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(01-12-2018 10:49 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  If one good thing can be said about Trump, it's that he has made it acceptable for people like you to be honest about why exactly they want immigration reform.

You're the one who compared colonial invasion to immigration...
01-12-2018 11:13 AM
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WTF is this thread? And this is coming from a brown person. Plot twist, I am Hispanic and I support Trump. 07-coffee3
01-12-2018 11:14 AM
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(01-12-2018 10:47 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  
(01-12-2018 10:44 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  Most of our ancestors actually came to this country the same way the so called "illegals" came into this country.

1. They came uninvited

2. They didn't learn the language.

3. They did not assimilate.

You forgot #4. They came here legally.

NO they didn't. Just because their was no law in the books somewhere doesn't make it legal.

I suppose you think it was legal for them to murder Native Americans and rape the women as well since there was likely no law against it.
01-12-2018 11:15 AM
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(01-12-2018 11:12 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(01-12-2018 11:10 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  
(01-12-2018 10:51 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Was it a salient point though? I don't believe they were talking about basic immigration issues, but rather bringing in folks from other countries who are escaping horrific situations, like natural disasters and political strife.

American citizenship is not some sort of global right. We owe nothing to people escaping horrific situations, whether Norweigan or Haitian or anyone in-between, except an opportunity to legally immigrate to this country via our rules, our regulations, and our determination of quota or exclusions for certain countries.

Again, I don't think they were talking about citizenship were they? I thought it was more like temporary status stuff. Which I believe is escaping things like natural disasters, political strife, civil wars, etc.

I'm sorry all we know is he used mean language, nobody knows the specifics of what was said and you're operating from your own bias here.
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So in the canon of American progressivism (BTW, Fit isn't the only person that seems to think this), this is the event that solidifies Trump's racist creds. I thought Charlottesville proved he was a white nationalist?

I think people seem to have more a problem with the term "****hole country" than they do of Trump saying we don't want immigrants from certain places.
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01-12-2018 11:16 AM
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(01-12-2018 11:13 AM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  
(01-12-2018 10:49 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  If one good thing can be said about Trump, it's that he has made it acceptable for people like you to be honest about why exactly they want immigration reform.

You're the one who compared colonial invasion to immigration...

Which do you think is worse? Immigration or invasion?
01-12-2018 11:17 AM
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(01-12-2018 11:14 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  WTF is this thread? And this is coming from a brown person. Plot twist, I am Hispanic and I support Trump. 07-coffee3

I've think I've told you this before but one of my best friends parents legally immigrated from Mexico and he thinks Mexico is a shithole and a huge Trump supporter. It's usually wussy pajama boys that spout of their nonsensical indoctrination.
01-12-2018 11:18 AM
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(01-12-2018 10:33 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  President Trump is a racist.

This isn't news to anyone. Everyone on this forum knows it. Some people don't care.

But let's call a spade a spade.

People are going to be on this forum all day trying to deflect, point the finger at other people and say things like. " But Hillary this" and "but Obama that".


Let's not pretend anymore. The man's immigration policy comes from a personal hatred of the browning of America.

Please define for the the term I just bolded. Just what is a "spade"??

I guess I find it a bit ironic that you would use what MANY would term as a racist saying - and you aren't part of the group that would howl so you're not off the hook that way.

Now, because I'm not looking for something offensive under every rock and on every word, I really don't care - but a guarantee you there are people that would accuse you of being racist while saying someone else is racist just by what you typed in the bold above.......

Care to defend yourself?
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(01-12-2018 11:15 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  I suppose you think it was legal for them to murder Native Americans and rape the women as well since there was likely no law against it.

As legal as it was for the native Americans to rape and kill each other before the white people even set foot in the Americas.

You're comparing an invasion to immigration. It's a silly argument to make.

Because the English destroyed my peoples culture I am not bestowed a right to destroy theirs.
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(01-12-2018 10:50 AM)GrayBeard Wrote:  
(01-12-2018 10:49 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(01-12-2018 10:46 AM)GrayBeard Wrote:  
(01-12-2018 10:44 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(01-12-2018 10:39 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  Trump and his supporters have always supported letting people into this country the same way most of our ancestors, from all countries, came here; Legally. With the full expectation that they would assimilate into American culture – learning the language, the history, and what made this country important.

If that makes me racist, I think you don't understand what racist means.

Most of our ancestors actually came to this country the same way the so called "illegals" came into this country.

1. They came uninvited

2. They didn't learn the language.

3. They did not assimilate.


You see, that is the problem with Trump and his supporters. They are a group of ignorant people who don't know the history of this continent so they make ignorant comments.

That is great, but those people, our ancestors also did the following...

4. They conquered the land.

See, if you allow 1, 2, & 3, you are setting yourself up for #4. That is what we need to avoid.

I appreciate your honesty.

If one good thing can be said about Trump, it's that he has made it acceptable for people like you to be honest about why exactly they want immigration reform.

People like me? Please explain more about people like me.

Still waiting...step up boy and explain your comment.
01-12-2018 11:20 AM
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