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Exclamation Gus Malzahn wants 8-team playoff
"I think (eight teams is) where it's going," Malzahn said. "We'll see what happens, but I'd personally like to see it."


http://www.al.com/auburnfootball/index.s...r_home_pop

It looks like the 8 team playoff is on the way.
01-11-2018 10:07 AM
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RE: Gus Malzahn wants 8-team playoff
If we had 8 this year, the committee would have ranked UCF at # 9. It's rigged now and will be rigged at 8.
01-11-2018 10:10 AM
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RE: Gus Malzahn wants 8-team playoff
(01-11-2018 10:10 AM)eltigre Wrote:  If we had 8 this year, the committee would have ranked UCF at # 9. It's rigged now and will be rigged at 8.

This. There needs to be a G5 guarantee* if they go to 8.

* with condition that undefeated G5 gets an automatic bid. If they have one loss or more can still gain bid if they are ranked in the top 8 by the playoff committee.
01-11-2018 10:14 AM
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(01-11-2018 10:10 AM)eltigre Wrote:  If we had 8 this year, the committee would have ranked UCF at # 9. It's rigged now and will be rigged at 8.

I disagree. We would have seen UCF in the playoff with Auburn and Ohio State.

I think it would remain that way for quite awhile with autobids to the P5 Conference Champs. Then the highest ranking G5 Conference Champs with the playoff committee determining the last two participants
01-11-2018 10:17 AM
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RE: Gus Malzahn wants 8-team playoff
Auto-bids are a fantasy.

I agree with the sentiment that the 8 will be massaged to make sure they receive the highest ratings.

Then again, I said that same thing about going to 4.

No matter how many teams you expand to you will always have the people outside looking in and complaining.
01-11-2018 10:26 AM
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RE: Gus Malzahn wants 8-team playoff
(01-11-2018 10:26 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Auto-bids are a fantasy.

I agree with the sentiment that the 8 will be massaged to make sure they receive the highest ratings.

Then again, I said that same thing about going to 4.

No matter how many teams you expand to you will always have the people outside looking in and complaining.

That will be most likely happen even though PAC and Big 10 commissioners have stated that any expansion will be only accepted by auto-bids.
But if the P5 champs are 'massaged' in the rankings then they for the majority of the time will be ranked in the top 8.

The Final CFP ranking had USC at #8 so yeah...all the P5 champs will be in there 19 of 20 times and that may be enough for Larry Scott to be on board for expansion without auto-bids.

They'll stick with the best 8 but it would at least be a lower and more manageable threshold for the G5 conference to achieve a #8 ranking.
01-11-2018 10:43 AM
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RE: Gus Malzahn wants 8-team playoff
Strongly, strongly opposed and think very small chance we do not finish out the 12 year contract.

With that said, if we get 8 teams at some point, I think people are looking at the Group of 5 spot wrong. People are arguing for and against a guarenteed spot, but I think there will be something in the middle. The most likely outcome in my view would be they would have the highest Group of 5 champion (or possibly independent) in if they are either ranked above a power 5 conference champ or are in top 12/14. That's basically what the BCS did, and I think would be similar here. They are not going to put the Group of 5 champ in if they are a 2 loss team barely in the top 25 (like Boise State the first year of the CFP).

There's also the question of how they deal with independents and I have not seen a lot of talk on that. If the Group of 5 and Power 5 conferences have a spot they can get, while not being in the top 8, then independents would be the only teams without that possibility and, if fact, would probably have to make top 5/6 or so most years to account for other teams below them getting in. Notre Dame is going to either push hard for no auto-bids at all (so they can get in at #8) or want to be included in one. While appeasing Notre Dame is not absolutely necessary, they have a seat at the table here and contrary to popular belief, the rest the conferences really are not pushing the Irish into a conference (outside their own, they would rather Notre Dame be independent than play in a rival conference). I see three ways they could handle this.

1. Independents are guarenteed a spot in if in top 8. The logic here is that independents cannot win or lose a conference and thus if they are in the top 8 (the teams that would be in if we ignored conference championships), they should be in. Unlike others, they could neither get in ranked less than 8 and never be left out if in the top 8.

2. Independents and Group of 5 share a spot. They might or might not have the same rules for getting it (maybe independents have to be in top 10 to take, while Group of 5 could be top 14).

3. No compromise from the other powers and independents treated as just an at large. Mostly likely, especially if highest Group of 5 champ given a way in, this would effectively mean independents would probably have to be in the top 6 or so most years to get in. I don't really think this would push the Irish anywhere, but they would push against it strongly.
01-11-2018 10:49 AM
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RE: Gus Malzahn wants 8-team playoff
(01-11-2018 10:07 AM)FloridaJag Wrote:  "I think (eight teams is) where it's going," Malzahn said. "We'll see what happens, but I'd personally like to see it."


http://www.al.com/auburnfootball/index.s...r_home_pop

It looks like the 8 team playoff is on the way.

Not necessarily.

http://www.espn.com/college-football/sto...-teams-now

I doubt that the committee will pull an E.F. Hutton when Gus speaks.

If (and that's a big IF) it expands, it won't be until the next round of conference contracts are signed (2024-25).
01-11-2018 10:52 AM
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RE: Gus Malzahn wants 8-team playoff
As for myself, I think we finish out the contract and hope we see no changes. If there is change, I think people are under-estimating the chance at 5/6 with no auto-bids (if we get to 8, there will be auto-bids). They are going to be very protective of the regular season and 8 would be a lot bigger change.

Edit: Last point, coach speak means about nothing. They have no power here, just like in realignment. The people with all the power here are a level (AD) or two (president) above them.
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01-11-2018 10:53 AM
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RE: Gus Malzahn wants 8-team playoff
(01-11-2018 10:14 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  
(01-11-2018 10:10 AM)eltigre Wrote:  If we had 8 this year, the committee would have ranked UCF at # 9. It's rigged now and will be rigged at 8.

This. There needs to be a G5 guarantee* if they go to 8.

* with condition that undefeated G5 gets an automatic bid. If they have one loss or more can still gain bid if they are ranked in the top 8 by the playoff committee.

Absolutely not.

If you think the weeping and gnashing of teeth is bad now, just wait until you have a couple of the little 5 "champs" all laying claim to being the best of the rest. It might have been clear cut THIS YEAR, but not so much in others.
01-11-2018 10:55 AM
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