a revenge game later in the season. Western wasn't at fault here. They simply benefited. Unless we have the same officiating crew in the next game between the two teams, there is no fault with WKU and the only revenge involved making up for the loss.
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RE: Can the refs make it more obvious than 20 more free throws
How about this for you UAB fans crying....

at least one of you DVR this game. Go back and pick out 3 calls that were clear fouls tat were not called. Do the same for fouls called on UAB that were not fouls. Then post that on youtube for us to see. Just 3......

shouldn't be hard

My seats are 7 rows behind the vising teams bench and that coaching staff was almost t'ed up two other times. Once at the half the ref put his whistle in his mouth ready to blow it. He gave one of the UAB staff a chance to walk off. Another person on the UAB staff pulled him by his arm towards the locker room. Once on a out of bounds play when the ref walked over and told him (at the far end of the bench) not one more word

For the record...I have no problem when they miss a call on my team. I actually like it and don't give a **** if the other team or fans get pissed. I think we all are like that
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(01-19-2018 08:28 AM)CincyDave Wrote:  I heard the refs left Diddle last night in a brand new Corvette with a cooler full of Chaney's Ice Cream, a growler from White Squirrel, a pizza from Mancino's and a Bosnian Cookbook.

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(01-19-2018 03:03 PM)Blazer85 Wrote:  At this point it’s irrelevant. Game is over and quite frankly means very little seeing as how it is extremely unlikely that CUSA gets an at large bid. I wouldn’t expect a WKU fan to realize the gift they received. As I said, I hope it’s just as “fair” on the return game here.

Thank you so much for the gift of calling us idiot homers, thank you card on its way
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(01-19-2018 04:05 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  How about this for you UAB fans crying....

at least one of you DVR this game. Go back and pick out 3 calls that were clear fouls tat were not called. Do the same for fouls called on UAB that were not fouls. Then post that on youtube for us to see. Just 3......

shouldn't be hard

My seats are 7 rows behind the vising teams bench and that coaching staff was almost t'ed up two other times. Once at the half the ref put his whistle in his mouth ready to blow it. He gave one of the UAB staff a chance to walk off. Another person on the UAB staff pulled him by his arm towards the locker room. Once on a out of bounds play when the ref walked over and told him (at the far end of the bench) not one more word

For the record...I have no problem when they miss a call on my team. I actually like it and don't give a **** if the other team or fans get pissed. I think we all are like that

I just rewatched the game, I was expecting to see more than i did, UAB could have been called for 3-4 more than they did and there was only a couple that was questioned IMO. The biggest difference was WKU played off the UAB guys while UAB bodied up WKU all night and took way to many chances. I can say 100% that the refs DID NOT cost UAB that game. It was a great and fun game , but I truly believe after rewatching that the better team won.
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(01-19-2018 09:21 AM)Saint Greg Wrote:  
(01-18-2018 10:55 PM)Blazer88 Wrote:  What a joke


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Funny you mention that game.

The numbers are much more one sided on last nights game. Not even close.

Three fold foul disparity and 10 fold free throw disparity. How some idiots here think that's fair is beyond me.

La tech may have some legit gripes about that game, but this was a lot worse.
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(01-19-2018 06:23 PM)wkuhilltopperfan Wrote:  
(01-19-2018 04:05 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  How about this for you UAB fans crying....

at least one of you DVR this game. Go back and pick out 3 calls that were clear fouls tat were not called. Do the same for fouls called on UAB that were not fouls. Then post that on youtube for us to see. Just 3......

shouldn't be hard

My seats are 7 rows behind the vising teams bench and that coaching staff was almost t'ed up two other times. Once at the half the ref put his whistle in his mouth ready to blow it. He gave one of the UAB staff a chance to walk off. Another person on the UAB staff pulled him by his arm towards the locker room. Once on a out of bounds play when the ref walked over and told him (at the far end of the bench) not one more word

For the record...I have no problem when they miss a call on my team. I actually like it and don't give a **** if the other team or fans get pissed. I think we all are like that

I just rewatched the game, I was expecting to see more than i did, UAB could have been called for 3-4 more than they did and there was only a couple that was questioned IMO. The biggest difference was WKU played off the UAB guys while UAB bodied up WKU all night and took way to many chances. I can say 100% that the refs DID NOT cost UAB that game. It was a great and fun game , but I truly believe after rewatching that the better team won.

Uab was the better team last night. We still almost won with a 3 fold foul discrepancy and a 10 fold free throw discrepancy. You were given a major advantage in this game and still had to squeak it out.

The three point foul was ridiculous. The guy flopped like crazy and had already released the ball a long time after there was contact. I absolutely hate that foul in the NBA and in college. It's ridiculous what's called a foul on a three now. The whistle was also very late.
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(01-19-2018 06:23 PM)wkuhilltopperfan Wrote:  
(01-19-2018 04:05 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  How about this for you UAB fans crying....

at least one of you DVR this game. Go back and pick out 3 calls that were clear fouls tat were not called. Do the same for fouls called on UAB that were not fouls. Then post that on youtube for us to see. Just 3......

shouldn't be hard

My seats are 7 rows behind the vising teams bench and that coaching staff was almost t'ed up two other times. Once at the half the ref put his whistle in his mouth ready to blow it. He gave one of the UAB staff a chance to walk off. Another person on the UAB staff pulled him by his arm towards the locker room. Once on a out of bounds play when the ref walked over and told him (at the far end of the bench) not one more word

For the record...I have no problem when they miss a call on my team. I actually like it and don't give a **** if the other team or fans get pissed. I think we all are like that

I just rewatched the game, I was expecting to see more than i did, UAB could have been called for 3-4 more than they did and there was only a couple that was questioned IMO. The biggest difference was WKU played off the UAB guys while UAB bodied up WKU all night and took way to many chances. I can say 100% that the refs DID NOT cost UAB that game. It was a great and fun game , but I truly believe after rewatching that the better team won.

Let me get this straight: You rewatched the game and the only missed calls you saw - in the ENTIRE game - was 3 or 4 calls that would have gone against UAB. There wasn't a single call they missed that would have gone against Western Kentucky? Thanks for the unbiased report.
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Stupid ass homers.

Swear to god I'd have some objectivity if I were on the other side.

The la tech folks probably do have some legit gripes about that game 3 years ago.
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(01-19-2018 06:57 PM)The Answer UAB Wrote:  
(01-19-2018 09:21 AM)Saint Greg Wrote:  
(01-18-2018 10:55 PM)Blazer88 Wrote:  What a joke


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Funny you mention that game.

The numbers are much more one sided on last nights game. Not even close.

Three fold foul disparity and 10 fold free throw disparity. How some idiots here think that's fair is beyond me.

La tech may have some legit gripes about that game, but this was a lot worse.


20 more free throws is what this thread is about. You had 25 more free throws in our game. And I’m not even talking about the blatantly obvious travel that wasn’t wasn’t called.
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(01-19-2018 06:57 PM)The Answer UAB Wrote:  
(01-19-2018 09:21 AM)Saint Greg Wrote:  
(01-18-2018 10:55 PM)Blazer88 Wrote:  What a joke


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Funny you mention that game.

The numbers are much more one sided on last nights game. Not even close.

Three fold foul disparity and 10 fold free throw disparity. How some idiots here think that's fair is beyond me.

La tech may have some legit gripes about that game, but this was a lot worse.
26 vs 25 foul shots more and 15-11 fouls more how is that much more one sided?
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What's sad is the guy that was yelling at the refs isn't even an assistant coach he is the head coaches secretary.
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(01-19-2018 07:11 PM)Franko Wrote:  
(01-19-2018 06:57 PM)The Answer UAB Wrote:  
(01-19-2018 09:21 AM)Saint Greg Wrote:  
(01-18-2018 10:55 PM)Blazer88 Wrote:  What a joke


Funny you should mention that.

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Funny you mention that game.

The numbers are much more one sided on last nights game. Not even close.

Three fold foul disparity and 10 fold free throw disparity. How some idiots here think that's fair is beyond me.

La tech may have some legit gripes about that game, but this was a lot worse.
26 vs 25 foul shots more and 15-11 fouls more how is that much more one sided?

You have to excuse this UAB fan he's too hurt to see clear.

BTW did you notice points in the paint Tech 46 UAB 30. So for all the 3 pt shots Tech took .....they drove the ball or passed the ball inside way more often than UAB

I love seeing fans cry like UAB guy...it's like the big bully took their candy away from them and they have no way to get it back. Other than crying to their mothers. 03-lmfao I enjoy it when Western is in the role of big bad bully

The point they are missing...Western played very little defense for 14 minutes in that 2nd half. Just think what the score could have been if Western had played defense.

Just win!
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We could've won if the officiating was fair, idiot

For all your 10 star players and your cheating ass coach, your team really isn't that impressive
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(01-19-2018 07:09 PM)The Answer UAB Wrote:  Stupid ass homers.

Swear to god I'd have some objectivity if I were on the other side.

The la tech folks probably do have some legit gripes about that game 3 years ago.

Rewatch the game, both teams played completely different styles. Some of the fouls had UAB players leaving their feet basically landing on WKU players, while WKU played off the ball defnese never bodying up the UAB players, most all the fouls against UAB was while WKU was in the act of shooting which is why we shot so many. I truly expected to see more that I did on the replay. This isn’t my first time watching BB and I paused and rewound every time I saw what I thought should or should not have been a foul trying to find a reason back everybody’s claim.
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