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Poll - What party do you expect to vote for in 2020?
As the craziness keeps getting crazy. With the left leaning media taunting the right leaning media, and vice versa. With "s__thole" and "a__holes" making the broadcast evening news, where are the censors when we need them? Let's put all aside and simply ask, what party do you expect to vote for in 2020?

This is a 60 day poll.
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RE: Poll - What party do you expect to vote for in 2020?
On a national level I will vote for the Republicans but locally and statewide I will probably stick with my trend of Democrats.
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Haven't voted for anyone but libertarians in quite a while, don't see anybody out there likely to make me change my mind this time. I vote on issues, not personalities, and while not every one of my issue positions aligns with libertarians, more do than anywhere else. In the most republican county in the US, deep in the heart of Texas, I doubt my vote will decide any elections. So I think registering a protest vote is the best use of my vote.
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If I still lived in Florida I'd maaaaaybe consider voting for Trump if the next two and a half years went perfectly and he was facing someone like Warren, but it'd still be an iffy proposition. Now that I'm in Illinois I have no qualms about voting L for POTUS even if a relative buffoon like Johnson is nominated, the only Republican I can see myself voting for in the future would be Rand but one would think he wouldn't even try for POTUS until 2024. Locally I'll probably lean towards the GOP, but more often than not it'll be write-in candidates since I live in the 5th bluest district in the nation (perfect counter-example to Owl...) and I doubt they run many Republicans around here.
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(01-12-2018 06:17 PM)Love and Honor Wrote:  If I still lived in Florida I'd maaaaaybe consider voting for Trump if the next two and a half years went perfectly and he was facing someone like Warren, but it'd still be an iffy proposition. Now that I'm in Illinois I have no qualms about voting L for POTUS even if a relative buffoon like Johnson is nominated, the only Republican I can see myself voting for in the future would be Rand but one would think he wouldn't even try for POTUS until 2024. Locally I'll probably lean towards the GOP, but more often than not it'll be write-in candidates since I live in the 5th bluest district in the nation (perfect counter-example to Owl...) and I doubt they run many Republicans around here.

We usually see more libertarians than democrats in local races around here.

The country races could be interesting this time around. There are all sorts of unconfirmed rumors about various alleged improprieties on the part of incumbents (none of which is backed by any hard evidence, as far as I know), we had a road bond election that was very unpopular, and the SJRA (led by several of the county judge's good buddies) made a complete hash of Hurricane Harvey. So there's room for some changes. I doubt we'll elect any democrats, but there are republican challengers to the incumbents. And who knows, we might just elect a libertarian or two.
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With two counties in northern Virginia virtually controlling the state, my vote won't matter in 2020.

Thus, unless the Libertarian candidate is a total whack job (and the pothead Johnson did not reach this disqualifying threshold), I will save my political soul and once again vote third party.
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RE: Poll - What party do you expect to vote for in 2020?
(01-12-2018 06:17 PM)Love and Honor Wrote:  If I still lived in Florida I'd maaaaaybe consider voting for Trump if the next two and a half years went perfectly and he was facing someone like Warren, but it'd still be an iffy proposition. Now that I'm in Illinois I have no qualms about voting L for POTUS even if a relative buffoon like Johnson is nominated, the only Republican I can see myself voting for in the future would be Rand but one would think he wouldn't even try for POTUS until 2024. Locally I'll probably lean towards the GOP, but more often than not it'll be write-in candidates since I live in the 5th bluest district in the nation (perfect counter-example to Owl...) and I doubt they run many Republicans around here.
I'm intrigued why one's vote would be determined geography. Please elaborate. And I am a Florida resident.
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(01-12-2018 06:28 PM)NewTimes Wrote:  
(01-12-2018 06:17 PM)Love and Honor Wrote:  If I still lived in Florida I'd maaaaaybe consider voting for Trump if the next two and a half years went perfectly and he was facing someone like Warren, but it'd still be an iffy proposition. Now that I'm in Illinois I have no qualms about voting L for POTUS even if a relative buffoon like Johnson is nominated, the only Republican I can see myself voting for in the future would be Rand but one would think he wouldn't even try for POTUS until 2024. Locally I'll probably lean towards the GOP, but more often than not it'll be write-in candidates since I live in the 5th bluest district in the nation (perfect counter-example to Owl...) and I doubt they run many Republicans around here.
I'm intrigued why one's vote would be determined geography. Please elaborate. And I am a Florida resident.

Because in Florida, a presidential vote might matter. In Illinois, or in Texas where I am, the result is preordained by such a margin that it doesn't matter. Even if a republican carries Illinois, or a democrat carries Texas, then the election is such a landslide that it really doesn't matter.
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(01-12-2018 06:31 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(01-12-2018 06:28 PM)NewTimes Wrote:  
(01-12-2018 06:17 PM)Love and Honor Wrote:  If I still lived in Florida I'd maaaaaybe consider voting for Trump if the next two and a half years went perfectly and he was facing someone like Warren, but it'd still be an iffy proposition. Now that I'm in Illinois I have no qualms about voting L for POTUS even if a relative buffoon like Johnson is nominated, the only Republican I can see myself voting for in the future would be Rand but one would think he wouldn't even try for POTUS until 2024. Locally I'll probably lean towards the GOP, but more often than not it'll be write-in candidates since I live in the 5th bluest district in the nation (perfect counter-example to Owl...) and I doubt they run many Republicans around here.
I'm intrigued why one's vote would be determined geography. Please elaborate. And I am a Florida resident.

Because in Florida, a presidential vote might matter. In Illinois, or in Texas where I am, the result is preordained by such a margin that it doesn't matter. Even if a republican carries Illinois, or a democrat carries Texas, then the election is such a landslide that it really doesn't matter.
I relocated from Virginia to Florida almost a year ago. Senator Mark Warner just squeaked by the republican candidate in his election a few years ago. True that NVA has the political muscle and numbers in the state and has the liberal slant. But Roanoke a conservative city, and Lynchburg a very conservative city, both voted Democrat in the November gubernatorial election. These cities had a strong conservative base that shifted, and they are as antithesis to NVA as it comes. There likely is a changing of the mindset nationally. Not just in Virginia or Alabama.
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RE: Poll - What party do you expect to vote for in 2020?
(01-12-2018 06:28 PM)NewTimes Wrote:  
(01-12-2018 06:17 PM)Love and Honor Wrote:  If I still lived in Florida I'd maaaaaybe consider voting for Trump if the next two and a half years went perfectly and he was facing someone like Warren, but it'd still be an iffy proposition. Now that I'm in Illinois I have no qualms about voting L for POTUS even if a relative buffoon like Johnson is nominated, the only Republican I can see myself voting for in the future would be Rand but one would think he wouldn't even try for POTUS until 2024. Locally I'll probably lean towards the GOP, but more often than not it'll be write-in candidates since I live in the 5th bluest district in the nation (perfect counter-example to Owl...) and I doubt they run many Republicans around here.

I'm intrigued why one's vote would be determined geography. Please elaborate. And I am a Florida resident.

Because the I-4 corridor is perhaps the single most important electoral zone in the United States and I lived right on it. If the 2016 election had been say, Kasich against Hillary, I wouldn't be so hot about the former but I may have been inclined to vote for him in Florida as a vote against her (and I seldom vote to keep someone else from winning) because I didn't find him to be evil, I wasn't a huge fan of Johnson, and your vote can legitimately matter in the Sunshine State. In the Land of Lincoln that last point is not the case.

At the end of the day no vote is certain, even if it's a pretty good guess that the winner of my congressional race in 2028 will be a Democrat unless I'm redistricted. No one thought a year ago that a Democrat could win the Alabama senate seat since extreme circumstances during a campaign are always possible. So can a Republican win Illinois in 2020? Sure, if there's another Great Chicago Fire that forces all the residents of the west and south sides of the city to move to Wisconsin and Indiana, the Democratic nominee dies two days before the election, a bunch of voters downstate clone themselves, and a few priests commit a blood sacrifice to Ra. But in short it ain't happening, at least Virginia was purple not too long ago.
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