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Are the Germans losing their edge?
https://www.wsj.com/articles/german-engi...1515753000

Quote:Germany’s naval brass in 2005 dreamed up a warship that could ferry marines into combat anywhere in the world, go up against enemy ships and stay away from home ports for two years with a crew half the size of its predecessor’s.

First delivered for sea trials in 2016 after a series of delays, the 7,000-ton Baden-Württemberg frigate was determined last month to have an unexpected design flaw: It doesn’t really work.

Defense experts cite the warship’s buggy software and ill-considered arsenal—as well as what was until recently its noticeable list to starboard—as symptoms of deeper, more intractable problems: Shrinking military expertise and growing confusion among German leaders about what the country’s armed forces are for.

A litany of bungled infrastructure projects has tarred Germany’s reputation for engineering prowess. There is still no opening date for Berlin’s new €6 billion ($7.2 billion) airport, which is already 10 years behind schedule, and the redesign of Stuttgart’s railway station remains stalled more than a decade after work on the project started. Observers have blamed these mishaps on poor planning and project management, which also figured in major setbacks for several big military projects.
01-12-2018 12:34 PM
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(01-12-2018 12:34 PM)miko33 Wrote:  https://www.wsj.com/articles/german-engi...1515753000

Quote:Germany’s naval brass in 2005 dreamed up a warship that could ferry marines into combat anywhere in the world, go up against enemy ships and stay away from home ports for two years with a crew half the size of its predecessor’s.

First delivered for sea trials in 2016 after a series of delays, the 7,000-ton Baden-Württemberg frigate was determined last month to have an unexpected design flaw: It doesn’t really work.

Defense experts cite the warship’s buggy software and ill-considered arsenal—as well as what was until recently its noticeable list to starboard—as symptoms of deeper, more intractable problems: Shrinking military expertise and growing confusion among German leaders about what the country’s armed forces are for.

A litany of bungled infrastructure projects has tarred Germany’s reputation for engineering prowess. There is still no opening date for Berlin’s new €6 billion ($7.2 billion) airport, which is already 10 years behind schedule, and the redesign of Stuttgart’s railway station remains stalled more than a decade after work on the project started. Observers have blamed these mishaps on poor planning and project management, which also figured in major setbacks for several big military projects.

The German Navy returned the first ship back to the builder. That is a big deal and almost never happens.
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As long as it can ferry into Germany thousands of isis refugee children disguised as 25 year old men, then Merkle will be happy with it.
01-12-2018 12:40 PM
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I am curious why Germany needed naval force projection to deliver marines to foreign beaches, but whatevs.......
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(01-12-2018 12:39 PM)UofMTigerTim Wrote:  The German Navy returned the first ship back to the builder. That is a big deal and almost never happens.

Yes, we accepted the Gerald Ford aircraft carrier even though a few things on it don't work the way they are supposed to work--like the catapults and the arresting gear.
01-12-2018 01:20 PM
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(01-12-2018 12:48 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  I am curious why Germany needed naval force projection to deliver marines to foreign beaches, but whatevs.......

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(01-12-2018 12:48 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  I am curious why Germany needed naval force projection to deliver marines to foreign beaches, but whatevs.......

Storming beaches to repatriate foreign nationals.
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German engineering prowess is more the result of a a quasi-marketing campaign than anything based in fact.
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(01-12-2018 03:06 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  German engineering prowess is more the result of a a quasi-marketing campaign than anything based in fact.

Yeah, I have to completely disagree with that. I'm not talking consumer goods, but the machinery used to build other machinery, where precision is paramount.
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(01-12-2018 03:38 PM)banker Wrote:  
(01-12-2018 03:06 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  German engineering prowess is more the result of a a quasi-marketing campaign than anything based in fact.

Yeah, I have to completely disagree with that. I'm not talking consumer goods, but the machinery used to build other machinery, where precision is paramount.

Yea, I'm gonna have to stand by that. The heavy machinery I'm most familiar with, used in the oil and gas industry, from the rock busting to the very fine isn't German.

And, when it comes to other forms of engineering, outside manufacturing, the Germans are not kings nor are they always in the conversation.
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