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RE: Official Game Thread: @ Furman (W 62-61)
An important continuing story for the Bucs is their improvement in 3 point shooting in conference.

Out of Conference the Bucs were a worst in Socon .313 with 7.1 makes per game. In Conference, the Bucs are .441 (second best to Wofford) with 8.2 makes per game.

Desonta and Devontavius have notched up their shooting:
Desonta from .321 (17-53) to .348 (8-23)
Payne from .342 (25-73) to .379 (11-29)

But the big improvement has been from guys that were really struggling:
McCloud from .130 (3-23) to .500 (8-16)
Burrell from .136 (3-22) to .600 (6-10)
J. Long from .148 (4-27) to .500 (5-10)
Hodges from .250 (1-5) to .500 (3-6)

Hope this trend continues.
01-19-2018 10:50 AM
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RE: Official Game Thread: @ Furman (W 62-61)
(01-19-2018 08:29 AM)Wadood Abides Wrote:  Points in basketball aren't like runs in baseball. You scheme the game and play it differently depending upon the score. Unless it is last few seconds of the game, a technical is never as huge as people make it out to be. So what, a point, or two, and possession. In the scheme of a game with hundreds of judgment calls, tipped passes, 50:50 balls etc, a well-placed technical can only help. The refs may change behavior and your own team may get a motivation that someone is looking out for them. Maybe a coach technical saves a player emotional technical, which hurts little more.

It isn't like we lose by one then it was that free throw. We would have played the last two-three minutes differently.

Very well said. And *almost* completely true. We can't forget the Swader call that cost us an NCAA spot. And seems like I remember a long-ago bartow T that cost us a big run we were having. The other team got 4 points out of it, and we ended up losing by 2(?) I think. But my memory is very foggy on that. It was probably 7-10 years ago. Like the Swader call, is was late in the game, although not nearly as late as the Swader one was.
01-19-2018 11:51 AM
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RE: Official Game Thread: @ Furman (W 62-61)
(01-19-2018 10:50 AM)swvabucsfan Wrote:  An important continuing story for the Bucs is their improvement in 3 point shooting in conference.

Out of Conference the Bucs were a worst in Socon .313 with 7.1 makes per game. In Conference, the Bucs are .441 (second best to Wofford) with 8.2 makes per game.

Desonta and Devontavius have notched up their shooting:
Desonta from .321 (17-53) to .348 (8-23)
Payne from .342 (25-73) to .379 (11-29)

But the big improvement has been from guys that were really struggling:
McCloud from .130 (3-23) to .500 (8-16)
Burrell from .136 (3-22) to .600 (6-10)
J. Long from .148 (4-27) to .500 (5-10)
Hodges from .250 (1-5) to .500 (3-6)

Hope this trend continues.

I keep saying on the podcast that I think the Bucs were better at shooting 3's than they showed in non-conference, but I keep thinking at some point it's going to even out. In other words not as bad as they were then and not as good as they are now. But maybe I'm wrong about just the second part of that statement.
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RE: Official Game Thread: @ Furman (W 62-61)
(01-19-2018 11:55 AM)dashspartan Wrote:  
(01-19-2018 10:50 AM)swvabucsfan Wrote:  An important continuing story for the Bucs is their improvement in 3 point shooting in conference.

Out of Conference the Bucs were a worst in Socon .313 with 7.1 makes per game. In Conference, the Bucs are .441 (second best to Wofford) with 8.2 makes per game.

Desonta and Devontavius have notched up their shooting:
Desonta from .321 (17-53) to .348 (8-23)
Payne from .342 (25-73) to .379 (11-29)

But the big improvement has been from guys that were really struggling:
McCloud from .130 (3-23) to .500 (8-16)
Burrell from .136 (3-22) to .600 (6-10)
J. Long from .148 (4-27) to .500 (5-10)
Hodges from .250 (1-5) to .500 (3-6)

Hope this trend continues.

I keep saying on the podcast that I think the Bucs were better at shooting 3's than they showed in non-conference, but I keep thinking at some point it's going to even out. In other words not as bad as they were then and not as good as they are now. But maybe I'm wrong about just the second part of that statement.

Although I'm not hep to your podcast, before you posted I was considering doing so, with an observation that at some point - maybe sooner rather than later - there will be a "reversion to the mean". I 'mean' (sorry).........those last 4 guys swvabucsfan lists simply *can't* keep shooting 50% from 3.............can they? (With the possible exception of Burrell, who was over 40% most of last year.) Peter Jurkin is also shooting 50% from 3, but that's overall; not gonna take time to break it apart. Probably not a two-tier scenario for him.
01-19-2018 12:20 PM
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RE: Official Game Thread: @ Furman (W 62-61)
As another interesting data point, ETSU has been led in game scoring by *6* different players this year - 5 of them at least twice. I wonder how many other teams in the country could match that? I'm sure there are some, but likely few.
01-19-2018 12:25 PM
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RE: Official Game Thread: @ Furman (W 62-61)
Reversion to the mean, like the law of gravity, usually kicks in at some point. Particularly with something as inherently irregular as shooting. But it is also possible for there to be a new 'center of gravity' around a genuinely improved level of performance.

If the Bucs can keep it, say, .375 or higher - not unrealistic for the guys we put out there - they'll be fine. The key to this team has always been defense. With effort and focus there's no reason they shouldn't keep their conference lead in FG% defense (currently .368 in conference) and 3 pt% defense (currently .286 in conference) together with a good turnover margin (unfortunately currently lagging at +1.00). Keep the defense strong and the 3 points reasonable and ETSU should be fine.
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RE: Official Game Thread: @ Furman (W 62-61)
This game along with the UNCG game where the two early conference games I've had the biggest concern about. I'm pleased to see that despite any difficulties that have come up, our team has managed to overcome, win, and gain an impressive early lead in the conference standings. A lot of basketball left to play of course, but it's good to see them getting the wins early and often as opposed to trying to rebound near the end of the season and/or being reliant on the outcome of games between other teams to determine our fate going into the conference tournament and beyond.
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RE: Official Game Thread: @ Furman (W 62-61)
(01-19-2018 12:25 PM)posterformerlyknownasthedoctor Wrote:  As another interesting data point, ETSU has been led in game scoring by *6* different players this year - 5 of them at least twice. I wonder how many other teams in the country could match that? I'm sure there are some, but likely few.

LOL. Did you all see Forbes quoting me on the tv news tonight. He said: "Somebody said we've had 6 different players lead us in scoring this year." Obviously he didn't want to give his source. Funny. Rimshot
01-21-2018 03:44 AM
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